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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 12:41 AM
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yeah so after reading some posts i decided to get rid of my stock bulbs and put in phillips blue visions cause people were saying they were equal to PIAA hyperwhites, so i got the bulbs and put them in then i compared them to my friend bulbs and his make my phillips bulbs look totally yellow... damnit so now i have to get new ones, and his were some cheap ones too i cant remember what brand but thier hyperwhite not blueish
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Originally posted by IIOO7II
yeah so after reading some posts i decided to get rid of my stock bulbs and put in phillips blue visions cause people were saying they were equal to PIAA hyperwhites, so i got the bulbs and put them in then i compared them to my friend bulbs and his make my phillips bulbs look totally yellow... damnit so now i have to get new ones, and his were some cheap ones too i cant remember what brand but thier hyperwhite not blueish
I don't think they are at all supposed to be equal to the PIAAs in color, I got them because peoples' tests proved them to be brighter than the stockers without sacrificing much brightness to a blue tint. PIAAs for looks, Philips for vision.
Old Aug 5, 2001 | 03:00 AM
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Thats prob cus its 9004>

The Philips Blue Vision 9004, 9005, 9006 are quite different from the H4, H1, H7, H3 versions.. the 9000 series are made in Korea and use ordinary glass, and have a yellower hue to pass DOT approval. The H series are made in Germany, made from quartz glass and are produce a bluer light.
Old Aug 5, 2001 | 06:11 AM
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Re: Thats prob cus its 9004>

My phillips 9004 seem a bit better than OEM. If your looking for blue light; not the way to go.
Old Aug 5, 2001 | 09:57 AM
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Re: Re: Thats prob cus its 9004>

Agreed. I put the Philips in to see the road better, not to have people say, "Cool lights, dude."

Originally posted by NickStam
My phillips 9004 seem a bit better than OEM. If your looking for blue light; not the way to go.
Old Aug 6, 2001 | 03:41 PM
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Blue Visions

Originally posted by IIOO7II
yeah so after reading some posts i decided to get rid of my stock bulbs and put in phillips blue visions cause people were saying they were equal to PIAA hyperwhites, so i got the bulbs and put them in then i compared them to my friend bulbs and his make my phillips bulbs look totally yellow... damnit so now i have to get new ones, and his were some cheap ones too i cant remember what brand but thier hyperwhite not blueish
I installed Philips Blues. They are brighter that stock. Also, the pattern seems larger. Maybe it's because of the brighter light. I left one stock and one Philips. To see the difference. I bounced the light off my garage door. The Philips are definately better that stock.
Old Aug 6, 2001 | 05:14 PM
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I have Vision hyperwhite/xenon bulbs. They are pretty blue and look really nice. I got them from a local shop for about $40. Oh yeah...and a peice of advice, do not get any cheap xenon bulbs off ebay, i did it and it burned up my harnesses and had to pay alot of $$$ to get them replaced. Not worth it.
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really blue and good looks doesn't mean good for visibility.
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Originally posted by NickStam
really blue and good looks doesn't mean good for visibility.
To those who are intrested in Philips Blue vision! I can sell you a pair for $10 bucks. E-Mail me if intrested.
Old Aug 7, 2001 | 02:30 PM
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Phillips "Yellow" Visions

Originally posted by IIOO7II
yeah so after reading some posts i decided to get rid of my stock bulbs and put in phillips blue visions cause people were saying they were equal to PIAA hyperwhites, so i got the bulbs and put them in then i compared them to my friend bulbs and his make my phillips bulbs look totally yellow... damnit so now i have to get new ones, and his were some cheap ones too i cant remember what brand but thier hyperwhite not blueish
Yeah, I did buy the Phillips Blue Visions to have whitish/bluish lights. I wanted to get all of my front lights that color.

Seeing that there name is ""BLUE"" visions, i thought they would have a slight resemblance to blue. But, recalling my memory from 5th grade art class, blue is quite a ways from yellow on the color spectrum.
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Originally posted by IIOO7II
yeah so after reading some posts i decided to get rid of my stock bulbs and put in phillips blue visions cause people were saying they were equal to PIAA hyperwhites, so i got the bulbs and put them in then i compared them to my friend bulbs and his make my phillips bulbs look totally yellow... damnit so now i have to get new ones, and his were some cheap ones too i cant remember what brand but thier hyperwhite not blueish
Questions:

1) What car does your friend drive?
2) Which bulbs does he use? (i.e. 9004, 9005, 9007, H3, H7)
3) Blue Visions are deceptive in title only. They have been proven by Shing to look the same if not better than the PIAA Superwhites. THIS APPLIES TO 9004 SERIES BULBS ONLY.
4) If you wanted blue bulbs for looks and not function, ANY Phillips bulb is a very bad choice. PIAA is too for that matter.

I would cite some links, etc., that further proves this but I'm not bothering since you want non-functional and glaring blue bulbs. I hope you are satisfied with your next bulb purchase.
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Re: Phillips "Yellow" Visions

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Yeah, I did buy the Phillips Blue Visions to have whitish/bluish lights. I wanted to get all of my front lights that color.

Seeing that there name is ""BLUE"" visions, i thought they would have a slight resemblance to blue. But, recalling my memory from 5th grade art class, blue is quite a ways from yellow on the color spectrum.
Someone please post a pic of their Blue Visions being yellow. I would love to see what this definition of yellow is.

Furthermore, an ounce worth of research here would find countless admissions from myself and others that these are WHITE; not blue, not yellow, but WHITE.
Old Aug 7, 2001 | 03:50 PM
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Re: Re: Phillips "Yellow" Visions

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Someone please post a pic of their Blue Visions being yellow. I would love to see what this definition of yellow is.

Furthermore, an ounce worth of research here would find countless admissions from myself and others that these are WHITE; not blue, not yellow, but WHITE.
They are white, but not clear white, they look just like stock, they are brighter, but these kind of lights don't add anything to the appearance.
Old Aug 7, 2001 | 06:57 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Phillips "Yellow" Visions

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They are white, but not clear white, they look just like stock, they are brighter, but these kind of lights don't add anything to the appearance.
They aren't suppost to add any "appearance" and I think Phillips had that in mind from the start. They are just whiter than the stock bulbs, but by no means blue, to improve your night vision. If the original poster looked into these bulbs more or even looked at the thickness of the coating on the bulbs, he would have realized this before he purchased these bulbs thinking they would be "rice blue" like the ones his friend has.
Old Aug 7, 2001 | 07:38 PM
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If you want the look and still able to see-->

Get the apc wiring harness and run $9.99 80w/100w Xenon 9004 from JC Whitney. Looks hyperwhite and I can still see the roads in the rain. I had mine for 2 year and one recently burned out. I put in some Hyper Industries and 30 seconds later the bulb blew up in half. Damn thing left tons of white dust I still couldn't get them out to this day.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Phillips "Yellow" Visions

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They aren't suppost to add any "appearance" and I think Phillips had that in mind from the start. They are just whiter than the stock bulbs, but by no means blue, to improve your night vision. If the original poster looked into these bulbs more or even looked at the thickness of the coating on the bulbs, he would have realized this before he purchased these bulbs thinking they would be "rice blue" like the ones his friend has.
Well, when phillips put the name blue in their title of their bulb, that suggests that it will change the appearance. I am sorry, i do not have much experience looking at the thickness of the glass on the bulbs to tell what color they are. I don't know how you picked up these neat little piece of information, but i would rather not waste my time asking. And if you want to call blue/white bulbs ricey, yeah, thats just what the BMWs, mercedes, and lexuses are made by, little rice boys. No, blue bulbs are definitely not ricey as you say they are.
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well, personally i like the phillips bv headlights and fogs..


they are brighter than oem
Old Aug 8, 2001 | 01:29 PM
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This has got to be one of the funniest things I've read in a while.

"But... but... but... but... look right here... it says they're blue!"



And as for BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus, ever heard of "HID"s?

Blue bulbs = rice

Blue bulbs advertised as "close to HID" = rice

Did you read the Philips BV packaging?

"New BlueVision Halogen headlamp replacements bulbs are ideal for driving at night. The daylight white light stimulates driver concentration and makes night-time driving less tiring" (emphasis mine)

Nowhere does it mention that the light the Philips BV produces is blue. Infact, it tells you that the light that is produced is white.

Originally posted by 97MaximaSE-L
Well, when phillips put the name blue in their title of their bulb, that suggests that it will change the appearance. I am sorry, i do not have much experience looking at the thickness of the glass on the bulbs to tell what color they are. I don't know how you picked up these neat little piece of information, but i would rather not waste my time asking. And if you want to call blue/white bulbs ricey, yeah, thats just what the BMWs, mercedes, and lexuses are made by, little rice boys. No, blue bulbs are definitely not ricey as you say they are.
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I am not ricey, i don't even like chinese food

In my opinion, which happens to be the only thing that matters to me, bluish bulbs are not ricey. I am not a ****ing idiot, i know that all the european cars don't drive around with blue bulbs in their cars, but they all have HID. I am sorry, i am not willing to shell out a few thousand dollars to buy a HID kit. I just wanted my bulbs to not look like everyone elses, is that a crime, why do you do other things to your car, to make them look like everyone elses, no i doubt it, you do things to make them look different, and you do things that you think look good. So, thats the end of the story, the bottom line, is that it is Phillips fault in the first place for naming their bulbs blue visions. Okay, every one agreed. And talking about ricey, you guys are the ones ganging up on me like a bunch of little rice boys.
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Re: I am not ricey, i don't even like chinese food

Originally posted by 97MaximaSE-L
In my opinion, which happens to be the only thing that matters to me, bluish bulbs are not ricey. I am not a ****ing idiot, i know that all the european cars don't drive around with blue bulbs in their cars, but they all have HID. I am sorry, i am not willing to shell out a few thousand dollars to buy a HID kit. I just wanted my bulbs to not look like everyone elses, is that a crime, why do you do other things to your car, to make them look like everyone elses, no i doubt it, you do things to make them look different, and you do things that you think look good. So, thats the end of the story, the bottom line, is that it is Phillips fault in the first place for naming their bulbs blue visions. Okay, every one agreed. And talking about ricey, you guys are the ones ganging up on me like a bunch of little rice boys.
touchy touchy...


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Old Aug 8, 2001 | 01:58 PM
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Re: I am not ricey, i don't even like chinese food

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Oh man ... I shouldn't really be doing this ... I really have work to do.
[/side note]

Originally posted by 97MaximaSE-L
In my opinion, which happens to be the only thing that matters to me, bluish bulbs are not ricey. I am not a ****ing idiot, i know that all the european cars don't drive around with blue bulbs in their cars, but they all have HID. I am sorry, i am not willing to shell out a few thousand dollars to buy a HID kit.
European cars don't drive around with blue bulbs? That's not what you said in your previous post. And I quote, "And if you want to call blue/white bulbs ricey, yeah, thats just what the BMWs, mercedes, and lexuses are made by, little rice boys. No, blue bulbs are definitely not ricey as you say they are." This sentence looks like you think the bulbs in the BMWs, Mercedes, and Lexus have blue bulbs. And an HID kit doesn't cost a few thonsand dollars. It costs approximately $500.

I just wanted my bulbs to not look like everyone elses, is that a crime, why do you do other things to your car, to make them look like everyone elses, no i doubt it, you do things to make them look different, and you do things that you think look good.
You don't want to look like everyone else. No, that's not a crime. But blue bulbs are everywhere. All those little riceboys who put in blue bulbs cause they want to look like they have HIDs. You want your bulbs to not look like everyone elses? Put the Phlips BV's back in. Cause then you won't have that, "Look, I have blue bulbs, so that must mean I can see just like a car with HIDs!" look on your car.

So, thats the end of the story, the bottom line, is that it is Phillips fault in the first place for naming their bulbs blue visions. Okay, every one agreed. And talking about ricey, you guys are the ones ganging up on me like a bunch of little rice boys.
It's Philip's fault for naming their bulbs "BlueVisions"! Thanks for the laugh, pal. Let's say Philips comes out with a brand new headlight bulb and names then, "BlackVisions" (for whatever reason). And people do some tests and finds out that they are extremly better than stock. You wouldn't get them because you think they produce a black light?

I can't believe it has come to this point in our country. Read the package next time. And not just what you want to see either. "It's says BLUE!"
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Originally posted by redmaxpa007


touchy touchy...


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I am not getting mad. I am just a thickheaded bastard who doesn't like giving in, and I like to create a little drama once in awhile.

No hard feelings guys. Didn't mean to seem angry at ya.

You're actually right, if i would have read the package, it says white light, but i swear some guy posted that the blue visions where better than the PIAAs for bluish tint. Have a nice evening guys.
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i had this big long post, of all these things that i wanted to say after reading your post, but i will refrain, since it will get me no where, and this is retarded arguing about something as small as this.

I will say no more. Promise.
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Re: Re: I am not ricey, i don't even like chinese food

Originally posted by clee130
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European cars don't drive around with blue bulbs? That's not what you said in your previous post. And I quote, "And if you want to call blue/white bulbs ricey, yeah, thats just what the BMWs, mercedes, and lexuses are made by, little rice boys. No, blue bulbs are definitely not ricey as you say they are." This sentence looks like you think the bulbs in the BMWs, Mercedes, and Lexus have blue bulbs. And an HID kit doesn't cost a few thonsand dollars. It costs approximately $500.



You don't want to look like everyone else. No, that's not a crime. But blue bulbs are everywhere. All those little riceboys who put in blue bulbs cause they want to look like they have HIDs. You want your bulbs to not look like everyone elses? Put the Phlips BV's back in. Cause then you won't have that, "Look, I have blue bulbs, so that must mean I can see just like a car with HIDs!" look on your car.



It's Philip's fault for naming their bulbs "BlueVisions"! Thanks for the laugh, pal. Let's say Philips comes out with a brand new headlight bulb and names then, "BlackVisions" (for whatever reason). And people do some tests and finds out that they are extremly better than stock. You wouldn't get them because you think they produce a black light?

I can't believe it has come to this point in our country. Read the package next time. And not just what you want to see either. "It's says BLUE!"

Wow......now this is true evil moderator style......:vampire:
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Cool ... so does this mean I can have your job now?

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Old Aug 8, 2001 | 06:27 PM
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Cool ... so does this mean I can have your job now?


ouu...ouu

i am next to be a moderator...


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Old Aug 9, 2001 | 01:54 AM
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well hot d_amn i didnt mean to start all this

Originally posted by IIOO7II
yeah so after reading some posts i decided to get rid of my stock bulbs and put in phillips blue visions cause people were saying they were equal to PIAA hyperwhites, so i got the bulbs and put them in then i compared them to my friend bulbs and his make my phillips bulbs look totally yellow... damnit so now i have to get new ones, and his were some cheap ones too i cant remember what brand but thier hyperwhite not blueish
All i wanted was pure white bulbs... like i said nowhere did i mention that i wanted blueish tinted lights
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Originally posted by IIOO7II
yeah so after reading some posts i decided to get rid of my stock bulbs and put in phillips blue visions cause people were saying they were equal to PIAA hyperwhites, so i got the bulbs and put them in then i compared them to my friend bulbs and his make my phillips bulbs look totally yellow... damnit so now i have to get new ones, and his were some cheap ones too i cant remember what brand but thier hyperwhite not blueish
I got some of the fake HID bulbs too and put my Cool Blues back in because I couldn't see a thing on the road. My forgs were brighter. My friend put some bulbs in his Caddie and they are White, no yellow to be seen. I'll try to get the name of them. He keeps telling me he wants the PIAA's though because they are brighter.
Old Aug 9, 2001 | 06:06 AM
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$10 for Philips Blue Visions?

Originally posted by 190hpKiLLA


To those who are intrested in Philips Blue vision! I can sell you a pair for $10 bucks. E-Mail me if intrested.
Interesting seeing as how K-Mart has them for $9.88ea. I'm not seeing the savings here.
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Originally posted by clee130
This has got to be one of the funniest things I've read in a while.

"But... but... but... but... look right here... it says they're blue!"



And as for BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus, ever heard of "HID"s?

Blue bulbs = rice

Blue bulbs advertised as "close to HID" = rice

Did you read the Philips BV packaging?

"New BlueVision Halogen headlamp replacements bulbs are ideal for driving at night. The daylight white light stimulates driver concentration and makes night-time driving less tiring" (emphasis mine)

Nowhere does it mention that the light the Philips BV produces is blue. Infact, it tells you that the light that is produced is white.

Good post Clee!

Just to add a little bit of light color theory here. White is perceptual to our eyes. We view light reflected off of objects which transmit the color of the object to our eye/brain. We interpret this as the color we think it should be based on our knowledge of what the object should be colored.

I know this sounds strange but it's the way we perceive color. There is a range of light color. Different light sources provide us with different "colors" of light.

I'll give you three examples of light color that you see everyday and how we "perceive" the color of an object illuminated by these light sources.

Yes, I will get back to the Philips "Blue" Visions after I explain this so you all understand what's going on.

Everyday we experience typically three types of light sources, Incandescent (tungsten light bulbs) typically in the home, Flourescent typically in the workplace and daylight which is typically outside. <grin>

Incandenscent light is yellow in color. Flourescent light is green in color. Daylight is blue in color. If you have a piece of white paper lit with any of these types of light, you will "perceive" it to be white (which it is) but the reflected light is actually yellow, green or blue based on your light source.

If you've ever used a video camera without auto white-balance on and shot something in these light conditions, you would easily see these colors. These are all based on light waves and color temperature theory.

So, what we're seeing is a light by Philips called "Blue Vision" because they output light in the color spectrum (blue) of daylight. In reality, these ARE blueish as is daylight. Your mind, however, perceives these to be white.

They are not misnamed. If you want true blue tinted lights that are not daylight white, then you are looking for lights that go far beyond normal lighting and are actually colored.

As Bill previously posted, these might be for looks only and probably will result in less light output and probably be worse for night driving. It means you are only getting them so that people see your blue bulbs in oncoming traffic and so you can say you are cool because you have fake HID's or you want to look different.

That's fine. Just don't confuse the very blue look with BlueVision HyperWhites (matched for daylight) or better visibility at night.

Next time before some of you bash a product, maybe you should consider doing a little research and understand the product.
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Re: $10 for Philips Blue Visions?

Originally posted by bobl


Interesting seeing as how K-Mart has them for $9.88ea. I'm not seeing the savings here.

he was selling a PAIR... (that means two...)

and you say they are 9.88 + tax.. EACH


so... i say that is a savings of....umm...$10...
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Re: Re: $10 for Philips Blue Visions?

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he was selling a PAIR... (that means two...)

and you say they are 9.88 + tax.. EACH


so... i say that is a savings of....umm...$10...
DOH! I missed the "pair" reference! I refer to the following smilie ->
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Re: Re: Re: $10 for Philips Blue Visions?

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DOH! I missed the "pair" reference! I refer to the following smilie ->

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Originally posted by bobl
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That's fine. Just don't confuse the very blue look with BlueVision HyperWhites (matched for daylight) or better visibility at night.

Next time before some of you bash a product, maybe you should consider doing a little research and understand the product.
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D_AMNIT KIDS

all i wanted was a bright white light, NOT BLUE, and from what i read bluevisions were that, but they are not as white as i was expecting them to be thats all there still actually slightly yellow... so in the end, i got white lights... and i'm happy

does anybody know what bluevisions are on the kelvin scale??
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