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Old 10-31-2001, 08:06 AM
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H&R or Intrax lowering springs

I just some 18" wheels about a week ago now i have to decided whcih springs i should go with. I want that lowered and agressive appearance but without the harsh bumpy ride. I was thinking about going with H&R(lowers the car about 1.5") but kinda worried that there will still be a wheel gap that won't give it that agressive appearance. And there is Intrax(lowers the car 1.75") but has a firmer ride, thus possibe bumpy ride. So to those that have either spring convince me on which lowering springs i should purchase, thank you!
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H&Rs ride nice and smooth. Check my sig for the gap. Don't rule out B&G springs either. There getting some good feed back on here.
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you will not like the ride with Intrax. Unless your using the proper struts like KYB AGX then youll be ok, Konis would work well with them as well. I reccomend H&R/Tokico, ive had mine for 2yrs now and still feel as good as the day i got them.
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Old 10-31-2001, 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd
H&Rs ride nice and smooth. Check my sig for the gap. Don't rule out B&G springs either. There getting some good feed back on here.
Thanks you guys i think H&R was the choice i was most likely to go with.

njmaxsetd: What the size of your wheels and tires? NICE!!!! yours to 96nymax
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eibach/tokico here....
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I've had H&R for two years with stock struts. I'm gonna install KYB AGX's soon...
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Originally posted by 98GLE_RAVERBOY


Thanks you guys i think H&R was the choice i was most likely to go with.

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Intrax

I had Eibachs and it didnt look like the cars was dropped at all I have Intrax and they ride fine. If your worried about the wheel gap Id save my money and go with Intrax you can get them from summit racing for 189.99 plus shipping but if you have the money and dont care about wheel gap Id go with HR.
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Hows the ride with INtrax, is it bumpy?
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Intrax = rough
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i would go with h&r's and kybs......i'm not a big fan of tokicos.....
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Originally posted by mrb23
I've had H&R for two years with stock struts. I'm gonna install KYB AGX's soon...
Are you getting AGXs because the stocks went bad, or just for better handling?
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You still get wheel gap with H&R ??

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How many miles did you have when you installed the H&R with the stock sruts and how many you have now ??


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HITTING BUMPS AND POTHOLES

Intrax are not bad springs, people make them seem like they are coilovers. If you have the unreliable Tokicos I d assume the ride is rough. If they are so rough I wouldnt have them on my car let alone cut them which I already did. With Koni Adjustables you can loosen the shock and have a good ride.
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Re: HITTING BUMPS AND POTHOLES

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Intrax are not bad springs, people make them seem like they are coilovers. If you have the unreliable Tokicos I d assume the ride is rough. If they are so rough I wouldnt have them on my car let alone cut them which I already did. With Koni Adjustables you can loosen the shock and have a good ride.
if you want to keep a smooth ride and don't care about the huge gap go with h&r. i went with apex 1.6" drop and agx = very small gap and very sporty ride
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Old 10-31-2001, 05:30 PM
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INTRAX PICS

here are some pics of mine with 17s on intrax springs
http://www.geocities.com/njmaximaclub/MaximaR.html
 
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The GAPS you speak of

I'm curios these gaps you all talk about. How big is it, would going with a thicker tire correct that gap? I'm going to get my 18"s and suspension so I'm curious.

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Why is everyone complaining about tokico struts being bad ? The problem is if you go lower than 1.5" they go out fast, because it was not made for any drop over 1.5" if your going lower than that PLEASE GET KONIS OR SOMETHING ELSE ! As for me I love my H&R & Tokico combo smooth ride without the harshness and handles corners well, I also brong 4 people to the Woodberry meet and the tires weren't rubbing at all.
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Originally posted by Max4U
Why is everyone complaining about tokico struts being bad ? The problem is if you go lower than 1.5" they go out fast, because it was not made for any drop over 1.5" if your going lower than that PLEASE GET KONIS OR SOMETHING ELSE ! As for me I love my H&R & Tokico combo smooth ride without the harshness and handles corners well, I also brong 4 people to the Woodberry meet and the tires weren't rubbing at all.
i had the tokico and sent them back. i put the new agx with my apex 1.6". you can not compare h&r/tokico set up with any other set up. with the h&r the gap is to big and the ride is to soft. with my set up i have 18x8.5 wheels with 245/40 tires and it doesn't rub and my car will look lower than yours when parked next to me even with my big tires and 0.1" lower apex springs. if you think that the h&r handle the corners well try driving a different set up, i don't even have a rsb yet. let's no forget that i have the slowest max on this board.
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Originally posted by 97GLES
i had the tokico and sent them back. i put the new agx with my apex 1.6". you can not compare h&r/tokico set up with any other set up. with the h&r the gap is to big and the ride is to soft. with my set up i have 18x8.5 wheels with 245/40 tires and it doesn't rub and my car will look lower than yours when parked next to me even with my big tires and 0.1" lower apex springs. if you think that the h&r handle the corners well try driving a different set up, i don't even have a rsb yet. let's no forget that i have the slowest max on this board.
Thats nice, but everyone is different you may like your set up but I love mines, the reason is that I dont care much about handling I drop my car mainly for looks so my rims would look better on the car and I love the stock ride I hate the stiffness so whats good for you is not always good for everybody else.

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Originally posted by Max4U

Thats nice, but everyone is different you may like your set up but I love mines, the reason is that I dont care much about handling I drop my car mainly for looks so my rims would look better on the car and I love the stock ride I hate the stiffness so whats good for you is not always good for everybody else.

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what i'm really saying is that the tokico work well with the stock springs or h&r springs anything else and forget about it. i wish somebody told me the truth before buying the tokico's but i found out the hard and expensive way. when they send me the new set of tokico i will sell them at a very good price.
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Re: The GAPS you speak of

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I'm curios these gaps you all talk about. How big is it, would going with a thicker tire correct that gap? I'm going to get my 18"s and suspension so I'm curious.

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Yes, a thicker tire will correct the gap BUT, it will offset your speedo and odometer ( a bad thing sometimes ). With my intrax springs the gap in the front is about 2-2 1/2 finger gap and the back is a 2 finger gap. im still on stock struts, and i have no problems , however , i am going to change them out soon just for comfort.
 
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Im still debating and can't make up my mind, between H&R or B&G's. See my next set will be 245/40 w/ my 18 x 8.5 wheels, so I'm just not sure if wheels will rub with B&G set up. Anyone know for sure????
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yes dropping it to look nice

Yes when you lower it makes the car look a whole lot nice, especially if you have 18's or 19's the wheels look big. As a matter of fact my friend has 20's on his ride and we measured overall diameter on wheels he has 245/35 20 and I have 245/40 18 he has 1 and 1/4 of an inch more wheel diameter than I have so you go figure is not worth adding 20 more lbs to your wheels for 1 1/4 of an inch of wheel diameter when you can bring the vehicle down and make it look nice. See if our cars dropped nice like hondas and acuras and bmw and so on we wouldnt be arguing about this issue. Thats why the 5th gen Max's those drop nice with regular eibachs about time Nissan corrects that nasty wheel well problem.

My opinion I dont like the way the 4th gen drop with just 1.5, or 1.6 doesnt even look dropped, I just hate when a RiceaRoni honda owner came up to me and said did you drop it? I was about to drop him for such a stupid question.
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Intrax...

I have the Intrax/KYB GR-2 setup and I like it a lot over anything with less of a drop. The ride to me is fine, knowing that the lower you go the more harsh it'll be. The wheel gap suits me perfectly, it actually makes my Maxima looked dropped. I know the that the H&R's have a nice ride, but I think that's just because the drop isn't that much, don't get me wrong, H&R's do decrease the wheel gap, but not enough for my needs. I'd like to see H&R's make a set of springs with the same drop as Intrax, then we can really compare the two.
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Where can I get the Intrax Srings from, are they cheaper than H&R?
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summit racing

Get them from summit racing they are 189.99 and handling is 5.00 they are not charging on shipping on intrax springs for the moment. And yes depending on where you buy them from H R springs do cost more than intrax. At least here in New Orleans they tried to charge me $275.00 for the intrax springs plus tax and and installation which is $175.00 but I only paid once on that so now I do my own work myself. That is where I got my intrax springs from.
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Originally posted by mrb23
I've had H&R for two years with stock struts. I'm gonna install KYB AGX's soon...

mrb: can you post the pic of your car. I got the same wheels you have and just want to see what my car would look like, thanks! What springs do you have.
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Originally posted by matty
You still get wheel gap with H&R ??

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How many miles did you have when you installed the H&R with the stock sruts and how many you have now ??


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I just got my H&R put on like last weekend. Still running stock shocks though. It's a decent drop. Hella lot better lookin then before. Ride is nice. Almost as good as stock. But as time goes on, you'll see it break in more and a lil bit more of a drop will be present. I have the GLE, so maybe the shocks are more softer then those with the SE..
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