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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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The Timing Chain Jingle

I've read all the threads on how to fix it, I think, but my main question is, does the jingle actually hurt anything?

Mine does it at startup briefly, it sounds like there is loose change rattling, then it goes away. My question is, what happens if I don't do anything about it.

And is the consensus that you just need to replace that gasket in there? Looks like a PIA and would rather not tackle it at this point unless I'm on the fast track to kill my engine or something.

Thanks again. I'm new to this motor/car, so if my question seems stupid, sorry, I'm just trying to get my feet wet on this thing.
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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Before you settle on the TC being the issue...were the CV joints also changed in the past 6 months or so?

Reason I ask is that non-oem CV axles have a metal disc/ring ring on them that seems to come loose & is a bear to figure out till it's up in the air & running in gear.

Look for a post I started on this subject about a year ago.
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Double E
Before you settle on the TC being the issue...were the CV joints also changed in the past 6 months or so?

Reason I ask is that non-oem CV axles have a metal disc/ring ring on them that seems to come loose & is a bear to figure out till it's up in the air & running in gear.

Look for a post I started on this subject about a year ago.
Actually, yes, they were. And this noise is immediately there when started and not moving. If I warm it up in the morning, it's there when started, then in 2 minutes, or less, it's gone and doesnt' come back until the next morning or if it sits for 8 hours at work.
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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I'd still check both axles for the loose ring. I wasn't able to hear it on mine so much when it was idling but there was enough play in the ring diameter that it was still making a jingle. The ring will be near the tranny end of the axle. My only loose one was on the pass side. I just covered the ring in RTV and seated it against the cheap spot welds that had come loose.

Hope you find the same. The dealer could not even locate the problem ...but did tell me that it wasn't the tensioner.
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Double E
I'd still check both axles for the loose ring. I wasn't able to hear it on mine so much when it was idling but there was enough play in the ring diameter that it was still making a jingle. The ring will be near the tranny end of the axle. My only loose one was on the pass side. I just covered the ring in RTV and seated it against the cheap spot welds that had come loose.

Hope you find the same. The dealer could not even locate the problem ...but did tell me that it wasn't the tensioner.
I'll do that, thank you. Might save me from tearing into something I know nothing about.
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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If the timing chain jumps, your going to be in trouble. It's a cheap fix, just a lot of labor, but well worth it.

Fix it.
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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matter of fact my 1998 max is makin some real loud rattling noises and just found out that theres no oil in it.... i know it does nt leak no oil but dont know what happened?
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
If the timing chain jumps, your going to be in trouble. It's a cheap fix, just a lot of labor, but well worth it.

Fix it.
So, the consensus is that little gasket is the problem? I may take it somewhere, just so they can make sure the tension is right on it, that's something I don't know much about.
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:41 AM
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Since we are talking about timeing chains, I've always wondered is there is milage rating for changing.
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BeZerK2112
Since we are talking about timeing chains, I've always wondered is there is milage rating for changing.
From what I understand the chain NEVER needs replaced, but I could be wrong.
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:55 AM
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I just re-read that link on how to replace your tensioner and that gasket and there is NO WAY I'm tackling that. If it took an experienced guy 3+ hours, my car will be an antique before I'd get done.
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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I'm ready to get flamed for this ...but that would be a dealer check-out situation for me...

I don't trust a garage that works on everything to be able to also understand the specific characteristics of and have expperience with a timing chain issue with the VQ engine. I do what I can myself, but that chain is important shiznit.

Maybe I'm spoiled from the Infin. dealer giving the free loaner and from having the cash to afford them....but peace of mind has no price.
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Double E
I'm ready to get flamed for this ...but that would be a dealer check-out situation for me...

I don't trust a garage that works on everything to be able to also understand the specific characteristics of and have expperience with a timing chain issue with the VQ engine. I do what I can myself, but that chain is important shiznit.

Maybe I'm spoiled from the Infin. dealer giving the free loaner and from having the cash to afford them....but peace of mind has no price.
I won't argue with that, but I'm not willing to fork out a grand for a $20 part, I know that.

If I can find a Nissan specific mechanic, which I should be able to do in KC, I'd trust them, for sure. But, I see where you're going and don't disagree.
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