Friday night on my way to Atlantic City, I was crusin around 75MPH on the AC expressway. A silver Celica GTS comes flying up on me. He had tinted window, superwhite headlights, and exhaust that's all that I could see.

As he's passing by, my friend says, "You're going to let that car pass you?"
So I speed up, I get right next to him and we begin to take off. I floor it, and pass him with ease.
I slow down, let him catch up and we go at it again. He never got ahead of me this time.

So by this time, I'm having lots of fun. So we get together one more time, I even let him get a half car length in front of me. I floor it, and I pass him again for a third time. We keep going up to about 125 and I just made the gap bigger and bigger, never saw him again.

Each time we went at it was around 70-80MPH. Guess at higher speeds the Celica's can't keep up.

PS. I have Y-pipe, RT cat, CAI - so maybe it wasn't a fair race.

 

Good job. I hate being behind those celicas, their rear end looks horrible. So I always make sure they see my taillights instead of me seeing theirs.

 

Good Job. Supposedly there is a fast GTS around here somewhere, But I haven't found one yet...

 

the GTS' are only fast when they are a 6-spd racing an auto.. yeah.. any 5spd max should take them.. and there are 2 GTS'- one is an automatic and one is the 6-speed.. but congrats.. i am one of the slowest maxima's on this board now..

 

I am an auto

Maybe at higher speeds it doesn't matter as much?

 

doesnt matter.. i ran against a GT-S 6spd from 60-110.. he was a car ahead of me after 85.. so you raced an auto.

 

How can you be sure?
I'm positive that the Y-pipe helps alot at higher speeds. Maybe this was the advantage?

What mods do you have?

 

My one and only defeat on the road this year was against a 2K GTS

 

the gts 6-speed run 14.3 w/ just an intake and a cat-back...
you must have a realllllly fast auto.

 

I don't know if it was a 6-speed or auto, with dark tinted windows all I could tell is that it was one person / shadow.

I'm not sure how we would face off-the-line, but at higher speeds I don't know if a 4cyl can get the power out.
My car has 165 fwhp and 190 ft-lbs of TQ. This is better than the 180hp and 133 ft-lbs of TQ the Celica has at the flywheel.

I'm not saying my car is a faster 1/4-mi car, but at higher speeds I think with the V6 we still get lots of power ( and don't forget the mods)

 

i have intake, ypipe, exhaust.. i am by no means a fast maxima because i am auto and i do have a lot of weight in stereo and in other people in the car counting myself.. but that car weigh about half if not less... those cars a light, with a 6-speed 180HP four banger.. you would have been reading his rear license plate..

you raced an auto.. i know this because a 5spd stock max can take those cars but an auto can't.. we disputed this on another GT-S thread.. they have 2 more gears than we do when they are 6spd and we are Auto..

hows the car looking ang?

 

I also had Cattman y-pipe, RT cat, Courtesy b-pipe and suspension done on my max (auto). He was killing his clutch, nonetheless he walked me good from 80mph onward. For whatever its worth, I applaud you on this win. But whoever was behind that GTS sure didn't know how to drive one.

 

On a well deveoped 4 banger, like the Celica GTS, the car gets more powerful as speed increases because 4 bangers have no torque down low, but develop more as the revs increase. The V-6 advantage really helps from 0 to 60, and graudally decreases as speed increases, compared to the GTS. The Celica has less torque, but it also has less weight. A 6 speed Celica GTS will give a 5 speed Max a very very good run, if he doesn't beat us, especially on the highway.

DW

 

GT-S come in 6-speed or auto.

 

Through everyone's experiences, I'm guessing that it was an auto, or a badly driven manual.

Either way, I bet he was surprise when I just kept beating him. Well, if anyone see's a silver GTS with very dark tinted windows, superwhite headlights, loud exhaust (and big tipped muffler), with NY plates maybe they can find out.

 

Ur a B-atch for not gettin up with me when your in my city.

 

mah bad. you are right

 

The Celicas are fast but they are only fast as you can drive them.

There was a 2k1 GT-S @ E-Town w/ a Injen intake & said his best was a 15.4 with stock rims up fron & some 18's on teh rear. He did not mention anythign about spinning but i am using that as a base time.

Also, my friend (she) has a 2k GT-S which is auto & has a nice dent on the back.

I dont think too much of them but it is possible to beat a GT-S even in a auto Max.

What i do know is that with CAI & Y-pipe i run consistent 15.3's so i know i am about as fast as a well driven GT-S.

Regardless, congrats on the win. (Notice i didnt say KILL, that tends to cause flames).

 

ight celicas are fast but not with every driver. a driver that knows his car should get 14.8 to 15.4 quater mileson a stock celica. but you really got to rape the car to get that good numbers. cai and exhaust cels usualy get 14.3 to 14.6 in the quater mile (all of these numbers are for 6 speed) ( autos re low 17's). nos 6 speeds with drag radials can do 13.2 quater (very hard to grip) but will usually get 13.7 to 13.9 at 105 mph . so it all depends who you run into but you won. it ain't impossible for a max to beat a gts. especially with the 02 6 speed max comin out.

 

it is possible for an auto to beat a gts. I just raced my friend in his 2k gts/intake from a stoplight. he launched about a half sec before I did but I caught up in the middle of first and was ahead about 3 feet then he caught up next to me and passed me up just a little at 3rd and I started pulling until I had to slow down cause of a car in front of me

 

I've owned both cars so I know that a i/e celica is a lot faster than a stock automagic 4th gen.
I've never driven a modd'd automagic though

anyhow here are two facts:
1) the auto GT-S is super slow
2) the 6spd GT-S is difficult to drive well. I can think of two guys at newcelica.org that average a 14.5 (billybrun & icyjaws). but a average driver will be 15s.
but... how hard is it to drive on the highway???

 

the auto GTS isnt that bad a friend of mine just got one... it has the manual mode with the shifters on the steeing wheel, pretty fun to mess around with.. also the vvtl-i engine gives you an extra boost from 6k rpms to redline, which is like 7800 i think.. its pretty quick for a 4 cylinder but when i got in my car after messin around in his, my car seemed a decent amount faster... their torque sux though.. 0-30 or so could be much better, it seems impossible to spin the wheels, even around a turn you would have to give it a lot of throttle

 

they have like 180HP but only 133lbs torque.. the max will seem faster b/c we have about 40 more lbs of torque and our HP's are somewhat near there.. the main difference when an AUTO max races a 6-speed GT-S is the extra 2 gears and the 1500-2000 lbs less in weight..

 

1500-2000 less in weight?? r u serious? 4th generation max weights around 3100 - 2000 = 1100, a geo metro weights more than that.

 

Thebigsadler is also the guy who thinks his GLE weighs 3700 lbs... so obviously he doesn't have a clue about the weights of any car... 2000 lbs difference lol.

 

I've driven both a GTS and an RSX-R. One has to really rev the crap out of the engine to get the numbers (0-60 and 1/4 mile). SportCompact tested the RSX-R and only got 7.6 and 15.6 (but they say the conditions weren't ideal). My point is you have to know how the get the power out of those 4 bangers. I have mentioned a while back that I have beaten a type-R with my stock 96SE. But I could tell the kid shifted at around 5K. Regardless, nice win and now that person has the impression that Max's are crazy fast!

 

JoesMax, your car is sweet!!

There are NO modd'd maximas DesMoines or Ames, IA. Except for one guy with a supra style wing If any of you guys with a stillen body kit lived down here, everyone woudl be WOW!

 

haha.. i was talking about when i was racing the GT-S, i had a friend in the car so thats an extra 400 (me and him) plus 200 lbs in stereo and heavier seats (infiniti's)..

maybe you should try and add that to the proposed stock weight of 3100, see what you come up with nealoc187?? don't speak unless you know the facts.

 

ok, but you're still pretty off, assume yr car is 1500lb heavier than the C, that puts the C in 2200lb. Well a stock GT-S weights 2500 http://www.edmunds.com/new/2002/toyo...tml?id=lin0018 so you're 300 off + another 200 for the driver.

 

great so i was off in weight.. you want a medal or monument for your accomplishments. the point is, weight is a factor.

 

no I don't want you to mislead other people, I don't want people to get the idea that maxima is 1000+lb heavier than a celica.

 

maybe you just have one of those "thursday" cars that is just unnaturally fast, or maybe he just had a "friday-evening" car. (you know, one of those unusually slow cars that were produced on fri evening about 4:30 when everyone at the factory was ready to GO HOME!)

maybe he just had a muffler on his car. a lot of people i know do stuff like that just to have a loud "rice-racer" sound.

either way, nice kill!

 

600 lbs is still alot

 

WOW, thanks for letting us know weight is a factor... we had no idea!!!

And do you deny that about 3 weeks ago you claimed your car weighed 3700lbs? I'll go back and find a link to that thread if you want me to. You said nothing of extra passengers and stereo... you said your car weighed 3700 lbs, don't twist the facts just because you are wrong.

 

nice.

 

WHAT??? i said i had a friend with me and stereo.. and i know my car weighs around there..

 

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....7&pagenumber=1

go read my second post on the first page..

 

Thats not the post... the thread I am talking about was one that I replied to, saying it doesnt weigh 3700lbs.

 

my car weighs 3700lbs or more.. stereo, my fat ***, etc.. i'll take it to a truck weigh station and get an exact quote for you.