So once you soldered that wire to the metal piece you melted in the orange tab you then have that piece grounded correct? Did you just ground it to the chasis behind the radio? there is a big grounding screw there.

 

no sir. the tab is LIVE power wire.

the rivets on the shifter are ground.

pretty much i did the schematic they had on page 3.

 

If you wire it up like in the diagram witout it first going through a load ie, bulbs it would be a direct short. The orange indicator was supposed to be completing the ground circuit as it passes over each rivet. So if you have live power to it I don't see how yours works.

 

Well, it's working for me. o_O

 

Where did you run the wires from the rivets to? Since you have power feeding the indicator orange piece and it makes contact with the rivets then that's all power feeds not grounds. Anyhow like you said, it works.

 

Just putting out my feelers a bit - what kind of interest would there be in me exporting Cefiro clusters from here in New Zealand?

 

I would be interested in buying the bezel trim (black part) and the PRND display part, rather than the whole cluster.

 

I highley doubt he will be selling those pieces separately. Which I is why you would have to get the whole cluster. Let's see what these are going for in price if its to much we would probably be better off getting the 2001 cluster with the gear display in the cluster and wire it in. From what I have seen it can be done. Just a matter of splicing in the harnesses and it would require some proficiency and reading the FSM diagrams of the 4th and 5th gen. I think there is a how to for this in NYC maximas.

 

My NZ cluster its on its way thanks to SInturion. I also picked up a 2001 cluster I got a good deal on so Im debating on which to do. I need to get a hold of the FSM manuels so I can see what I need to do to wire the 5th gen cluster in my 4th gen. For some reason the the links Pmohr has for the FSM are down

 

its doable but you'll lose cruise control. ask me how i know.

 

So you did the 5th gen conversion? Did you tap into the inhibitor switch to get the gear display to work? If so do I need to buy the PNS switch for the 5th Gen and plug it into the inhibitor switch? From what I heard the PNS switch from the 5th Gen will plug right into the 4th gen inhibitor switch but it needs to be tapped into correctly to tell the 2001 cluster what gear your in hence lighting the gear display. Also I heard there are two parts of the 5th gen PNS switch, I'm assumimg the first is the Switch itself and second is the harness sound right?

Loose cruise control? Really? That sucks there's no way to get it to work if you do the conversion?

 

BTW, are you doing this for fun, or do you really need to know which gear you have selected?

In the second case, you could look down at the selector lever!

In the first place, if you do need to look down or look at some lights on the cluster to find out which gear to select, sorry dude, you are not a driver. Period.

Driving or sitting in an Automatic, I can tell you which gear it's in at any point in time.

Cheers.
Don't take it personally!

 

I wish I was as smart as you Kyle... Seriously.

 

Stupid post of the year candidate!

 

Oh boy here we go! Did you even read into this thread at all before you went on bashing people about not knowing what gear they are in? The reason we want this display in the cluster at all is because we have lost our display near the shifter do to adding a shift boot. No not because we want to look like we are 5 spds but because its a cool modernized look that many new cars come with today hence the gear display in the cluster. Bmw auto have a shift boot along with a small display in the right coner of the shifter area.

Sure I know what gear I'm in without looking, I've had my car new since 97 but its added assurance seeing an actual display in the cluster especially on a drunk night. J.K. So don't take this personally other people may have their own reason for adding the gear display. All I have stated is my reason for it. Now for any others don't have information to help this thread by sticking to the topic please keep it to yourselves.

 

you sir are a douche'
Cheers
Take it personally!

 

i should have mentioned i am a 5 speed. so none of that was needed for me.

BUT


you are correct to an extent, from what i remember from the FSM 4th gens and 2000-2001 5th gen's are almost interchangeable. what i would do is start sourcing the connectors and wiring that you'll need to get started.

i shouldn't say LOSE, ill just say its kinda difficult to keep. on the 5th gens the cruise control is dependant on the cluster. There is no On/Off switch for the cruise control, it always on and our cars arent setup to activate it that way.
Im still working out the bugs on that part, i should have it done by jan.

 

Oh I see. I'm sure there's a way around the cruise control issue. I think made -n china has his working. At least I assume so and he's using the I35 cluster in his 4th gen. He never mentioned his cruise control not working so I don't know. Is Ebay a good source to get the FSM's? they offer them on a disk working with any operating system for cheap like 8 bucks. I know Pmhor had them on here but they are not working so I need the 4th and 5thgen FSM now.

 

Made-In-China has the full 3.5 set up, you can use the 3.5 cluster but you WILL NOT be able to keep cruise control.

 

Read you fool.


Andre man, Im not the one that figured it out haha jk, but thanks man. I just think outside the box sometimes.



Blackwind, when I get a chance I will see if I cant figure that out for you, I havent had time to sit down and really look at it.

 

i have a strong idea on how to fix it, its just a matter of time to work on it. but keep me posted with what you got we may be on the same page.

 

**** did you finish your swap? Which did you do?

Blackwind I'm sticking with the 2001 AE swap I already picked up a cluster with 137,000 almost exact match to my mileage. Got it for 93 bucks ebay. I just need the FSM manuels the 5th and 4th gen, PNS sw and I'll be ready to get to work.

 

hahha. Awesome.

Lookin good fellas. The only issue I see now is making it look pretty.

 

then you are good to go. what year is your car?

 

Nope, I haven't started it yet >.<

 

Im a 97 SE cant find the fsm on these ( 2001) unless I buy them on ebay. We had access to them from here but the link doesnt work now.

 

Blackwind are you sure I need the PSN switch from the 2001 to get the swap working? A friend of mine who's a mechanic at nissan said why can't I just tap into the inhibitor switch versus getting
The PSN switch for the 2001? I don't understand why I need it either If the signals can be taken from the inhibitor switch.

 

it will simplify things. also when you get the chance look at the ASCD(cruise control) schematic. you'll see where my thinking comes from.

 

I was speaking in terms of getting the gear display in the 5th gen cluster to light up when each gear is changed. I was asking why do we need to use the PSN switch for the 5th Gen. Couldnt we get the gear signal from the inhibitor switch with out using the 5th gen PSN switch?

 

i would think you could, but im a little fuzzy on my answers without access to the fsm. sorry.

 

I just bought both FSM from Ebay. Once I get them I can really study both diagrams and see what needs to be done. Right now I'm just guessing. I wish Tavarish or Eng92 would chime in, I know they have both done the swap. Eng92 have the 2003 cluster though which is totally different as far as how the cluster receives its signals what I hear.

 

yeah its WAYYY different.

 

I got my AT display to work the signals are right under the BCM in the AT control module its really freaking tight in there to tap the wire but I did it. Only problem is that the P and N signals come from the same wire at the AT control module, so my P and N display both lite wheter in im P or N. I think maybe I can fix this using a relay.

So there is no need to rig up some circuit... just tap the wires signals from module and run them up to your guages. I also used the 2001 cluster with the AT display already in it though so if you want this to work with your stock 97 it will not work. You will need the NZ cluster that has the AT display and diodes alreay in the guages. Then it will be plug and play providing you tap the signals from the control module. Just wanted to share the knowlegde.

 

 

Park or Neutral. The signals come from the same wire in the AT control module.

 

all I saw was "****"

 

sinner

 

BlackWind you get your high beam indicator to work?

 

not yet. im driving back to vegas tonight so ill be able to work on it this weekend.

 

Well its done, only problem is that the Park and Nuetral signal come from the wire so they both light up together wheter in Park or Nuetral. Other than that it work flawlessly. I used the 2001 AE, im still in the process of getting it to work properly.

I also am taking the PCB from the NZ cluster and swapping that with my cluster so I will have the AT display in that as well. This will be a back up if I can't get the 2001 cluster to work properly.