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Old 01-08-2002 | 10:15 AM
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Home-Made FTSB?

Hey all,

Is there anything special about the FTSB that would prevent anyone with a workshop and welder/metalworking tools from making one?

As far as I can see, all it would need is to have the plates cut out that bolt to the top of the struts, then a nice strong bar between, welded solidly... Am I missing anything?

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Old 01-08-2002 | 10:30 AM
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Re: Home-Made FTSB?

Originally posted by Scruit
Hey all,

Is there anything special about the FTSB that would prevent anyone with a workshop and welder/metalworking tools from making one?

As far as I can see, all it would need is to have the plates cut out that bolt to the top of the struts, then a nice strong bar between, welded solidly... Am I missing anything?

Tnx.
The question is why you would go through the trouble to make your own, when there are braces out there that are cheap enough for anyone to buy. Retail prices not cheap enough, check ebay, and you can get one for a steal.
Old 01-08-2002 | 10:30 AM
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why bother??? - do u think that yor max will praise you or sumthing for making it yorself?? - haha - the bar is only 100 buxx anyways - i woodnt really trust any home made mods
Old 01-08-2002 | 10:57 AM
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$100 bucks? Yikes. I got mine for $45 (canadian .. so $30 US heh)
Old 01-08-2002 | 11:00 AM
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Exactly....if you're that good with metalworking, I'd say go out and make your own rear sway bar, or hell, cat-back exhaust system. That would be worth the time and effort.
Old 01-08-2002 | 11:08 AM
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Exactly....if you're that good with metalworking, I'd say go out and make your own rear sway bar, or hell, cat-back exhaust system. That would be worth the time and effort.
yeah, i agree... i'd buy the FSTB and if i had the skills you say you have... i'd make a RSB instead or RSTB, whichever

though if you really want to do it yourself, why not... not gonna bash you for wanting to try s'all good.
Old 01-08-2002 | 11:32 AM
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Go to CustomMaxima.com and order a FSTB for $37. Just as good as the Stillen one only its a fourth the price. Get a RSB if you can, it really increases handling.
Old 01-08-2002 | 11:51 AM
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But maybe he has the stuff hanging around and is not going to take alot of time to make it. Then he saves the money anyways. Maybe he just likes doing things on his own. There are lots of reasons but yeah basicly like you said. Just make the brackets and a solid piece of metal in the middle not too much to it.

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Old 01-08-2002 | 01:53 PM
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yes it can be made easily,

you don't even need to weld, etc.. my friend made his own, b/c for his car fstb is 100$ no 35$ like ours..

next time I am home we are going to make RSB for my car, to save me the $... all I need is the bushings (home depot)..

FSTB is piece of cake, go for it! I think fstb, rsb, rstb are 3 things that can be made by yourself and work just as well as the purchased ones.. its the intakes and that crap that i dont trust making your own..
Old 01-08-2002 | 03:34 PM
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Ummm, don't you need special spring-metal to make a RSB or anything with spring-like qualities? Regular steel doesn't take too well to repeated twisting forces. A sway bar is basically a bent torsion bar....

A FSTB is just structural.
Old 01-08-2002 | 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by Bman
Ummm, don't you need special spring-metal to make a RSB or anything with spring-like qualities? Regular steel doesn't take too well to repeated twisting forces. A sway bar is basically a bent torsion bar....

A FSTB is just structural.
You got it...

I'm just interested in turning some of this pile of steel stock I have into an FTSB and RTSB. FSB and RSB are both dynamic devices with special springy-torsiony-bar-thingys (Sorry for getting all technical on you guys ). The Front and Rear Strut Tower Braces are static devices just there for structural support... Wht pay $35 front and $100 rear, when I can spend $0.00 and 2 hours in my workshop this weekend and get the same thing?

For those who don't know this;

FTSB = Front Tower Strut Brace
RTSB = Rear Tower Strut Brace
FSB = Front Sway Bar
RSB = Rear Sway Bar


The weird thing is the sway-bar has four names; Sway bar, Anti-Sway Bar, Roll Bar and Anti-Roll Bar. (Roll = body-roll, not to be confused with roll cage on race cars & offroad trucks that tend to be upside-down a lot )
Old 01-08-2002 | 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by Bman
Ummm, don't you need special spring-metal to make a RSB or anything with spring-like qualities? Regular steel doesn't take too well to repeated twisting forces. A sway bar is basically a bent torsion bar....

A FSTB is just structural.
That's exactly the observation I made reading through this thread - you took the words right outta my mouth. . .

RSB is made out of tempered, spring-grade steel. -Not the sorta stuff you can just pick up @ Home Depot. It would be on the same level as saying "I want to build my own springs from scratch." You might be able to "do it," but don't be surprised if you're dissapointed with the results. (if compared to the Stillen or Addco RSB's)

The FSTB/RSTB on the other hand, could be done, if quality materials, workmanship & attention to detail are your guides.
Old 01-08-2002 | 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by 95emeraldgxe
why bother??? - do u think that yor max will praise you or sumthing for making it yorself?? - haha - the bar is only 100 buxx anyways - i woodnt really trust any home made mods
Thay got one on ebay right now
Old 01-08-2002 | 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by Scruit

Wht pay $35 front and $100 rear, when I can spend $0.00 and 2 hours in my workshop this weekend and get the same thing?
Ahh yes, and the pride! -Don't forget the PRIDE!

Old 01-08-2002 | 10:31 PM
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Re: Home-Made FTSB?

Originally posted by Scruit
Hey all,

Is there anything special about the FTSB that would prevent anyone with a workshop and welder/metalworking tools from making one?

As far as I can see, all it would need is to have the plates cut out that bolt to the top of the struts, then a nice strong bar between, welded solidly... Am I missing anything?

Tnx.
http://www.greghome.com/Greg's%20Gar...E/HomeFSTB.htm
Old 01-08-2002 | 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by KWheelzSB


That's exactly the observation I made reading through this thread - you took the words right outta my mouth. . .

RSB is made out of tempered, spring-grade steel. -Not the sorta stuff you can just pick up @ Home Depot. It would be on the same level as saying "I want to build my own springs from scratch." You might be able to "do it," but don't be surprised if you're dissapointed with the results. (if compared to the Stillen or Addco RSB's)

The FSTB/RSTB on the other hand, could be done, if quality materials, workmanship & attention to detail are your guides.

dangit ! glad you all told me a RSB has special crap.. I was going to try one, you just saved me some work.. would it make any gains just to make one of normal steel instead of spring-whatever ?
Old 01-08-2002 | 11:08 PM
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Re: yes it can be made easily,

Originally posted by hlh0501
next time I am home we are going to make RSB for my car, to save me the $... all I need is the bushings (home depot)..
Where at the home depot do they sell these? Like what department? Do they hav the urethane ones there people upgrade to?

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Old 01-08-2002 | 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by hlh0501
dangit ! glad you all told me a RSB has special crap.. I was going to try one, you just saved me some work.. would it make any gains just to make one of normal steel instead of spring-whatever ?
Oh good, I'm not going crazy! I was almost expecting lots of "no dude, you're full 'o crap!"

Anyway, no I wouldn't try making a RSB by yourself, even if you had the right material. Ever take an unused staple and look at it? It looks just like a tiny sway bar for your Hot Wheels! Now grab the two ends and try twisting it back and forth. This is what's happening to a real sway bar as you're cornering. Eventually the metal will fatigue so much it'll snap in two. That's because the metal isn't spring-steel and isn't made to flex or twist over and over again.

Greg sells the Addco RSB for both 3rd and 4th Gens on www.custommaxima.com for only $115, which is (at least for 3rd Gens) the best price I could find anywhere. Cattman ( www.cattman.com ) might have a similar price I think.

Happy modding
Old 01-11-2002 | 11:11 PM
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$100 bucks? Yikes. I got mine for $45 (canadian .. so $30 US heh)
where? I just got mine for $60(canadian after tax)
Old 01-11-2002 | 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by Scruit



For those who don't know this;

FTSB = Front Tower Strut Brace
RTSB = Rear Tower Strut Brace
for those of you who don't know this;

FSTB = Front Strut Tower Brace
RSTB = Rear Strut Tower Brace
Old 01-11-2002 | 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by sx7r


for those of you who don't know this;

FSTB = Front Strut Tower Brace
RSTB = Rear Strut Tower Brace
LOL...such minute details...
Old 01-11-2002 | 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by guitaraus


LOL...such minute details...
couldn't resist. lol.
Old 01-12-2002 | 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by sx7r
for those of you who don't know this;

FSTB = Front Strut Tower Brace
RSTB = Rear Strut Tower Brace
But actually this one is the correct version! Didn't notice that until now!
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