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Old 04-19-2011 | 03:07 PM
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HOW-TO SET TIMING ON 4TH GEN VIDEO

Hello everyone I am new to the maxima.org site and have recently purchased a 95 maxima that jumped timing after installing water pump and chain tensioner. I normally work on supras and DSM vehicles and this is my first time on a maxima. I have never dealt with a 3 chain vehicle and am willing to tackle the job and show my work. Tips and comments will be included in the video and when the video is done it will be professionally edited by me with credits to those who helped.The goal of this video it to help the person who cant afford the $500 to $1700 they would normally pay a mechanic, or the person who looks at the haynes book and has this look

I have posted many videos on the 3si.org forum and have received great responses. Once again this will be an in your face video broken into detail so the average person can gain the confidence to do themselves. I myself am a little intimidated by timing this nissan. below is a video link of the car and timing cover..as well as me discussing first steps.The final video will be better quality 1080p and will be edited for ease of use. Thank you everyone. Please chime in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mlUJQJKZg0
Old 04-19-2011 | 07:42 PM
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Not a bad start, will be looking forward to the rest of the video. And if you ever have ideas for other videos, dont hesitate to post em. Good start tho.
Old 04-19-2011 | 07:58 PM
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Nice, can't wait to see the second part.
Old 04-19-2011 | 10:56 PM
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Nice intro.. waiting on the rest!!
Old 04-20-2011 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Raiom
Hello everyone I am new to the maxima.org site and have recently purchased a 95 maxima that jumped timing after installing water pump and chain tensioner. I normally work on supras and DSM vehicles and this is my first time on a maxima. I have never dealt with a 3 chain vehicle and am willing to tackle the job and show my work. Tips and comments will be included in the video and when the video is done it will be professionally edited by me with credits to those who helped.The goal of this video it to help the person who cant afford the $500 to $1700 they would normally pay a mechanic, or the person who looks at the haynes book and has this look

I have posted many videos on the 3si.org forum and have received great responses. Once again this will be an in your face video broken into detail so the average person can gain the confidence to do themselves. I myself am a little intimidated by timing this nissan. below is a video link of the car and timing cover..as well as me discussing first steps.The final video will be better quality 1080p and will be edited for ease of use. Thank you everyone. Please chime in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mlUJQJKZg0

I am Eagerly awaiting your next video, I would say you should probably contact KRRZZR and Ajcool, they both know a great deal about VQ's and their wonderful timing components.

Also for the record read up on the history and the amazingnessicity of the VQ engine this **** is WAY overbuilt, and while on these engines timing being Jumped is rare, Engine swaps where timing is replaced or swapped is Very common!
Old 04-20-2011 | 02:33 AM
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Thank you I wish i knew who they were. I will try and contact them tommorrow for help with the video. In the meantime I will post the way i found TDC to start. I hope people will jump in with ideas of angles along with tips and steps. If anyone feels I found or said something wrong please let me know So I can edit the video, as I go.

First Video finding TDC with piston #1-This video will show how I used the timing chain cover to find TDC. The water pump cover that is atatched to the timing cover has a dial that is used to line up with the crank pulley mark. I noticed this after I did my old fashion way of sticking a long extension on top of piston #1 and turning the crank.

Click Below, how to find TDC of piston #1 on compression stroke.
Please note u must do this while the cover is on. I took it out the engine so it was easier for people to see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1jZn3h7GuU
Old 04-20-2011 | 01:21 PM
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real quick. I watched your video and I am not sure you have determined the car has skipped time (not saying it has or has not). When you turn the engine over until the yellow link is lined up on the crank shaft where it should be, your cam timing chain marks are not always going to line up. When I was doing my engine swap, I found that they only all lined up every seventh time. Basically I would turn the engine by hand until the yellow link was lined up on the crank, well the cam arrows did not line up until every 7th rotation of the yellow link past the crank. Does this make sence? It's kind of hard to explain, I think you need to be focusing more on the dimples on the cam sprockets more so than the actual color on the chain. The colors on the chain are there so that you can re set time when the chains have been taken off, the colored links do not line up every rotation of the engine. Hopefully this is helpful.
Old 04-20-2011 | 02:45 PM
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New video below includes a sure way of TDC as well as comments and suggestions from Cardana24 and jsutter at 3:30 into the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMjbCy34cng

Cardana I will rotate the crank with the chain back on and see what 7 rotations will get me. Thanks guys for checking up on this how to as its also helping me fix my first nissan.

Cardana thanks for the suggestions..I got your name right in the video finally..lol..I will include the prime tensioner tip as well as removing fuel pump fuse before cranking in the final edit. Thanks for the help. I will rotate the crank 7 times to see if the chain lines up. Please keep ideas and how tos coming..Thanks
Old 04-20-2011 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cardana24
real quick. I watched your video and I am not sure you have determined the car has skipped time (not saying it has or has not). When you turn the engine over until the yellow link is lined up on the crank shaft where it should be, your cam timing chain marks are not always going to line up. When I was doing my engine swap, I found that they only all lined up every seventh time. Basically I would turn the engine by hand until the yellow link was lined up on the crank, well the cam arrows did not line up until every 7th rotation of the yellow link past the crank. Does this make sence? It's kind of hard to explain, I think you need to be focusing more on the dimples on the cam sprockets more so than the actual color on the chain. The colors on the chain are there so that you can re set time when the chains have been taken off, the colored links do not line up every rotation of the engine. Hopefully this is helpful.

Little OT care to elaborate on why it lines up on the 7th rotation? Just a curiousity question. Odd number of teeth on sprokets?
Old 04-21-2011 | 05:02 PM
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I will be eagerly awaiting the final cut. I'm in the process of repairing my head gaskets on my 96 4th gen.. I also have an upper oil pan leak as well as the o-rings that connect to the timing chain cover. I am wondering how to remove the crankshaft pulley.

I went to rent a pulley puller and the guy there confused me by asking if it's for the harmonic balancer or like one. I looked at the harmonic balancer pulley and the 2 ton 3 jaw pulley. Now I can't determine which would work best. Any input and/or advice will really help.
Old 04-22-2011 | 01:42 PM
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video below. Removing front valve cover to get to front cam gears. IF anyone can tell me what the tnesioners look like would be great. Do i turn clockwise? Im going to set the front cams first. Thanks everyone for contributing to my car and video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgCZlGUGxQM
Old 04-22-2011 | 05:45 PM
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I've been contemplating changing the waterpump but have not because of this very issue. Is it that easy to throw the timing off?

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Old 04-22-2011 | 07:40 PM
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Net video coming.how to remove guide rails,waterpump,chain tensioner, and rear valve cover.
Old 06-13-2011 | 04:20 PM
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Well any luck? Did you complete the video? I'm need to see know what to do with setting my cams because on the left bank the book and FSM say to have the dowels pointed at 12 o'clock with respect to the angle of the engine. Mine won't do this. My #1 piston is set to TDC I installed the cylinder heads and they are tightened to specs. The cylinder were previously taken to a machine shop and were resurfaced with a valve job done as well. They told me it's set and ready to be installed no adjustments needed. Ok, I had to remove the camshafts in order to install the head bolts.
Now I'm trying to place the camshafts back in and install the sprockets and chains. Problem is the lobes on the camshafts won't allow me to set the camshafts to the desired 12 o'clock position. The exhaust would be at 12 o'clock but the intake would be at 2 o'clock. I did mark the sprockets with the timing chain before removing them as suggested but now I'm not sure what to use the mark I made or find out why my camshafts won't set at the 12 o'clock position. What do I do?
Old 06-14-2011 | 11:11 PM
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cant believe you're using OEM jack..... please tell me its only there to hold the motor !
Old 06-15-2011 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mnick1
Well any luck? Did you complete the video? I'm need to see know what to do with setting my cams because on the left bank the book and FSM say to have the dowels pointed at 12 o'clock with respect to the angle of the engine. Mine won't do this. My #1 piston is set to TDC I installed the cylinder heads and they are tightened to specs. The cylinder were previously taken to a machine shop and were resurfaced with a valve job done as well. They told me it's set and ready to be installed no adjustments needed. Ok, I had to remove the camshafts in order to install the head bolts.
Now I'm trying to place the camshafts back in and install the sprockets and chains. Problem is the lobes on the camshafts won't allow me to set the camshafts to the desired 12 o'clock position. The exhaust would be at 12 o'clock but the intake would be at 2 o'clock. I did mark the sprockets with the timing chain before removing them as suggested but now I'm not sure what to use the mark I made or find out why my camshafts won't set at the 12 o'clock position. What do I do?
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor-61/ Look around here you'll find your answer.
Old 06-15-2011 | 07:24 PM
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Yes, please give us an update to know at least that it is in progress...
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Bump because I need this for reference
Old 02-12-2013 | 05:57 PM
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dude, you are the man, I can't wait to see how this finishes! Thank you for the input!
Old 02-13-2013 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sjonesist
I've been contemplating changing the waterpump but have not because of this very issue. Is it that easy to throw the timing off?
I followed the FSM to the t, and it turned out good. OP, good work on the videos. This should probably be in the stickies.
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Fwiw, the colored links will rarely all line up with their respective marks. Their sole purpose is for assembly.
Old 06-17-2014 | 07:57 PM
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so I'm stressing for nothing ?? ??

Originally Posted by asand1
Fwiw, the colored links will rarely all line up with their respective marks. Their sole purpose is for assembly.
I have been searching hanes book ,, and got a Chilton manual ,, now running all over internet trying to figure out where I messed up .... marks were off when I tore it apart ....
Are you saying that if I set all the marks ,, that I'm ok ??
Old 06-17-2014 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bobjob
I have been searching hanes book ,, and got a Chilton manual ,, now running all over internet trying to figure out where I messed up .... marks were off when I tore it apart ....
Are you saying that if I set all the marks ,, that I'm ok ??
If all of the tick marks and colored chain links line up described... yes, you will be good to go provided you did all of that with cylinder #1's piston at Top Dead Center (TDC)
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