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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 12:55 AM
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4th gen UDP Interest?????

Anyone looking for an expensive durable UDP? I had some made for the 3rd Gen VG guys a few years back....I'll more than likely go that some route with my 98 Maxima....Anyone else interested estimate cost is under $200....IIRC the cost was about $150-$185.....
Old Feb 20, 2012 | 03:29 AM
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UR already makes one for the 4th gen.

And an underdrive pulley is nearly worthless anyway. $185 for a couple of hp, not to mention the negative aspect of having an underdrive pulley...no thanks.
Old Feb 20, 2012 | 04:55 AM
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 10:09 AM
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 10:20 AM
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The Wizard
UR already makes one for the 4th gen.

And an underdrive pulley is nearly worthless anyway. $185 for a couple of hp, not to mention the negative aspect of having an underdrive pulley...no thanks.
yeah I thought they weren't available anymore.....But they were well over $200 per unit anyway.....these will be less made by ASP racing....
Old Feb 20, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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Sorry, not worth it.
Old Feb 20, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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For the cost and aggrecation for very minimal gains its not worth it to most, dont take it to heart but an udp is more a pain than its worth...its kind of one of those things people buy just to say they have one...
Old Feb 20, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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For that price might as well get intake spacers just sayin......
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MAXIMA_STYLE
For the cost and aggrecation for very minimal gains its not worth it to most, dont take it to heart but an udp is more a pain than its worth...its kind of one of those things people buy just to say they have one...
Hold out your hand and I'll give you an OEM and a Billet aluminum crank pulley....Maybe they can't measure the benefit with their a$$ but I'm positively assured there's plenty of benefits from it just reducing the weight on the crank alone.....
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 06:44 AM
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Maybe they can't measure the benefit with their a$$ but I'm positively assured there's plenty of benefits from it just reducing the weight on the crank alone
Gains are very minimal.
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CMax03
Hold out your hand and I'll give you an OEM and a Billet aluminum crank pulley....Maybe they can't measure the benefit with their a$$ but I'm positively assured there's plenty of benefits from it just reducing the weight on the crank alone.....
The extra 2HP is not worth an undercharged battery or warm AC. If you had a stock diameter lightweight aluminum pulley made, well then you might have buyers.
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by asand1
The extra 2HP is not worth an undercharged battery or warm AC. If you had a stock diameter lightweight aluminum pulley made, well then you might have buyers.
That already exists too, well kind of. I worked with UR years ago and they made me and Ptatohed stock diameter lightweight aluminum pulleys. Not sure if it's available to the masses though as it's not on their website.
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 11:47 AM
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they beat the crap out of your engine.
no thanks
Old Feb 22, 2012 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by asand1
The extra 2HP is not worth an undercharged battery or warm AC. If you had a stock diameter lightweight aluminum pulley made, well then you might have buyers.
That was done for the VG Sohc 3rd gen as well, we made an UDP and an OEM lightweight crank pulley....I've been running a UR UDP (on my 03 VQ35DE) for 8 yrs and I've had an ice cold A/C and with an Optima redtop no problems (audio guys have problems with UDP's)... I've even been running the same belts since I installed the UR UDP....But no biggie guys I'll have some made and those that want one will have a chance to buy one!
Old Feb 22, 2012 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by maxed_out_99
they beat the crap out of your engine.
no thanks
WTF are you talking about! Our engines are internally balanced....This isn't a Detroit engine with a matched harmonic balancer! My 03 VQ35 and running smooth and strong and it's had a UR UDP for 8 yrs.....130K+ miles.....
Old Feb 22, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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WTF are you talking about! Our engines are internally balanced....This isn't a Detroit engine with a matched harmonic balancer! My 03 VQ35 and running smooth and strong and it's had a UR UDP for 8 yrs.....130K+ miles.....
Internally balanced or not you cannot convince me. they are not stock and do not dampen the vibration engineers are not stupid
Old Feb 22, 2012 | 11:49 AM
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at all of the unproven claims in this thread, this is why I take what people think/say on the .org w/ a grain of salt.

Anyways, I will text you Cmax, I just saw the prices on a UDP and got shocked, I definitely want to put one on my white car too.
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Originally Posted by CMax03
WTF are you talking about! Our engines are internally balanced....This isn't a Detroit engine with a matched harmonic balancer! My 03 VQ35 and running smooth and strong and it's had a UR UDP for 8 yrs.....130K+ miles.....
Harmonic balancer is a bit of a misnomer. A harmonic damper is used to dissipate the harmonic oscillations caused by torque loading imposed on the crankshaft during the power stroke of each cylinder. If you look at the VQ30 balancer (damper) you will see it is two piece, bonded with an elastomer band. Replacing the the stock damper with one piece part could (not will) result in stress cracks and eventual separation at the oil galley or fillet areas of the cranckshaft. Use at your own risk.
I will say that the VQ has proven itself in longevity and brute strength. If any engine could live without a harmonic damper, it would be this one.
Old Feb 22, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by asand1
Harmonic balancer is a bit of a misnomer. A harmonic damper is used to dissipate the harmonic oscillations caused by torque loading imposed on the crankshaft during the power stroke of each cylinder. If you look at the VQ30 balancer (damper) you will see it is two piece, bonded with an elastomer band. Replacing the the stock damper with one piece part could (not will) result in stress cracks and eventual separation at the oil galley or fillet areas of the cranckshaft. Use at your own risk.
I will say that the VQ has proven itself in longevity and brute strength. If any engine could live without a harmonic damper, it would be this one.
+1 to me it's not worth the money or risk for 2hp
Old Feb 23, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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No biggie guys I'll do 1 UDP and 1 OEM.......
Old Feb 23, 2012 | 05:06 PM
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Too much negativity in this thread. If you make a stock size pulley then im in.
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^^^ what he said
Old Feb 24, 2012 | 09:14 AM
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I'm gonna make both sizes...UD and OEM...ASP Racing estimates $125-$150 per unit!
Here's 3rd Gen VG SOHC they made for me b4:

Here's mine 1990 Maxima's VG30E (UR UDP)
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OEM and Lightweight Oem sized Billet
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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I was actually looking for an OEM size pulley. Id be interested
Old Feb 24, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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So right Now the list of those interested is like this:

OEM Sized LWP(lightweight pulley)
1. IslandMax
2. Wirelessdude04
3.CMax03
4. Aackshun
Old Apr 1, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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I need a crank pulley, is this the LWP going forward.
Old Apr 1, 2012 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CMax03
So right Now the list of those interested is like this:

OEM Sized LWP(lightweight pulley)
1. IslandMax
2. Wirelessdude04
3.CMax03
4. Aackshun
GL with this I had a Ralco on my 03 for like 9 months no problem at all with AC or battery issues but ride got totaled, now on 02 got a Motorstorm one....
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Originally Posted by CMax03
So right Now the list of those interested is like this:

OEM Sized LWP(lightweight pulley)
1. IslandMax
2. Wirelessdude04
3.CMax03
4. Aackshun
5. ABIGBRAIN
Old Apr 1, 2012 | 09:41 PM
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Any update on this?
Old Apr 2, 2012 | 08:24 PM
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Yall ready to do this? I'll send them a pulley to copy into there cad database this week?
1. IslandMax
2. Wirelessdude04
3. Cmax03
4. Aackshun
5. ABIGBRAIN
6. dgoodhue
Old Apr 2, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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Im in.
Old Apr 4, 2012 | 06:43 PM
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We can do both UDP and Lightweight OEM...I'll more than likely go the OEM size route or do both like I did for my 3rd Gen! I'll shipping them the Oem model to Copy into their CAD database b4 this weekend guys.....

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