Update....New Starter installed same problem....need help
10-19-2009, 05:35 AM
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I had to go through 2 starters to get a good one, go oem, theres not many options, when some children are paid 1$ a month to fix parts, it doesnt get done right. simple
i bought a reman starter. **** out after 4 months, same things you have, with the teeth not fully engaging. i got a used one from a member and its been better than the reman.
also, i started with 11 teeth on my stock and im down to 8 because 96's have 8 teeth on their manuals.
btw this is not resurrecting. its not even a month old!
while your down there make sure you get another ground on your starter to the tranny. mine didnt have the problems associated with having a bad ground but, a lil preventive act never hurt anybody.
i bought a reman starter. **** out after 4 months, same things you have, with the teeth not fully engaging. i got a used one from a member and its been better than the reman.
also, i started with 11 teeth on my stock and im down to 8 because 96's have 8 teeth on their manuals.
btw this is not resurrecting. its not even a month old!
while your down there make sure you get another ground on your starter to the tranny. mine didnt have the problems associated with having a bad ground but, a lil preventive act never hurt anybody.
10-19-2009, 08:14 PM
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10-19-2009, 10:09 PM
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Arrrggghhhh!!, get this guys, i just ran outside in the cold decided to pull this starter off right quick so i could get a look at it before i take it back tues. and..........the freakin thing is stuck to the housing!!
I made sure i removed the right bolts lol, and yes there both out and I can't make it budge a inch, i pulled with all i got and it will not move. Its like its still bolted to the housing!! wtf?????
last time it just fell right off as soon as i pulled the last bolt out.
I even tryed prying with a ratchet handle and nothing. Any suggestions?
I made sure i removed the right bolts lol, and yes there both out and I can't make it budge a inch, i pulled with all i got and it will not move. Its like its still bolted to the housing!! wtf?????
last time it just fell right off as soon as i pulled the last bolt out.
I even tryed prying with a ratchet handle and nothing. Any suggestions?
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10-19-2009, 11:03 PM
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Hmm... could the grinding how had somehow fused or because something got wedged in a position where it shouldn't be?
This grinding noise is a perplexing problem, I all of a sudden for the past few months have had this grinding noise just like you when I try to crank the car, and usually it just dies after making that sound, but on the days where I don't car and just hold down the key it keeps cranking after the noise and then starts.
This grinding noise is a perplexing problem, I all of a sudden for the past few months have had this grinding noise just like you when I try to crank the car, and usually it just dies after making that sound, but on the days where I don't car and just hold down the key it keeps cranking after the noise and then starts.
Arrrggghhhh!!, get this guys, i just ran outside in the cold decided to pull this starter off right quick so i could get a look at it before i take it back tues. and..........the freakin thing is stuck to the housing!!
I made sure i removed the right bolts lol, and yes there both out and I can't make it budge a inch, i pulled with all i got and it will not move. Its like its still bolted to the housing!! wtf?????
last time it just fell right off as soon as i pulled the last bolt out.
I even tryed prying with a ratchet handle and nothing. Any suggestions?
I made sure i removed the right bolts lol, and yes there both out and I can't make it budge a inch, i pulled with all i got and it will not move. Its like its still bolted to the housing!! wtf?????
last time it just fell right off as soon as i pulled the last bolt out.
I even tryed prying with a ratchet handle and nothing. Any suggestions?
10-20-2009, 09:22 AM
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I'm just as confused but the starter must come out one way or another. Tricky part will be getting it out without damaging the starter itself or the transmission. Im gonna let someone else take a look at it before i go banging and prying 
10-20-2009, 09:56 AM
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Double check that you took the right bolts out lmao. I cant tell you how many times I've been prying on something that still had a bolt or two in it.
Have you tried lightly "hammering" downwards on it? I've had some mildly stuck starters that I could put my weight on and they came loose. If you dont understand what im saying, I mean rather than trying to pull it towards the driver side, try wiggling up and down on it vertically.
Have you tried lightly "hammering" downwards on it? I've had some mildly stuck starters that I could put my weight on and they came loose. If you dont understand what im saying, I mean rather than trying to pull it towards the driver side, try wiggling up and down on it vertically.
10-20-2009, 11:14 AM
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Double check that you took the right bolts out lmao. I cant tell you how many times I've been prying on something that still had a bolt or two in it.
Have you tried lightly "hammering" downwards on it? I've had some mildly stuck starters that I could put my weight on and they came loose. If you dont understand what im saying, I mean rather than trying to pull it towards the driver side, try wiggling up and down on it vertically.
Have you tried lightly "hammering" downwards on it? I've had some mildly stuck starters that I could put my weight on and they came loose. If you dont understand what im saying, I mean rather than trying to pull it towards the driver side, try wiggling up and down on it vertically.
Here's the empty bolt holes and the two bolts I removed!
10-21-2009, 05:28 PM
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Im still stuck on this. Someone told me that the gear on the starter prob. got stuck engaged and basically burnt itself onto the flywheel?? How and the he** can i get it off the car? This is really a strange problem to me, i dunno.
10-21-2009, 06:16 PM
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Can you spin the engine from the crank pulley, or does it act like it's seized up?
10-21-2009, 06:31 PM
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That was my next move, but I ran outta time. Would turning the crank pulley maybe free it from the flywheel? Do you know right of hand what size bolt that crank pulley is? If it does act siezed up, what would that mean? Thanks man!!
10-21-2009, 07:02 PM
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IIRC it's a 19mm head bolt.
10-22-2009, 09:28 AM
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Soon as I get time this week, i'll see if the motor turns. Which way should I turn the bolt? clock or counter clockwise? Also, would it matter if it was in gear or should it be in neutral? Yes, i know nothing about auto transmissions 
I'm pretty sure it's locked, it's only started the car maybe 25-30 times in it's 2 week life time and acts to be dead. I just replaced the ignition switch and the battery so everything on that end is new.
I'm pretty sure it's locked, it's only started the car maybe 25-30 times in it's 2 week life time and acts to be dead. I just replaced the ignition switch and the battery so everything on that end is new.
10-22-2009, 10:16 AM
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Soon as I get time this week, i'll see if the motor turns. Which way should I turn the bolt? clock or counter clockwise? Also, would it matter if it was in gear or should it be in neutral? Yes, i know nothing about auto transmissions
I'm pretty sure it's locked, it's only started the car maybe 25-30 times in it's 2 week life time and acts to be dead. I just replaced the ignition switch and the battery so everything on that end is new.
I'm pretty sure it's locked, it's only started the car maybe 25-30 times in it's 2 week life time and acts to be dead. I just replaced the ignition switch and the battery so everything on that end is new.
The car wont turn over period? Hell man, u might as well start banging the starter then. I dont even get how it would get stuck. But i have thought ur flywheel was worn for some time now. For the starter to not move then it must be lodge against somethin. Unless the teeth for the flywheel are lodged onto the inside housing of the starter?? But im speculating and not really providing useful info...Hey man at some point gotta jus bite the bullet and start bangin at it. Unless u can somehow turn the driveshaft inside the engine...but then if the flywheel is truly lodged to the starter ... man this sucks!!! sorry bro
10-22-2009, 10:24 PM
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Only reason i have not whaled on it is b/c I figure the parts store won't exchange it if it's all beat up. We all know how those parts store exchanges go. As far as a driveshaft in the engine goes, I really don't know what that means LOL. What I meant by that is if I turn the engine over manually via the crank pulley nut hopefully the starter teeth will disengage enough for me to beat the damn starter out
This is such a strange problem, I never even knew a starter could do this
This is such a strange problem, I never even knew a starter could do this
10-23-2009, 07:56 AM
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Take a good size piece of wood, place it in an area where the starter won't crack and hammer on the wood. You may want to secure the starter slighly with one of the bolts so it does not fall. I just replaced my starter a couple of months ago and it is hard to believe it could be stuck like that. Maybe the starter did not engage properly and got stuck.
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10-23-2009, 11:18 AM
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Take a good size piece of wood, place it in an area where the starter won't crack and hammer on the wood. You may want to secure the starter slighly with one of the bolts so it does not fall. I just replaced my starter a couple of months ago and it is hard to believe it could be stuck like that. Maybe the starter did not engage properly and got stuck.
However I still want to try to turn the motor over manually before I go hammering. Thanks for the help, any is appreciated! The org is the best
10-23-2009, 09:53 PM
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Now if i could get through this weekend of work maybe i'll have time to work on it again
04-17-2010, 02:27 AM
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That could work, but where the car is currently sitting it would be extremely difficult to get underneath, even with a jack. I had to push it to where it sits now, after all these yrs of reliablity it felt bad having to push it to where I needed it to go Now if i could get through this weekend of work maybe i'll have time to work on it again
Now if i could get through this weekend of work maybe i'll have time to work on it again 
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