Does anyone with an intake wish they would have kept it stock and just added k&N...
#1
Does anyone with an intake wish they would have kept it stock and just added k&N...
I have a 97se 5sp with a Budget Y and K&N Filter and stock exhaust. After hearing many opinions about loosing lowend with all intakes I am concerned but I must admit the sound of the intake on the videos from the NE sound SWEET I also have heard that the loss is not as great on a 5sp as it is in an Automagic. Let's just assume that a CAI is not an option, I am going to add either an intake or some type of bolt on muffler. What are your opinions?
Thanks in advance,
Pat
Thanks in advance,
Pat
#2
Intake.
With the stock airbox, you get low end back but lose top end. With the intake, you loose slightly with the low end, but make up for it with the top end. I'll take the top end because the loss isn't that bad.
With the stock airbox, you get low end back but lose top end. With the intake, you loose slightly with the low end, but make up for it with the top end. I'll take the top end because the loss isn't that bad.
#11
Originally posted by Craig Mack
Either way a simple Pop-charger isn't gonna do much.
Either way a simple Pop-charger isn't gonna do much.
#12
Originally posted by Nealoc187
I disagree. I gain .75 mph in the traps by removing my stock air filter from the airbox. It's a very obvious gain, last time I was at the track i trapped about 95.75 every time I ran with my stock filter in the box. When I removed it, I consistently trapped at 96.25-96.5. I'd say a real intake will do even more than that, probably on the order of 1mph in the traps.
I disagree. I gain .75 mph in the traps by removing my stock air filter from the airbox. It's a very obvious gain, last time I was at the track i trapped about 95.75 every time I ran with my stock filter in the box. When I removed it, I consistently trapped at 96.25-96.5. I'd say a real intake will do even more than that, probably on the order of 1mph in the traps.
#13
Originally posted by dwapenyi
I went from stock to K&N panel to CAI. No regrets. Didn't feel a low end loss, either.
DW
I went from stock to K&N panel to CAI. No regrets. Didn't feel a low end loss, either.
DW
Most people here have reported a slight loss of low end w/ pop chargers and a slight loss of top end w/ CAI. They both involve some compromise - it just depends where you want it.
#14
Originally posted by KWheelzSB
You mean you were running the strip w/ no filtration? Open intake? Yikes.
You mean you were running the strip w/ no filtration? Open intake? Yikes.
#15
I've dynoed with the HKS intake and with a modified stock airbox. My modified stock airbox had all the resonators removed and a K&N drop in filter panel. With the HKS intake I dynoed 176fwhp and 194fwtq. With Poorman's CAI I dynoed 174fwhp and 193fwtq. Peak hp and tq occured at the nearly the same rpms in both tests, but with the HKS intake, power held on much longer after peak which is better for drag racing simply because you typically shift ~500rpms after peak in gears 1 and 2.
From what I've seen on the dyno, there is absolutely no loss in lowend tq or hp with a POP style intake.
Dave
From what I've seen on the dyno, there is absolutely no loss in lowend tq or hp with a POP style intake.
Dave
#16
Originally posted by Dave B
I've dynoed with the HKS intake and with a modified stock airbox. My modified stock airbox had all the resonators removed and a K&N drop in filter panel. With the HKS intake I dynoed 176fwhp and 194fwtq. With Poorman's CAI I dynoed 174fwhp and 193fwtq. Peak hp and tq occured at the nearly the same rpms in both tests, but with the HKS intake, power held on much longer after peak which is better for drag racing simply because you typically shift ~500rpms after peak in gears 1 and 2.
From what I've seen on the dyno, there is absolutely no loss in lowend tq or hp with a POP style intake.
Dave
I've dynoed with the HKS intake and with a modified stock airbox. My modified stock airbox had all the resonators removed and a K&N drop in filter panel. With the HKS intake I dynoed 176fwhp and 194fwtq. With Poorman's CAI I dynoed 174fwhp and 193fwtq. Peak hp and tq occured at the nearly the same rpms in both tests, but with the HKS intake, power held on much longer after peak which is better for drag racing simply because you typically shift ~500rpms after peak in gears 1 and 2.
From what I've seen on the dyno, there is absolutely no loss in lowend tq or hp with a POP style intake.
Dave
This certainly reinforces the value of the pop-charger style intake: measured performance gain, low cost, low-hassle, non-invasive install, low water-induction likelihood, great sound, etc.
#17
The main reason I got the POP Charger vs the CAI is because I really didn't wanna drill a hole in my wheel well. I think the CAI provides slightly better performance, but when I go to sell the car and return it back to stock, who wants to see a 3 inch hole in their wheel well?
I mean I guess a person could just leave the CAI in there when they are selling the car, but I think the best way to maximize your profits from selling is take out all the mods, sell the stock car, and sell the mods separately....
I mean I guess a person could just leave the CAI in there when they are selling the car, but I think the best way to maximize your profits from selling is take out all the mods, sell the stock car, and sell the mods separately....
#18
I went from a Pop-charger back to the stock air box, and I did this because the pop-charger made too much noise, to the degree that I got pulled over three times by cops just because I floored it a little. The max is supposed to be a sleeper and with the Pop-charger it loses that.
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