Give Gas, she stalls....help
11-09-2008, 05:38 PM
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Give Gas, she stalls....help
It seems now that I have my CAI installed when I give it gas it stalls or wants to stall...it doesn't make sense. I know My Maf sensor is no good and I unplugged it, but why is the car stalling when I give it gas? Like reving it over 4000 rpm's. This is frustrating. I thougth it was the kinks in the hoses but I fixed that and now it still stalls....any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance
11-09-2008, 05:45 PM
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i'm quite sure it isn't the maf cause I have it unplugged, and the only performance parts I have it the intake. I know there wouldn't be much power when the maf is unplugged, but when i give it gas it shouldn't stall...
11-09-2008, 05:47 PM
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It seems now that I have my CAI installed when I give it gas it stalls or wants to stall...it doesn't make sense. I know My Maf sensor is no good and I unplugged it, but why is the car stalling when I give it gas? Like reving it over 4000 rpm's. This is frustrating. I thougth it was the kinks in the hoses but I fixed that and now it still stalls....any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance
11-09-2008, 05:55 PM
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I don't know if this will help in any conclusions but yesterday when i tried it with the maf plugged in i gave it gas and i heard a "pop" sound. An injector wouldn't make a pop if it blew would it?
11-09-2008, 07:12 PM
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hmm.. sounds like an air/fuel problem.. i had a s/c thunderbird and without my maf it would backfire out of the exhaust when i would rev it high in neutral and let off.. no maf would make the idle ****ty sometimes as well. i dont think an injector would make a popping sound. when did this problem start occuring? before you unpluged the maf, a little while after, long time after? does it misfire? at high R's in gear does it seem to bogg out or skip?
11-09-2008, 07:15 PM
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backfiring is making me think it has something to do with too much fuel.. im assuming check engine light is on because the maf.. but have you scanned the car to see what other codes it may have thrown?
11-10-2008, 03:56 AM
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Ok..I have another Maf off of a GXE I own and I can try that, but, it only started happening after the maf went really. I hooked up the CAI, busted the MAF, left it unplugged and it idled smoothly and she'll idle smoothly right now, but when i give it gas it'll sputter a bit and then stall. And when it do rev up for me, it doesn't rev higher than say 4000 or so and then it sounds like air is coming (puffing sound) back through the intake or somewhere in that area...
11-10-2008, 04:04 AM
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also, I forgot to mention...there is no CEL, doesn't misfire really..it'll either rev up and make the puffing sound, or stall as soon as I put the gas down. Even if the maf IS bad, it should still be able to run shouldn't it? Maybe the CAI is giving to much AIR?
11-10-2008, 04:26 AM
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I just F'd my MAF and it acts VERY similarly however, it does not stall. I only get to about 2500 RPM before she sputters like mad. I AM getting 0304 code for KS which I had just replaced a few months ago....hoping a new MAF will cure.
Hopefully, the other MAF helps!
Hopefully, the other MAF helps!
11-10-2008, 05:09 AM
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Cliff notes for this thread:
Guy installs an intake, the maf goes bad, car runs poorly, verified the maf is bad, car still runs like crap, asked the org what to do knowing the maf is bad, car still runs like crap.
Seriously.... CHANGE THE MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR!
You were better off with the stock intake anyway, it gives the best throttle response.
Guy installs an intake, the maf goes bad, car runs poorly, verified the maf is bad, car still runs like crap, asked the org what to do knowing the maf is bad, car still runs like crap.
Seriously.... CHANGE THE MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR!
You were better off with the stock intake anyway, it gives the best throttle response.
11-10-2008, 05:18 AM
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Cliff notes for this thread:
Guy installs an intake, the maf goes bad, car runs poorly, verified the maf is bad, car still runs like crap, asked the org what to do knowing the maf is bad, car still runs like crap.
Seriously.... CHANGE THE MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR!
You were better off with the stock intake anyway, it gives the best throttle response.
Guy installs an intake, the maf goes bad, car runs poorly, verified the maf is bad, car still runs like crap, asked the org what to do knowing the maf is bad, car still runs like crap.
Seriously.... CHANGE THE MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR!
You were better off with the stock intake anyway, it gives the best throttle response.
11-10-2008, 06:35 AM
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Do you only just spray the plugs(male and female)?
I assume you do not spray at the resistor?
Thanks
11-10-2008, 09:41 AM
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i dont think the stock intake is the best though... there seems to be alot of restrictions. wouldnt a stillen or nismo be the best intake?
but to stay on topic.. try a diffrent maf, either way you need one right? if its not that then see what it does from there, im sure the maf will deffinatly do something.
but to stay on topic.. try a diffrent maf, either way you need one right? if its not that then see what it does from there, im sure the maf will deffinatly do something.
11-10-2008, 10:11 AM
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i dont think the stock intake is the best though... there seems to be alot of restrictions. wouldnt a stillen or nismo be the best intake?
but to stay on topic.. try a diffrent maf, either way you need one right? if its not that then see what it does from there, im sure the maf will deffinatly do something.
but to stay on topic.. try a diffrent maf, either way you need one right? if its not that then see what it does from there, im sure the maf will deffinatly do something.
11-10-2008, 04:02 PM
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On all cars I have worked on that I have accidentally left the MAF unplugged, they all usually sputter and/or stall when I give it gas. It makes sense, the engine can't detect that more air is going in, thus it can't appropriately control the mixture. The more gas you give it, the more you screw up the mixture thus the more likely you will stall it. I assume modern cars like the Maxima have some sort of an a/f map so it can generally know what to do based on the TPS, but it may not be accurate enough.
11-10-2008, 07:35 PM
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On all cars I have worked on that I have accidentally left the MAF unplugged, they all usually sputter and/or stall when I give it gas. It makes sense, the engine can't detect that more air is going in, thus it can't appropriately control the mixture. The more gas you give it, the more you screw up the mixture thus the more likely you will stall it. I assume modern cars like the Maxima have some sort of an a/f map so it can generally know what to do based on the TPS, but it may not be accurate enough.
Just out of curiosity ( off topic ) does anyone know about how long it would take to drop a 5 speed out of a car...i have th step by step instructioons...but a time frame would be nice so I can do it before sundown
11-10-2008, 10:21 PM
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check to make sure you didn't switch the maf and boost sensor connectors around, there the only connectors that are the same on the whole damn car and u probably removed both during the intake install.
11-11-2008, 11:39 AM
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Ok....i figured out one way to do it...lol...go to my profile and i've put the pics in an album with the same same as this thread...have a look and let me know what ya think
11-11-2008, 12:04 PM
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ok...i just put in the maf from my other parts car and no change...my altinator squeels but the lights are still strong. when the maf is plugged in, i can start it and keep reving it up but as soon as i let go of the peddle it will stall. When the Maf is unplugged, it will stay idling ut when i give it gas it will stall...i'm getting very close to getting rid of the car...the maf that was on it before was pretty new.....ugh check my profile for pics of it to see anything wrong...i can't figure anything out
11-11-2008, 04:49 PM
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Yes it will idle fine with the MAF unplugged, and stall if gas is applied when the MAF is disconnected. This is normal. What would make you think otherwise?????????????????????? You just can't start disconnecting stuff and expect your car to run normal w/ or w/o gas. I'm shocked no one has mentioned this.
Weren't you the guy would recently yanked the MAF wiring from the MAF and screwed it up? If so, then I bet your connections on the harness side of MAF wiring our messed up. Check those and report back. It's either your MAF, or wiring. Plain and simple.
11-11-2008, 05:25 PM
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First of all, you have to have a good working MAF in the system.
Yes it will idle fine with the MAF unplugged, and stall if gas is applied when the MAF is disconnected. This is normal. What would make you think otherwise?????????????????????? You just can't start disconnecting stuff and expect your car to run normal w/ or w/o gas. I'm shocked no one has mentioned this.
Weren't you the guy would recently yanked the MAF wiring from the MAF and screwed it up? If so, then I bet your connections on the harness side of MAF wiring our messed up. Check those and report back. It's either your MAF, or wiring. Plain and simple.
Yes it will idle fine with the MAF unplugged, and stall if gas is applied when the MAF is disconnected. This is normal. What would make you think otherwise?????????????????????? You just can't start disconnecting stuff and expect your car to run normal w/ or w/o gas. I'm shocked no one has mentioned this.
Weren't you the guy would recently yanked the MAF wiring from the MAF and screwed it up? If so, then I bet your connections on the harness side of MAF wiring our messed up. Check those and report back. It's either your MAF, or wiring. Plain and simple.
11-11-2008, 07:03 PM
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First of all, you have to have a good working MAF in the system.
Yes it will idle fine with the MAF unplugged, and stall if gas is applied when the MAF is disconnected. This is normal. What would make you think otherwise?????????????????????? You just can't start disconnecting stuff and expect your car to run normal w/ or w/o gas. I'm shocked no one has mentioned this.
Weren't you the guy would recently yanked the MAF wiring from the MAF and screwed it up? If so, then I bet your connections on the harness side of MAF wiring our messed up. Check those and report back. It's either your MAF, or wiring. Plain and simple.
Yes it will idle fine with the MAF unplugged, and stall if gas is applied when the MAF is disconnected. This is normal. What would make you think otherwise?????????????????????? You just can't start disconnecting stuff and expect your car to run normal w/ or w/o gas. I'm shocked no one has mentioned this.
Weren't you the guy would recently yanked the MAF wiring from the MAF and screwed it up? If so, then I bet your connections on the harness side of MAF wiring our messed up. Check those and report back. It's either your MAF, or wiring. Plain and simple.
11-11-2008, 07:07 PM
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i was told the car could be driven witht he maf unplugged but just wouldn't have any power above 2500rpms...i'm not just assuming things. I just find it weird that with it unplugged it will idle fine but stall when gas is applied and when it is plugged in it will stall then idling but stay going if i keep on the gas...i'm not saying i'm a mechanic or anything...far from it actually, but i'd like to just be able to drive my car....if the IAT sensor is broken, will it cause these symptoms? Like if one of the 2 wires is broken off?
Also, you had no problems before you installed the CAI, right? If so, then retrace your steps, you're missing something.
11-12-2008, 04:18 AM
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Check my profile and look at my pics of the intake to see if there are any obvious problems...
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11-12-2008, 08:41 AM
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I seen something on youtube where a guy was fixing a MAF sensor. There were 3 wires soldered onto 3 seperate lines type things. It showed the soldering cracked on 2 of the 3 lines and therefore there was no power, stumbling and power loss..maybe I should check that out as well?
Anyone ever open up a MAF before?
Anyone ever open up a MAF before?
11-12-2008, 10:41 AM
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First of all, you have to have a good working MAF in the system.
Yes it will idle fine with the MAF unplugged, and stall if gas is applied when the MAF is disconnected. This is normal. What would make you think otherwise?????????????????????? You just can't start disconnecting stuff and expect your car to run normal w/ or w/o gas. I'm shocked no one has mentioned this.
Weren't you the guy would recently yanked the MAF wiring from the MAF and screwed it up? If so, then I bet your connections on the harness side of MAF wiring our messed up. Check those and report back. It's either your MAF, or wiring. Plain and simple.
Yes it will idle fine with the MAF unplugged, and stall if gas is applied when the MAF is disconnected. This is normal. What would make you think otherwise?????????????????????? You just can't start disconnecting stuff and expect your car to run normal w/ or w/o gas. I'm shocked no one has mentioned this.
Weren't you the guy would recently yanked the MAF wiring from the MAF and screwed it up? If so, then I bet your connections on the harness side of MAF wiring our messed up. Check those and report back. It's either your MAF, or wiring. Plain and simple.
On all cars I have worked on that I have accidentally left the MAF unplugged, they all usually sputter and/or stall when I give it gas. It makes sense, the engine can't detect that more air is going in, thus it can't appropriately control the mixture. The more gas you give it, the more you screw up the mixture thus the more likely you will stall it.
All the problems above lead me to believe it is a bad MAF sensor. I say save yourself the headache and find a good MAF sensor to try out and see if it fixes your problems.
11-12-2008, 12:26 PM
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I mentioned it:
The MAF is one of the most crucial sensors as far as the engine's operation and control of the mixture goes.
All the problems above lead me to believe it is a bad MAF sensor. I say save yourself the headache and find a good MAF sensor to try out and see if it fixes your problems.
The MAF is one of the most crucial sensors as far as the engine's operation and control of the mixture goes.
All the problems above lead me to believe it is a bad MAF sensor. I say save yourself the headache and find a good MAF sensor to try out and see if it fixes your problems.
I know it is crusial to the performance of an engine, and i'm hoping a new one will do the trick...
11-12-2008, 12:40 PM
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dude just buy a new one i know there expensive but it will just be a better investment to get it now that way if the thing actually goes completley out you dont have to search for a new one. plus i dont think this will change anything but take off your filter and see if theres anything huge trapt in it or maybe something got through it and caught in your maf who knows either way your going to need a new maf soon