You need to get the *** out of my thread and stop bumping to get your 15 posts.

 

I think its 74 bulb type

 

Are you sure? I have a 97 and I know the guage bulbs are 194 and the arrow and indicator bulbs are smaller than the 194 any one clarify this?

 

98-99 use 74

 

what do you guys think of this?




yeah, i know it needs cleaning. this is the first time i opened it..

and by the way..... won't it be hard for the other guys to take this piece out? since the factory shifter is basically wired in? i had to cut mine apart and rewire my O/D because i have a stainless steel shifter.. o_O

 

Yeah that could work but how will you have the orange strip make contact with each wire as you change gears? I already cut out my stock shifter added my own(custom) shifter and relocated my OD sw. So that already out of the way.

 

well, the red tab has like a gap this big between that piece --> [ ] so maybe i can fab up something and see. still working on it.

 

Since I think the easiest way is to use the shifter as the ground side of the circuit, you can maybe pop rivet a piece of wire and make sure you get a good ground on the orange tap. Then stick each wire for PRND21 in there correct location. Then run your wires over to the cluster and with a volt meter check continuity to ground for each wire while in that gear ie, P continuity to ground, R continuity to ground etc. Once you get continuity to ground on each of the wires while in that gear you know you will have a complete circuit while in the gear hence lighting each bulb. At that point all you would have to do is grab power from maybe the dimmer switch, feed one side of each bulb or LED (which ever you choose) and your done. Make sense?

 

i currently am doing the auto shifter **** from stock to a cooler looking one with a shift boot, so it appears to be manual a little. the gauge prndl display write up should be a great help instead of trying to guess what u shifted to.

 

Ya'll are barking up the way wrong tree here.

If ya'll want a switch assembly, look in the Gen 5.5 FSM, AT section and find the "PNP switch", it contains the "transmission range switch"

Also check the EL section of the 5.5 FSM, it shows the schematic for the PNP switch. The PNP switch can be attached to the Gen 4 auto trans, use a wire harness clipping from a wrecked Gen 5 and wire it up that way.

 

How does this PNP switch hook up to the 4th Gen transmission? Is it all electrical? or something mechanical as well? How does this PNP switch function?

 

When I had the Gen 4 AT out next to the Gen 5.5 AT, the "inhibitor" switch on the Gen 4 AT and the "PNP" switch on the Gen 5.5 AT appeared interchangeable, as they must be since JDM and KDM A32's have the PRNDL indicator with this model trans.

Look at the Gen 4 and 5.5 FSM's and you'll see how to attach the PNP in place of the inhibitor switch.

BTW, for anyone interested I updated post #90, you can see a Gen 4 with PRND321 indicator.

 

I saw the updated post, what cluster is that from? that in a 4th gen?

So your basically saying I can use the Inhibitor swith on the 4th gen and swap it out for a PNP switch from a 5.5 gen and i can add the PRND21 display in the cluster in the 4th gen cluster say from the New Zealand Cefiro and the display will work?

 

The cluster is from a 2004 I35

Basically, yes. I would suggest that you acquire a used PNP switch and harness clipping from a Gen 5.5 (Gen 5 maybe OK?) for a fair price and try to install it on your Maxima. From what I saw, and what is in the FSM these parts are physically interchangeable, you would just need to wire in the new sub-harness. BTW, the Gen 5.5 PNP switch has two parts, one part is just like the Gen 4 inhibitor, and the other part has the switches for the PRND321 display. Please refer to the FSM EL section, "A/T INDICATOR" of the Gen 4 and 5.5 to see what I mean.

 

that would be cool but i rather buy a stroger amp to blast musik will i drive lol

 

So you got this 2004 cluster from an I35 to work using the inhibitor switch from the 4th gen and some type PNP switch from the I35?

Looking at the diagram on the FSM manuels it looks like there's wiring involved to get the PNP swith from the 5th gen to work with the inhibitor switch for the 4th Gen. So still don't see how this would send power to those empty PRND21 bulb slots on the back of the 4th gen cluster though. Also I can't tell where the inhibitor switch is located on the 4th gen. Does the car need to be on a lift to access the switch?

 

ok.. so i came up with this..


what do you guys think?







that was the idea i had.. now to actually get the LED's and power going and we should be good?

 

Looks like your idea will work. Are you using pop rivets there with some type of washer on top side? you should use that side there for the ground side of the circuit and for power use the dimmer switch for power. How are you making the orange indicator make contact with each of those circuits?

Are you reading into what Made In China is saying about being able to use
the Inhibitor switch and intergrate with the 5 gen PNP switch to make the display work? Also what will you do for a display in the gauge cluster?

 

yes those are rivets. the PRND display clear piece that is near the shifter, ima take that and use that inside the guage cluster. and ima just take a e-brake broke to cover the shifter. other than that, i got a way to make the orange tab touch the rivets and complete the ground circuit. i'm still in the process of it. i just need to get on it. because i'm still in school and i am trying to get my grades as well. sorry for the delay. And yes i did see what Made In China was saying, but i didn't want to go through all that.

I feel better about myself making something for my maxima rather as buying something and hooking it up. But i mean, to each his own.

 

I hear ya I'm also in school full time and work full time.

I don't see how the heck you will get that big **** display in the cluster im trying to get a hold of the display that fits right in place like the one ptatoehed has, then I'll start mine. As for the shift boot check out Redline.com Maciek the owner there can hook you up with a real leather custom one. I got my ebrake boot, arm rest cover and shift boot custom made from them quality is excellent you will not be disappointed.

Getting back to the inhibitor switch....It would be nice to get it to work but it would involve some rewiring. I also may just make up my own circiut like you are since no one has confirmed it would work or posted a how to on it. I'll see which is easier when I start mine. If you get yours to work you will be the first to have confirmed getting the stock cluster to have a working shift display. I wonder how Ptatoeheds worked out.

 

well, ima cut that piece to fit. But it might require me to cut more out the guage face for it. but that is something i can work out and make it look flush. I'm actually almost complete with the idea, gonna work on it soon after i eat, because all i am doing is putting all the wires together so that all i have to do is plug them up and they should work. I will post pics of the soldering on the back cluster.

and another thing was.. Since i finally realized that i sold the LED wedge bulbs, (197/194) ?? I decided to get 2 wedge LEDs' out and test them out on the MPH part of the cluster, And since they are White, I noticed a HUGE difference. The guage cluster looks way better than the one bought on ebay for about 20 bucks.. so ima stick with that, and install the rest of the LED's in. but other than that, the positive wires are going to ran from the dimmer switch and the ground will be tapped into the body of the car besides the shifter. and ima solder the ground to the chasis as well, to ensure a good connection. but we will see how this will work out.

and it may not please you other .orgers out there but ima stick with white background behind the PRND Display. 2 and 1 are gonna be Obselete since i don't need to light those up.

but we shall see

 

Hey man, do you think you could measure the width of that cavity where you have the rivets?

I am wondering if I could lay down a sliver of circuit board in there.

 

sure. o_O

 

i'll honestly say, i was never taught how to read a ruler except the inches.. so i post pictures up.. maybe that will help?




sorry. i really and truely can't take a guess of exact mesurements.. =(

i feel stupid actually lol

 

don't forget that there is plenty of room under that piece pictured. I'm going to mount a terminal board under it and have some type of linkage between the shifter and the terminal board that will move in unison completing a circiut to each bulb as I shift .Nice to see different ideas though.

 

Thats perfect man, thank you.

I am going to lay a strip of circuit board down in that, and as the shifter moves up and down it will come in contact with separate circuit pads, completing the circuit for each light.

 

I gotta say for someone who can't read a ruler, you are a very ingenious guy. I almost like your setup better than the stock PNP setup, it could be a viable alternative to the way I was suggesting.

 

well I'm not sure exactly what the PNP route fully involves but the way it is planned here should work out fine.

 

hey guys.. i was playing around with a dremel and cut the PRND piece off the shifter and came up with this.. o_O



so umm..... hows it look so far? o______O

 

I had went ahead and soldered in my white LED's i bought from advanced auto parts for about 10 bucks.. they only had 4.. so i guess 4 is enough.. because i am only doing the PRND and thats it. here is a picture of them soldered in to the back.



I forget what to do after this.. o_O

can i just have live power feeding all the LED's and then just using the switch to ground and complete the circuit? i forget, i'm just worried they all might turn on when i do that. o_O

but i think thats how it should be done?

 

Not bad!! You're daring, I am not brave enough to cut my bezel :/ But thats not bad, man!

 

so far so good?

 

Your going to have power feed each of the bulbs on the positive side of the LED. They are polarity sensitive so make sure you feed positive (from the Dimmer switch or where ever your grabing power from) to the positve side of each LED. Remember your ground is what completes the circuit so each time you change your gears you are completing the circuit to that indivivdual LED. Really nice job on the Display in the cluster, it came out a lot better than what I had thought. Know just get it working and your done.

 

And I'll be the first person to do this



SUCCESS!! N - R - P works.. i jsut didn't want to put up 4 pictures.. but hey, it's all good. finished in time

 

congratulations it seems you are the first to have acccomplished this. How did you get the orange indicator in the shifter diplay to make contact with your rivets? Can you take a pic of the way the connection is?

 

Wow you guys got it to work, congratulations!

And it looks great too, I honestly think its a LOT of work for the PRND on the cluster, but bravo bravo!

 

Wow man, you really have me tempted to try and do this. I might pick up a spare PRND21 display from a junkyard car, and go to town on my spare gauge bezel.

 

well, of course the tab was used to go over the rivets. so what i did was took a thin piece of metal and cut it to fit inside the inner piece of the tab. (under it) and then took my solder iron, and melted the plastic around the metal piece to make it stay put. then i took a wire and soldered it onto the metal piece in the tab and hooked power wire to it. i should have taken pictures of how i did it. but everything is tied down and i'm too lazy to pull it apart scared that it will come aloose.. so yeah

i aint very wordy on my stuff but yeah

 

it shift like a F1 ?? really ?

 

don't make me take my belt off newbie!!