maxed_out_99

sup org,

ok so i did a search and found that the 3.5 and dek guys mostly do this mod.

i contacted NWP to see if a performance tb was made for our gen (the pathfinder tb seems like a hassle)

and to my surprise Aaron himself replied to my email
he told me that the inake spacers are a good mod for the vq30de

sooo....

who has them and is there a noticeable difference?
and most importantly, is it worth the money?
i was quoted $225 and dyno proven 8hp 9ft lbs of torque

aackshun

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the DE-K spacers are DE spacers modified to fit DE-K's..... I'd give it a shot, but it's a VQ30 only mod, I'm willing to try anything crazy if it'd work in the future with my swap (EG. 3" exhaust).

In for results!

darrick

im in as well want to know if this works

aackshun

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IIRC the dyno proof is from a DE and not the DE-K, the info is on the forum here.

ChrisMan287

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I felt mid-high end gains on my old 4th gen (butt dyno of course). I'd love to get some again but have to spend money elsewhere at the moment.

And aackshun is right, the dyno proof was done on the DE so go for it

hornepirate

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id like to see a DEK dyno of these. wishful thinking though lol

MaximaSpd85

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i felt a NICE gain like right at 5200 rpms. that gain is also seen on the dyno too. the general consensus/prediction is that the benefit wont be AS much on DEKs because the IM is already plastic and doesnt suffer as much from heat soak. i dont know anyone who has dynod the spacers themselves on a dek either. im sure there are gains though.

phatboislim

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thats actually incorrect. the spacers that NWP offers are FOR the VQ30DE's but can be modified to fit DE-k's. i'm planning on getting some for my DE-k here soon since i have to replace my rear valve cover

aackshun

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woops that was a typo, I meant to say DE-K's!

Flava_24/7

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I have them, and I didnt really notice any real difference with them.
However the main reason I got them was due to the OEM gasket continously blowing out from the upper intake manifold.
Using the spacers with RTV solved that issue for me.

Flava_24/7

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Very true, and with that being said they gains are not supposed to be as great due to the plastic manifold of the DEK.

Product_Of_Korea

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Not that i am against the spacers, cause in reality they are a good product from what ive seen and heard. But for the price youd be better off just throwing on a 00vi. The USIM is **** and if your going to that length you mid as well throw on a VI. But then again if you went the mevi route it wouldnt be a bad idea.

phatboislim

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sounds like an excellent reason for me to install them

The Wizard

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I have two sets. I've only installed one set though recently, and that's on my 1998 daily driver NA. What motivated me to install them was the fact that I was installing a MEVI and replacing a KS at the same time.

Unfortunately, I can't tell you if and how the gains felt, due to installing the MEVI at the same time. I can say the quality of the product is great, and the instructions are awesome too. I used the 1 minute RTV stuff in anticipation of upcoming FI. The other set will go on my boosted 99 one of these days...

Flava_24/7

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It wouldnt happen under normal driving but as soon as I began hitting peak boost it would blow out and cause a leak. Tried two new gaskets and couldnt get it to stay sealed so I just bought the spacers and they did the trick.

phatboislim

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ahhh...i dont see boosting in my future...but it wouldnt hurt to install seeing as though i have to do my rear VCs anyway

Product_Of_Korea

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I wish i had your problem lol.

I was going to say, I figured it was the boost since ive never really heard of blowing out gaskets on a vq30(n\a). But then again ive been known to be wrong.

maxed_out_99

yeah i thought hard about a 00VI but i have an auto
i really dont want to get to crazy im just looking to get some minor performance
i got mustangs to smoke
the 00VI is just too much money
i have to tune it switch the whole chet on the top half of the engine and get rid of my rev limiter this is very tricky with a 99
to me its not worth it for an auto
the spacers on the other hand... now that may be what im looking for
of course i will pair it with a shift kit and, with my new found knowledge, an MEVI

MR. WIZARD,
how do you like the way your 98 performs?
and is it auto?

Product_Of_Korea

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250 is not much or it could even be less if you choose to stay with the 4th gen lower....

Even being auto and only going to 6.5k i bet it would still out beat spacers on a usim

There would be no tuning involved if you stuck with the 4th gen lower either.

Once again dont get me wrong, IMHO i do like the spacer idea. Just not on a USIM..... I belive even untuned The 00vi would put any kind of modification to the usim in the dust.

maxed_out_99

wow that 00VI is the mod to have if i did say just the upper wouldnt i have to go through all sorts of steps to get it to work? and how would i hook up the iacv and egr?

theres just too much i want to bolt and go
i also have 215k i dont want to spend gobbs of time on it it is my only car

soo..
what would be the best angle of attack for the upper manifold

Product_Of_Korea

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Excluding you F\I'd folks

Product_Of_Korea

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Well with the 4th gen lower there wil be some modification to be done. if you stuck with he 5gen everything it would pretty much be a bolt on mod. But you would need a tune with 5th gen everything. And thats were more of the money comes into play.

With that said it all depends on you. You need to weigh out the pro's and con's with all the setups. Im not trying to discourage you from gettting spacers. Im just saying with all the time and effort you could get more for your $$$.

And mileage really doesnt mean nothing. I put my 00vi in at 185k then put in a 3.5 shortly after and blew her up.

The Wizard

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I couldn't be happier. After the spacers and MEVI were installed, I definitely felt the added power. FWIW, I don't even feel the loss of low end power that typically associated with the MEVI and as shown on dyno graphs.

Since my 98 is my daily driver, it's auto. No regrets here.

maxed_out_99

i really appreciate your help and sound advice i would hate to drop 225 on spacers and hit the track and get smoked by a fourth gen with only the 00VI
THAT WOULD SUCK

so i believe i may install the upper manifold and the spacers for the lower and tb
i should be where i want with that setup

any thoughts?

Davey2Fresh

I own a 95 Maxima, and recently my IAT sensor code came up, so i have been researching on fixing it. but all the IAT sensors for my car are not the sensor in the car, the sensor i found that looks like mine is in a Nissan Truck and says it will not fit in my car ( but it looks like the same d*** thing!)
W0133-1611761- thats the part number of what mine looks like.. Any advice?

Flava_24/7

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If the ))VI is too much money, how are the spacers cheaper?
The MEVI also requires the entended rev limiter to gain its full potential.

Honestly, I think your expecting too much from the spacers. In my eyes, they are benificial but more of a mod thats last to do.
Im sure a Max with a 00VI will yeild better performace gains then a Max with the USIM and spacers, more so if the Max had an extended rev limiter.

maxed_out_99

is the e-manage the only way to accomplish this with a 99

the 00VI will cost me more time than money and its hard to find
like i said before i just wanna bolt and go


THANKS GUYS
this thread has been very beneficial to me

Product_Of_Korea

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IIRC 95 had a diffrent IAT then the rest. You should really be posting in here

http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...e-posting.html

This.........

Product_Of_Korea

iTrader: (8)

It depends on what you want to do with it. If you want to see its full potential then the EU would pretty much get it to that potential. But if your looking for just a tune and activator then you have other options.

Hell there are so many options with the 00vi i dont even know where to start.


But my point being

00VI(no matter what setup)>USIM with spacers

maxed_out_99

SWEET!
im not going to buy them
unless i get a killer deal on a MEVI
thanks to your awsomness i just saved a bunch of money