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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Aftermarket HID

I have aftermarket HID kit install in my car several years back. In the beginning its pretty bright with a slight tint of blue but now it has slight shade of yellow. When its turn on, it goes from slight blue to slight yellow. Does anybody know if any good lens cleaner will do the job with some waxing of sand paper?
or maybe I need to clean the inside of the lens?
Any feedback will be good!
Old Apr 23, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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the heat of the light controls the color. maybe the amount of heat to the bulb changes to the amount required to be yellow after a little while.
Old Apr 23, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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More than likely your bulbs are starting to wear. The plastic lenses can develop a haze on the outside, which can be fixed with this, but shouldn't really affect the color output.
Old Apr 23, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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I would say your bulbs are wearing due to the color changing yellow. However, I would see if you can clean the housing before purchasing any new bulbs .
Old Apr 23, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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I agree with bkortee and AEMAXIMA01
Try just buffing it out with the 3M kit. If that doesn't do it enough, sand it, but prepared to have to put in a lot of elbow grease to get them good after sanding.

Originally Posted by Dondon321
the heat of the light controls the color. maybe the amount of heat to the bulb changes to the amount required to be yellow after a little while.
No. That's not true at all.
Old Apr 23, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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whoops, u need a lens cleaner? check my results... http://forums.maxima.org/detailing/6...t-results.html
Old Apr 24, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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Wait. You just dropped in some HID bulbs and stuff into your stock housings? How'd that work out for you, just curious...
Old Apr 24, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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seems to be wearing out
Old Apr 24, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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if you say it starts blue and eventually turns yellow, it's probably a sign the bulb is worn; as others have said.
Old Apr 24, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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I think the bulb is dying. You would think when the bulb is done it completely stops working, but this isnt the case with HID's...they will turn on and everything, but it wont be bright like when you first got em and color might start to change slightly. I saw take them both out of the housing, take the car into a garage(somewhere dark) and see how they look when on.
Old Apr 24, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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yea just look at all the acura 3.2 tl's from like 97-99 almost all of those i see have purpleish hue'd hid's from the original color. swap the bulbs.
Old Apr 24, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by goomzthegeneral
yea just look at all the acura 3.2 tl's from like 97-99 almost all of those i see have purpleish hue'd hid's from the original color. swap the bulbs.

Yup! Thats when you have to change them, they only last about 2 years before they start changing colors.
Old Apr 25, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MoMurderah
Wait. You just dropped in some HID bulbs and stuff into your stock housings? How'd that work out for you, just curious...
i myself would like to see this.
Old Apr 25, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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The problem isn't just the color, it's the lumen maintenance.

Halogen bulbs are generally capable of lasting 300-800 hours.
They light up at 95%-100% of their initial brightness, until the filament breaks and they completely stop working.

HID bulbs are capable of lasting 2,000-3,000 hours.
However, they lose lumens over time. a 1,000 hour halogen bulb is down to about 70% of its output when it was brand new. a 2,000 hour bulb is like half the original output. Usually, unless something actually breaks the bulb, they will not actually burn out, just lose lumens and colorshift.

Those old Acuras you see with pink headlights are 4300k white HID bulbs that have thousands of hours on them, to the point where they are at about a third of their initial brightness, and a vastly different color. Since most people don't realize this, they don't replace the bulbs until they actually burn out, which could be long after the lumens have dropped too low to safely use.

Because HIDs dim slowly over time, you tend to not notice it, because it changes so slowly that your eyes adapt to it. Many people with OEM HID setups that they've had for 5+ years are completely shocked when they put in brand new bulbs that are TWICE as bright as the ones they replaced.
Old Apr 26, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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i run HIDS on my stock housing.. works perfectly and no one flashed me yet
Old Apr 26, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by scmaxima
i run HIDS on my stock housing.. works perfectly and no one flashed me yet

how much it ran u for tha HIDs.... Curious... Looking to do tha same...
Old Apr 26, 2010 | 08:35 PM
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please
Old Apr 27, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 1992maximase30



please





ics:
Old Apr 27, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cashoit



ics:


I've re-aimed them since I took this picture..
Old Apr 27, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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thatsa bright light~!!! nice

Thats with the projector retro or is that stock housing???
Old Apr 27, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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thatsa bright light~!!! nice

Thats with the projector retro or is that stock housing???
It's stock housing. I've never gotten flickered by on coming drivers. I aimed them down pretty low so I won't blind people.
Old Apr 27, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mistertones


I've re-aimed them since I took this picture..
So much glare its not funny.


Hmm where did the glare go?



Omg, is that usable light? What has the world came to?
Old Apr 27, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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hmmm....i recently did the 9007 head light mod on my car.
love the output of it. the weird thing is that they're the same bulbs that i used in the 3rd gen but they dont have the blueish look to it if you look at the head light compared to the 3rd gen.
but if the light is on a car...then you'll see it.

i'm sure if mistertones took pictures like you did kzoosho it would look bad.
this made me intrested in getting some hid's myself though!
Old Apr 27, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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wait a minute. i just seen that he has a 96 se...i have a 97.
i'm assuming that's the reason he has so much glare in the picture.
is it better with the clear lens or worse?
Old Apr 27, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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It makes no difference from 95-96 or 97-99 housings. Their photometric purpose

The reason the glare doesn't look bad is because it is washing out the camera. The digital camera's CCD will only be able to handle a certain amount of light, then it will just show white. In the center, it's brighter than the camera can handle, so it doesn't look terrible, unless you compare them in person.

Just look at the light on the ground. See how bright the ground in front of Kzoosho's car is? Now look at the PnP kit. Aside from the yellow light from the fogs right off the bumper, there is almost no light on the ground.

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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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Your aftermarket bulb is going. Had the same problem.
Old Apr 28, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by nalc
It makes no difference from 95-96 or 97-99 housings. Their photometric purpose

The reason the glare doesn't look bad is because it is washing out the camera. The digital camera's CCD will only be able to handle a certain amount of light, then it will just show white. In the center, it's brighter than the camera can handle, so it doesn't look terrible, unless you compare them in person.

Just look at the light on the ground. See how bright the ground in front of Kzoosho's car is? Now look at the PnP kit. Aside from the yellow light from the fogs right off the bumper, there is almost no light on the ground.
Glad someone understands how to look at pictures . I mean if i spend money on hids i want them to be useful. Think about it like this. You wouldnt buy a turbo kit if you had the same power as before the kit would you? Now trust me some will say yea for the whistle and bov but seriously who would spend money to stay slow?

Same concept in lighting. Why spend your hard earned money to see no better. is it pretty ? Sure . Is it brighter? Yea it glares. Will you see better? Marginal to say the least but you are causing un needed danger to yourself.
Old Apr 28, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kzoosho
Glad someone understands how to look at pictures . I mean if i spend money on hids i want them to be useful. Think about it like this. You wouldnt buy a turbo kit if you had the same power as before the kit would you? Now trust me some will say yea for the whistle and bov but seriously who would spend money to stay slow?

Same concept in lighting. Why spend your hard earned money to see no better. is it pretty ? Sure . Is it brighter? Yea it glares. Will you see better? Marginal to say the least but you are causing un needed danger to yourself.
I agree with you in terms of getting proper lighting, but I don't think your turbo analogy fits. Different headlight housings will net different results, but going from halogens to HIDs provide a notable increase in lumens. How these extra lumens are dispursed and focused is the issue. In many if not most cases, lighting is improved. The problem is that this improvement is not done in an efficient and safe manner to other drivers. I couldn't see the pic of his kit, but unless we're talking 800K+ bulbs, I respectfully disagree with your example.
Old May 18, 2010 | 06:13 AM
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I have 6k hids and light output is not bad it looks great and i compared it to the halogen on one side the beam is still focused in the same place. Idk why all you guys complain about how they blind on coming drivers. Well me and my friend did a little test on a 2 lane road at night i drove his car and he drove mine and we went up and down the lanes oncoming they didnt look bad at all they really werent that bright i mean maybe a step up from halogens but no way i could say i was blinded by them not even close. Even better i got my grandfather to pass by while i drove my car he even said there was no blinding effect on his eyes. (just to see if it had a difference in age causing this "blind-ness")
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Originally Posted by Maximum-Maxima
I have 6k hids and light output is not bad it looks great and i compared it to the halogen on one side the beam is still focused in the same place. Idk why all you guys complain about how they blind on coming drivers. Well me and my friend did a little test on a 2 lane road at night i drove his car and he drove mine and we went up and down the lanes oncoming they didnt look bad at all they really werent that bright i mean maybe a step up from halogens but no way i could say i was blinded by them not even close. Even better i got my grandfather to pass by while i drove my car he even said there was no blinding effect on his eyes. (just to see if it had a difference in age causing this "blind-ness")
Post and pic of the beam and you will see what everyone is saying.
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