Cone Filters / Pop Chargers
08-17-2001, 09:41 AM
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Are cone filters and pop chargers the same? I read on previous threads that you lose low end hp when you install one of these items, but gain top end hp.
For someone with no engine mods and a auto tranny. Do you people recommend this mod?
For someone with no engine mods and a auto tranny. Do you people recommend this mod?
08-17-2001, 09:59 AM
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I have no other engine mods except for a cone filter, I didnt notice any loss in torque or power, but I noticed no gains in torque or power either. It just sounds awesome, I can actually hear the engine now...
08-17-2001, 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by clee130
The JWT popcgharger was the first mod I did.
There is a small loss in low end torque. But you can feel the power in high end. At least I do.
Got an automagic too.
The JWT popcgharger was the first mod I did.
There is a small loss in low end torque. But you can feel the power in high end. At least I do.
Got an automagic too.
08-19-2001, 09:20 PM
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To Do or Not.
Originally posted by clee130
The JWT popcgharger was the first mod I did.
There is a small loss in low end torque. But you can feel the power in high end. At least I do.
Got an automagic too.
The JWT popcgharger was the first mod I did.
There is a small loss in low end torque. But you can feel the power in high end. At least I do.
Got an automagic too.
08-19-2001, 09:28 PM
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well, I was the one a long time ago who posted a thread about why I took my JWT intake off.
Pretend you have a low-rpm torque level of 10. With the JWT, you probably get a 6. There is some loss, but nothing too bad.
I removed my JWT cone though because one of the main reasons I love my Maxima (auto) so much was for it's low end torque. When I put in the stock air box with a K&N drop in filter, it was a great experience. I could feel that "jumpiness" that the Maxima once had. (though it was a lot harder to get smoother acceleration from stop, ya know? having that big "roller-coaster-ride" feeling.)
T-One, a good alternative is to install OSCAI yourself. It would be around $20 at the most for parts, and you get the best of both worlds. You keep your low end jump, and you gain in the high end (due to the massive air being forced through the new fabricated tubing).
Search for OSCAI, I'm sure you'll be happy with it. Just be warned though, you get a little more dirt on the filter than usual...but nothing that a reoiling kit can't handle
hope that helps.
Pretend you have a low-rpm torque level of 10. With the JWT, you probably get a 6. There is some loss, but nothing too bad.
I removed my JWT cone though because one of the main reasons I love my Maxima (auto) so much was for it's low end torque. When I put in the stock air box with a K&N drop in filter, it was a great experience. I could feel that "jumpiness" that the Maxima once had. (though it was a lot harder to get smoother acceleration from stop, ya know? having that big "roller-coaster-ride" feeling.)
T-One, a good alternative is to install OSCAI yourself. It would be around $20 at the most for parts, and you get the best of both worlds. You keep your low end jump, and you gain in the high end (due to the massive air being forced through the new fabricated tubing).
Search for OSCAI, I'm sure you'll be happy with it. Just be warned though, you get a little more dirt on the filter than usual...but nothing that a reoiling kit can't handle
hope that helps.
08-21-2001, 07:11 AM
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OSCAI
Originally posted by Turd Ferguson
well, I was the one a long time ago who posted a thread about why I took my JWT intake off.
Pretend you have a low-rpm torque level of 10. With the JWT, you probably get a 6. There is some loss, but nothing too bad.
I removed my JWT cone though because one of the main reasons I love my Maxima (auto) so much was for it's low end torque. When I put in the stock air box with a K&N drop in filter, it was a great experience. I could feel that "jumpiness" that the Maxima once had. (though it was a lot harder to get smoother acceleration from stop, ya know? having that big "roller-coaster-ride" feeling.)
T-One, a good alternative is to install OSCAI yourself. It would be around $20 at the most for parts, and you get the best of both worlds. You keep your low end jump, and you gain in the high end (due to the massive air being forced through the new fabricated tubing).
Search for OSCAI, I'm sure you'll be happy with it. Just be warned though, you get a little more dirt on the filter than usual...but nothing that a reoiling kit can't handle
hope that helps.
well, I was the one a long time ago who posted a thread about why I took my JWT intake off.
Pretend you have a low-rpm torque level of 10. With the JWT, you probably get a 6. There is some loss, but nothing too bad.
I removed my JWT cone though because one of the main reasons I love my Maxima (auto) so much was for it's low end torque. When I put in the stock air box with a K&N drop in filter, it was a great experience. I could feel that "jumpiness" that the Maxima once had. (though it was a lot harder to get smoother acceleration from stop, ya know? having that big "roller-coaster-ride" feeling.)
T-One, a good alternative is to install OSCAI yourself. It would be around $20 at the most for parts, and you get the best of both worlds. You keep your low end jump, and you gain in the high end (due to the massive air being forced through the new fabricated tubing).
Search for OSCAI, I'm sure you'll be happy with it. Just be warned though, you get a little more dirt on the filter than usual...but nothing that a reoiling kit can't handle
hope that helps.
08-21-2001, 07:57 AM
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Re: To Do or Not.
Get the JWT... it does the same thing as the Stillen, but for less money.
Originally posted by T-One
I'm seriously thinking about either a Stillen or JWT popcharger. One other thing. I read previous threads where Max owners have removed their popchargers. What is the reasoning for this. If it sounds as great as you say. Why remove it?
I'm seriously thinking about either a Stillen or JWT popcharger. One other thing. I read previous threads where Max owners have removed their popchargers. What is the reasoning for this. If it sounds as great as you say. Why remove it?
08-21-2001, 01:11 PM
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I, too, went from JWT to stock K&N filter route after less than 1 year of usage. I noticed a difference in low end torque and high end hp. Stock: best for low end tq; JWT: best for high-end hp. I'm now thinking of getting an adapter that can be used for a 3" K&N cone filter and house it in a customized ram air tube to get the best of both worlds. I don't want to go with the CAI because I just can't drill that hole in the fender.
08-21-2001, 01:17 PM
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I just took out my JWT yesterday and put back my stock box. Car has that "kick" now. I've had the popcharger in for about a year now. For city driving, the torque loss under 3k rpm is annoying. This the especially noticeable when I accelerate out of a turn. High rpm acceleration is great with the popcharger. But as with most mods, you gain one thing, but you lose another.
08-21-2001, 02:33 PM
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I can see the difference about every day between the JWT and stock airbox. I have a 96 GLE that is running the stock airbox (auto) and a 97 SE (auto as well) that has a JWT in it. SE is slow off the line, GLE has alot of pickup, but in the higher rpms there's more power in the SE. Man...if I could only get my wife to race me, I want to see how much the GLE pulls compared to the SE off the line, then the difference in the high end between the two...
08-21-2001, 03:28 PM
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Re: Re: Pic
Originally posted by kevlo911
my engine j/k
it is a skyline engine
my engine
j/k it is a skyline engine
08-21-2001, 03:39 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Pic
Originally posted by T-One
On an other thread, someone asked about swapping their engine with a skyline. This person was told, it couldn't be done (because of rear wheel drive). How did you accomplish this?
On an other thread, someone asked about swapping their engine with a skyline. This person was told, it couldn't be done (because of rear wheel drive). How did you accomplish this?
J/K = just kidding
i am stock i have no skyline engine
i just thought they skyline engine looks good. plus the skyline is my favorite car in the whole world
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