ive already seen that someone once did this with a longer shaft and a remote mounted unit im thinking a bit wilder like a custom upper manifold that has the supercharger on top and feeds down to a front mount i know im undertaking a huge job and a lot of fabrication but its my winter car and ive already piped it and all other easy mods and i want bigger i just think the variable intake is waste of time if i could make this work. let me know what you guys think either way ill do its almost 15 years old and im ok with it blowing up lol

You have the cash and skills to do something like that?

i have a 400 horse foxbody that i built to drive and i have a garage and i work at a napa warehouse and im definitly not scared of fabrication just not sure if ill end up with a big subaru scoop because of the charger height but im ok with that

hope he says yes

it ll have to be a ford m90 much better pricing and other obvious reasons the manifold will have to be pancake style i wish i could tig but steel will probably not require additional bracing to support the force of the m90, the m90 i think is only six or so inches feel free to chime in

if i have the entance of the upper manifold come in downards by the ks i can keep the throttle body and sensors near the same area with a bov upwards on the pipe up from the intercooler maybe even an egr. i think belt slippage will be minimal maybe none with the tensioner set up where it is on the vq no ac so that ll help a low temp stat of course

I've thought about this before. I'd fab a lower intake and have the SC dump directly in ( no aftercooler/BOV ). Hardest part in my mind would be mounting injectors.

Having owned a GTP i'm familiar with the M90. This will be a cool setup to see. What i'm curious about is how you're going to run the belt. On the GTP, it had a separate belt for the supercharger.

Here's a link to the M90 specs...


http://www.capa.com.au/eaton_m90data.htm

I belive the only way you can run a roots type blower on our cars if at all is with some sort of intermediate shaft.

im thinking no detonation so intercooled and besides the m90 is so well matched for these engine specs i dont think lag will be an issue as long as it stays on the main drive belt and im keepin the lower messin with that will be dangerous those injectors need to mount somewhere and the idea of having one come "loose" during operation very bad and the top of the lower gives me a flat surface lookin at it i think im about 2 inches of hood short at least

well that intermediate shaft depends again on how it mounts specifically where. and i was considering another belt but i think thats going to cause slippage only because i think when it spools up the drag will differ from the main belt line tension

it looks nice but id rather make it for a couple hunded if i dump money like that in to anything my fox won't be 400whp anymore

Doubt that the cost and amount of work would be worth the end result. But I'm not saying don't do it. It's your car man lol

whats the A33 put down anyway it looks all nasty like i like my sports cars

cost minimal the old man may even have a used m90 sittin in storage oh well if it blows up i hope its at WOT it needs a new vq ive been tryin to kill this one for 5 years now

it can be done if you have the skills. go for it.

looking at keeping cost down i think im going to start with a plate of 3/16ths cut the holes to fit the lower intake manifold and on that plate i will also mount the m90 but as far back as possible to leave some room in front for an upper manifold box that fits the space left by the lack of USIM between the plate and hood. obviously the belt will need to go around the motor mount for proper alignment if i want to use the drive belt thanks a bunch for the specs they make me think this can definitly be done cheap im shootin for under 500 it is my winter car but once i put it back in the garage its go time

someone did it on 4th gen way back when

then the car got totaled

it was sad

i forgot his name

search roots supercharger and you will find him (pre 05)

it was craig mack. thing got totaled like the day he got it back or the next day or something.

I think fabbing something up to make an older heaton work on anything is a waste of time. And I've toyed with 3800s for the last decade..

I know where there is a detroit 371 blower

im not too sure what a "heaton" is but i DONT like pontiacs ive never seen things break that ive seen break in pontiacs people put m90 s on everything from jeeps to newer mustangs still just because i can source it for 60 bucks from a supercoupe and it comes in a sweet finish why not. and any of those pontiacs from your 3800 era all autos that stinks but you brought it up. so this winter ill be gettin that 60 dollar unit an intercooler a bov,pipes and i already have the steel so ill post up when i start really makin progress probably march once the fox hits the road again cant wait to start it thanks to everyone for their input and support even the haters

I'm looking forward to seeing this. Would be nice to see something different done

Lolllll

You hate Pontiacs. I'm so sad now..

Just because it's cheap and everyone does it doesn't mean anything.

Not Heaton, Eaton. He must have typed typoed that. Which is what the Supercoupe used, an Eaton M90.
http://www.eaton.com/Eaton/ProductsS...gers/index.htm

No typo. Older Eatons are heat guns when you start dropping pulleys.

Yup that's why intercooling is a must, especially if the pulley size goes below 3.4

he called it a heaton because they are so inefficient and make the intake charge so hot.