Impossible to replace fuel filter? Especially with ABS
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Impossible to replace fuel filter? Especially with ABS
I looked at mine and after trying to disconnect the hoses I thought "no flippin way...." In about 5 minutes of getting ABSOLUTELY nowhere I decided to take a different approach. I just said screw it and pulled the hose from the fuel rail, jacked up the car, took the drivers side wheel off, dangled the fuel filter down there and then went to town and it was a lot easier (I changed it out in less than 10 minutes), especially with that ABS controller and respective brake lines right in front of the fuel filter.
I searched the forums on how to do it and couldn't find any real helpful tips, so I just thought I would post this up in case it can be of any help to anyone.
Just some additional tips posted in this thread:
I searched the forums on how to do it and couldn't find any real helpful tips, so I just thought I would post this up in case it can be of any help to anyone.
Just some additional tips posted in this thread:
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I looked at mine and after trying to disconnect the hoses I thought "no flippin way...." In about 5 minutes of getting ABSOLUTELY nowhere I decided to take a different approach. I just said screw it and pulled the hose from the fuel rail, jacked up the car, took the drivers side wheel off, dangled the fuel filter down there and then went to town and it was a lot easier (I changed it out in less than 10 minutes), especially with that ABS controller and respective brake lines right in front of the fuel filter.
I searched the forums on how to do it and couldn't find any real helpful tips, so I just thought I would post this up in case it can be of any help to anyone.
I searched the forums on how to do it and couldn't find any real helpful tips, so I just thought I would post this up in case it can be of any help to anyone.
Im looking @ ur vehicle list and GET THE F OUT LOL
you have a stock maxima and u list that ur taurus WAGON is 200hp??
GO TO SLEEP
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lol dude you might get flamed for this and i dont blame them, it takes 10 min to do it without jacking your car up. did u disconnect the fuel pump fuse and relieve all the pressure from the fuel lines? some cranking of the starter to get all the pressure out.
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Umm.....wow. +1 and thumbs up for you and useful posts on the .org. [/sarcasm]
Do some research of the 3.0 Liter Duratec V6 back in 1996. 3 liter dual overhead cam, it had primary and secondary intake ports on each cylinder, one was closed below 3500RPM for better torque and above 3500 the butterflies snap open for better high RPM breathing. Yes, that is a somewhat variable intake manifold.
In fact here are some interesting facts on the engine:
Mazda AJ was introduced in 1996 as a replacement for the 232 in³ (3.8 L) Essex V6 in the Taurus/Sable. It has 2967 cc of displacement and produces between 200 and 240 hp (150 and 180 kW). The same basic engine is used in the Jaguar S-Type, Lincoln LS, Mazda MPV, Mazda6, Mondeo ST220 and many other Ford vehicles. It is essentially a bored-out (to 89 mm) Duratec 25 and is built in Ford Motor Company's Cleveland, OH #2 plant. A slightly modified version for the Ford Five Hundred entered production at the Cleveland, OH #1 plant in 2004. There are two key versions of the Duratec 30:
A Twin-turbocharged version of this engine is used in the Noble M400, a British supercar. The engine is rebuilt and tuned to a max power of 425 bhp (317 kW) @ 6500 rpm, with a torque figure of 390 ft·lbf (530 N·m) @ 5000 rpm. Noble has used forged pistons, an oil cooler, a larger baffled oil sump and extra cooling ducts to maintain its durability.
Mazda's MZI version adds variable valve timing, as does Jaguar's AJ30. Note that the MZI name is also used in Europe on Mazda's version of the Ford Sigma I4. The 3.0 L, 226 hp (169 kW) V6 used in the Mondeo ST220 is called Duratec ST. The 3.0 L, 204 hp (152 kW) V6 in the Mondeo Titanium is called Duratec SE.
- DAMB - The Lincoln LS and Jaguar AJ30 versions have direct-acting mechanical bucket (DAMB) tappets. Output is 232 hp (173 kW) at 6750 rpm with 220 ft·lbf (298 N·m) of torque at 4500 rpm.
- RFF - The Taurus/Sable/Escape version uses roller finger followers (RFF) instead and produces 201 hp (150 kW) at 5900 rpm with 207 ft·lbf (281 N·m) of torque at 4400 rpm.
A Twin-turbocharged version of this engine is used in the Noble M400, a British supercar. The engine is rebuilt and tuned to a max power of 425 bhp (317 kW) @ 6500 rpm, with a torque figure of 390 ft·lbf (530 N·m) @ 5000 rpm. Noble has used forged pistons, an oil cooler, a larger baffled oil sump and extra cooling ducts to maintain its durability.
Mazda's MZI version adds variable valve timing, as does Jaguar's AJ30. Note that the MZI name is also used in Europe on Mazda's version of the Ford Sigma I4. The 3.0 L, 226 hp (169 kW) V6 used in the Mondeo ST220 is called Duratec ST. The 3.0 L, 204 hp (152 kW) V6 in the Mondeo Titanium is called Duratec SE.
Oh and also...
The primary engineering input came from Porsche, who were developing a similar V6 before selling the engineering to Ford, and Cosworth, who helped with cylinder head manufacturing. They were also used in the Ford Cougar.
Do some research before you embarrass yourself with asinine comments like the above. As far as my Maxima being stock, I just bought it, on the to-do list is:
Cattman y-pipe
UDP
Eibach Prokit springs
Tokico Blues struts (id prefer illuminas but they may not fit in the budget)
FSTB
RSB
Let me guess? On yours you hit up ricersRus and threw on some body pieces? Because it sure sounds like it from your post. You are a shame to the .org. Do yourself a favor, go buy a civic and join some ricer forum and get the **** out.
Oh yes, and I forgot one thing, while on the topic of your post, who actually is laughing at who? I have done my fair share of axle replacements in the past, never before have I wedged a leaf spring in there and pounded it with a sledge. Yikes..if you want to laugh at the fact that my previous car was a Taurus wagon, just think about the fact that the transmission and both axles in it are in tip top shape while you are tearing your tranny apart trying to fish out that snap ring......whos laughing at who now?
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Geeze, I post up what I did to more easily change my fuel filter to help out other people and I get a flippin flame fest....you guys have got to be kidding me.
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i have abs, yes it is a pain in the booty. takes A LOT of patience. i found that removing the output hose from the hard fuel line rather than pulling the hose off of the filter made it somewhat easier.
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i definitely dont have large hands and i have abs. change my fuel filter with a zx one in ten minutes including relieving time in march, maybe its jus me.
oh and double posting instead of editing ur post will get you flamed but hey.... do you man
oh and double posting instead of editing ur post will get you flamed but hey.... do you man
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+1 i have abs and changed it to the zx filter in less then 10 min. It was a little stuck on but it came with some work. To his defence he posted 200 hp not 200whp so a dyno of 180 whp could be about 200 at the fly
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Thanks for the info. I could have used it last night. I changed the fuel filter out and it took me way longer than it should have. The hoses were stuck on there as if somone glued them on. The whole time I was *****ing why they could not put the fuel filter on the frame rail like other cars. I could hardly get one of my hands down there to get to the fuel filter. I love when poeple post "I could do it in 10 minutes", well then come on over!
John
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hey guess i was being ignorant to the fact that im a bit at an advantage with my height (6'4") i can see how it can be awkward to reach.
to get the top hose out i found i had to crank the starter A LOT of times to relieve all the pressure. it kept starting even without the fuel pump fuse in. maybe try cranking more
to get the top hose out i found i had to crank the starter A LOT of times to relieve all the pressure. it kept starting even without the fuel pump fuse in. maybe try cranking more
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I don't have ABS and that is what I had to do, unbolted everthing up to the TB....
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I literally just got back from changing my fuel filter...its a pain in the *** but I got it without removing anything. I have a short ram intake so no big airbox. I also relieved the fuel pressure which seemed to help. The hardest part is getting a philips on the hose clamps to loosen them. I have ABS too.
my arms are all cut up now tho but eh...
oh ya, 300zx FF ftw!
my arms are all cut up now tho but eh...
oh ya, 300zx FF ftw!
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As for the Taurus there was no point in having it dynoed, it wasn't a fast car, there is no cheap aftermarket, the only way to add power is pretty much a tune to get rid of the horrible Ford ECU programming that goes waaaaay too safe, a custom fabricated UDP, a custom fabricated y-pipe, and boring out the intake butterflies. Not to mention the AX4N transaxles on those things were absolutely horrid. The whole car was solid and reliable with the exception of that damn transmission, not only that they had huge drivetrain losses too. If I had to guess the Taurus 200 at the crank was really probably only 160-165 whp. In fact that is what most people dynoed at.
Either way, I absolutely hate automatics, which is why I bought a 5sp Maxima.
I was never trying to argue that my Taurus station wagon was a fast car, it just bugged me that an uneducated individual called BS on the 200 crank horsepower which is fact..... Not to mention he also is post whoring in a thread like a newbie contributing absolutely no relevant information. Oh well enough of that, if I had known some people were so sensitive I would have only listed my Maxima in my sig.... Maybe to make people feel better I'll list my previous previous car before the Taurus, a 1989 Sentra XE sport coupe with a whopping 90 crank horsepower. That should make people feel a little less defensive lol.
hey guess i was being ignorant to the fact that im a bit at an advantage with my height (6'4") i can see how it can be awkward to reach.
to get the top hose out i found i had to crank the starter A LOT of times to relieve all the pressure. it kept starting even without the fuel pump fuse in. maybe try cranking more
to get the top hose out i found i had to crank the starter A LOT of times to relieve all the pressure. it kept starting even without the fuel pump fuse in. maybe try cranking more
Just another tip. Dip a rag in boiling water and wrap it over the hose for a minute. Softens up the rubber making pulling it off MUCH easier.
Very true. I use a blowdryer to do the same thing.
I literally just got back from changing my fuel filter...its a pain in the *** but I got it without removing anything. I have a short ram intake so no big airbox. I also relieved the fuel pressure which seemed to help. The hardest part is getting a philips on the hose clamps to loosen them. I have ABS too.
my arms are all cut up now tho but eh...
oh ya, 300zx FF ftw!
my arms are all cut up now tho but eh...
oh ya, 300zx FF ftw!
And yes, 300zx fuel filter FTW. I am surprised mine fit in that clamp/bracket thingy on the firewall too, the 300zx filter is quite a bit larger than the stock one!
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I also have ABS, and yes getting in there is a lot harder. The non-ABS owners just don't understand, it's ok. I still found that removing the intake and working from above was best.
The hoses tend to be glued solid to the filter. Just spray some PB blaster or other penetrating oil and use a pliers to work the hose slightly starting at the filter end of the stuck hose. As you work the hose the penetrating oil will release the grip of the hose, so with just a little gentle twisting of the hose it will come completely loose.
Now if you want a fun fuel filter change, try a 3rd gen RX-7. It's above the differential in the rear, and there is only room to get one arm on each side of the diff, so you basically have to work while hugging the diff and the gas pours down into your armpits. +10pts if you do it after driving for an hour.
Dave
The hoses tend to be glued solid to the filter. Just spray some PB blaster or other penetrating oil and use a pliers to work the hose slightly starting at the filter end of the stuck hose. As you work the hose the penetrating oil will release the grip of the hose, so with just a little gentle twisting of the hose it will come completely loose.
Now if you want a fun fuel filter change, try a 3rd gen RX-7. It's above the differential in the rear, and there is only room to get one arm on each side of the diff, so you basically have to work while hugging the diff and the gas pours down into your armpits. +10pts if you do it after driving for an hour.
Dave
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Ha, funny! I JUST changed my fuel filter and replaced it with a 300z filter. It took me about 15 minutes but I had to remove the STUPID spring bracket for the original filter so I had room to work with the new oversized filter. The trick to doing the job is being physically flexible and skilled with your hands and knowing to use a lubricant on the fuel line connections to get the bigger tubes into the little hose. Something like the KY gel your girlfriend uses when I come to town!
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Umm.....wow. +1 and thumbs up for you and useful posts on the .org. [/sarcasm]
Do some research of the 3.0 Liter Duratec V6 back in 1996. 3 liter dual overhead cam, it had primary and secondary intake ports on each cylinder, one was closed below 3500RPM for better torque and above 3500 the butterflies snap open for better high RPM breathing. Yes, that is a somewhat variable intake manifold.
In fact here are some interesting facts on the engine:
Note the end part...it is twin turbocharged and they use it in the Noble sports cars. The reason? Not only is it capable of taking forced induction, it is one of the most lightweight 3.0 V6's of the 90's and even today.
Oh and also...
I might also note that this engine was on Wards 10 best engines list as well.
Do some research before you embarrass yourself with asinine comments like the above. As far as my Maxima being stock, I just bought it, on the to-do list is:
Cattman y-pipe
UDP
Eibach Prokit springs
Tokico Blues struts (id prefer illuminas but they may not fit in the budget)
FSTB
RSB
Let me guess? On yours you hit up ricersRus and threw on some body pieces? Because it sure sounds like it from your post. You are a shame to the .org. Do yourself a favor, go buy a civic and join some ricer forum and get the **** out.
Oh yes, and I forgot one thing, while on the topic of your post, who actually is laughing at who? I have done my fair share of axle replacements in the past, never before have I wedged a leaf spring in there and pounded it with a sledge. Yikes..if you want to laugh at the fact that my previous car was a Taurus wagon, just think about the fact that the transmission and both axles in it are in tip top shape while you are tearing your tranny apart trying to fish out that snap ring......whos laughing at who now?
Do some research of the 3.0 Liter Duratec V6 back in 1996. 3 liter dual overhead cam, it had primary and secondary intake ports on each cylinder, one was closed below 3500RPM for better torque and above 3500 the butterflies snap open for better high RPM breathing. Yes, that is a somewhat variable intake manifold.
In fact here are some interesting facts on the engine:
Note the end part...it is twin turbocharged and they use it in the Noble sports cars. The reason? Not only is it capable of taking forced induction, it is one of the most lightweight 3.0 V6's of the 90's and even today.
Oh and also...
I might also note that this engine was on Wards 10 best engines list as well.
Do some research before you embarrass yourself with asinine comments like the above. As far as my Maxima being stock, I just bought it, on the to-do list is:
Cattman y-pipe
UDP
Eibach Prokit springs
Tokico Blues struts (id prefer illuminas but they may not fit in the budget)
FSTB
RSB
Let me guess? On yours you hit up ricersRus and threw on some body pieces? Because it sure sounds like it from your post. You are a shame to the .org. Do yourself a favor, go buy a civic and join some ricer forum and get the **** out.
Oh yes, and I forgot one thing, while on the topic of your post, who actually is laughing at who? I have done my fair share of axle replacements in the past, never before have I wedged a leaf spring in there and pounded it with a sledge. Yikes..if you want to laugh at the fact that my previous car was a Taurus wagon, just think about the fact that the transmission and both axles in it are in tip top shape while you are tearing your tranny apart trying to fish out that snap ring......whos laughing at who now?
But man SHO's are fast....
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