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Old Jan 13, 2002 | 12:05 AM
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i own a 95 gxe.......but i have also seen the GLE's......i dont recall them having the indicator lights......how are u going to install them anyways???? - its a pretty kool idea.......i wonder if its really doable
Old Jan 13, 2002 | 12:47 AM
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Crap!! This reminds me of the hidden "amb" for ambient/outside temperature hidden in the electronic climate control that we can't activate/use! The two things I wish the Max had were outside temperature display and the PRND in the instrument cluster. So are you saying the PRND is actually hidden back there?! Shoot. Nice discovery. If someone could get this to work, I'd be one happy camper.

P.s. But to answer your question as asked, no, the GLEs do not have the PRND in the cluster.
Old Jan 13, 2002 | 08:02 AM
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Re: question for GLE owners

Originally posted by slammed95
When I took out the gauge cluster on my 95 to install the indiglos I saw 6 light bulb holes labeled P,R,N,D,2,1 on the back.
My Haynes manual picture shows that too. Did you notice if those holes are designed to actually hold bulbs (maybe htey have a notch to lock bulb up after bulb is turned in one direction)? Any wire/trace from bulb terminals (imagine bulbs are in their place) to wherever...
I never took my gauge cluster out but definately will if they are "pre-wired".
I was thinking about adding a home-made PRND21 but quickly abandoned that idea.
Old Jan 13, 2002 | 08:05 AM
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that would rule if we had one of those
Old Jan 13, 2002 | 08:58 AM
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yeah mine doesnt have it, but i'd love to have it. When i opened console i remember seeing a connector taped up around the shifter base, i wonder if that's the one?
Old Jan 13, 2002 | 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by BluFlame
yeah mine doesnt have it, but i'd love to have it. When i opened console i remember seeing a connector taped up around the shifter base, i wonder if that's the one?
Do you mean the connector is hanging there, not plugged into a mating part? Haynes manual's schematic showa an "inhibitor switch" that seems to me is the only one related to PRND21 indicator. Seems no other thing will have the PRND21 signal...
Old Jan 13, 2002 | 09:26 AM
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Re: :o)

Originally posted by ptatohed
Crap!! This reminds me of the hidden "amb" for ambient/outside temperature hidden in the electronic climate control that we can't activate/use! The two things I wish the Max had were outside temperature display and the PRND in the instrument cluster. So are you saying the PRND is actually hidden back there?! Shoot. Nice discovery. If someone could get this to work, I'd be one happy camper.

P.s. But to answer your question as asked, no, the GLEs do not have the PRND in the cluster.
The Maxima does have a AMB button which tells you outside temperature. I know mine does. It's a '99 GLE.
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The Maxima does have a AMB button which tells you outside temperature. I know mine does. It's a '99 GLE.
ya i see it too on the screen when u look at in the light
Old Jan 13, 2002 | 10:02 AM
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there were posts about the amb a while ago, wondering how it came out, because 97 up maxs can actually have a amb button put in, but 95-96 are different...if there is a way...that would be so nice.
Old Jan 13, 2002 | 10:13 AM
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If this is doable, I'd like to do it to my SE auto. Then it'll make all the 5-speed guys jealous.

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Old Jan 13, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by AznStevie
there were posts about the amb a while ago, wondering how it came out, because 97 up maxs can actually have a amb button put in, but 95-96 are different...if there is a way...that would be so nice.
Its actually 98 and up because they got the different auto climate control unit than the 97's. I have a 97 and my temp up/down are circular and on the left and I don't have a place for the buttom to go.
Old Jan 13, 2002 | 10:24 AM
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Re: Re: :o)

Originally posted by mAdD MAX


The Maxima does have a AMB button which tells you outside temperature. I know mine does. It's a '99 GLE.
99 was the first year that got that, my 99 GLE doens't have the PRND indicator on the dash, not like I look at the console one anyways but when my parents drives the car they almost complain its always not there.
Old Jan 13, 2002 | 12:42 PM
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Actually the 89-90 Max GXE with the Luxury package had Ambient Temp button, Nissan dropped it for 91 then it appeared again in the 92-94 MAX GXE with the luxury package. Then in 95-98 they dropped it again only to reappear in 99.
Old Jan 13, 2002 | 01:38 PM
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Re: Re: Re: question for GLE owners

Originally posted by slammed95
Yes, the holes hold bulbs because I put in the ones that go behind the gauges. The connection is already their on the circuitboard, and the lights light up according to the selected gear. The only thing needed to complete this project are the six lighbulbs with the orange sockets, and a gauge cluster cover with the gear indicators on it.
Oh that's good. However the gauge cluster with gear indicators is the difficult part. Before I read your post I shined a flash light on the gauge and didn't see anything translucent that allows PRND21 light to show up. Do you think the black gauge face plate is the only thing that blocks the indicator light? In another word, if the face plate is taken away, can we see PRND21 letters, or just six bulbs with no letters on them? Looks like Nissan just missed one step...
Old Jan 13, 2002 | 08:09 PM
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Maybe the 4th gen I-30's have this feature and we can use the face plate for them.
I don't think 4th gen I30 has it. That'll be the most difficult part.
Old Jan 13, 2002 | 08:51 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: question for GLE owners

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Yes, the black gauge face plate is the only thing preventing the lights to show. Without the black gauge face plate all you see is the bulb, so we need a face plate that has the letters and numbers on it. They should look the same as where the lights are for o/d off, seatbelt, airbag etc.. Maybe the 4th gen I-30's have this feature and we can use the face plate for them.
When I did my indiglo gauges I saw them. I posted about it and nobody knew. I am going to take them apart to fix something and I am going to try and get them working...I will let you know if I get it done.

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Old Jan 14, 2002 | 01:39 AM
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Re: Re: Re: question for GLE owners

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Yes, the holes hold bulbs because I put in the ones that go behind the gauges. The connection is already their on the circuitboard, and the lights light up according to the selected gear. The only thing needed to complete this project are the six lighbulbs with the orange sockets, and a gauge cluster cover with the gear indicators on it.
Slammed, you are the man!!! Are you serious?! It really works, huh? That is so bad a. We definately have to get this to work guys.
Old Jan 14, 2002 | 11:32 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: question for GLE owners

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The only thing I can't figure out about this mod is where to get the appropriate gauge cluster face plate. I can't even imagine why the 4th gens have the connnections and bulb holes on circuit board of the gauge cluster if neither any trim maximas nor I-30's have this feature. There has to be a reason for those connections to be there.

Non-U.S. Maximas perhaps?
Old Jan 14, 2002 | 12:43 PM
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maybe Cycerfio can get this parts cuz he gets stuff from j-spec/other maximas
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 12:24 PM
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Any progress on this sweet discovery?
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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Under the condition that PRND21 light bulbs are all working, to me there are two things to consider: 1) where to get the face plate with PRND21; 2) is it easy to self-install? I read some post about taking gauge needles out, having problems, etc.
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 12:03 AM
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yeah - this sounds real sweet....hopefully sumone can get it to werk!
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 01:56 AM
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The Cefiro, Australian Maxima and UK/Euro QX all have had the cluster face you need fitted to certain models. As correctly mentioned earlier some 3rd Gens also had the display feature, I gave away a JDM cluster with it fitted just recently.
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by slammed95
...I'm currently working on a harness for the needed connections, but need to find a source that knows which gear the car is currently in...
I looked at Haynes manual. In "Starting and charging system" section, there is an "Inhibitor Switch", one-throw-six-pole, to let engine be able to start at "P" or "N". In "Exterior lighing" section, the same switch but another one-throw-six-pole, to let back up lihgt turn on when at "R". So it's a double-throw-six-pole switch that we have a chance to utilize.
On that switch, many poles are open-circuited, therefore when using those poles an nearly "open-circuit" circuit should be connected in order not to change its original operation.
I don't know where the switch is located, maybe somewhere near the shifter lever?
Seems a lot of work but possible.
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 07:14 PM
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it might be best(and easier)to get the complete UK/jdm gage cluster with the face plate and bulbs already in it. before you build it, you need to see what it looks like right? An FSM from australia or nz can help too, i dunno if anybody has it?
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by BluFlame
it might be best(and easier)to get the complete UK/jdm gage cluster with the face plate and bulbs already in it. before you build it, you need to see what it looks like right? An FSM from australia or nz can help too, i dunno if anybody has it?


Ask RoAdBeast.. see what he has. Either PM or email.

I have an SE and would LOVE this. I mihgt havk open my cluster tuesday to see what I can see
Old Jan 21, 2002 | 05:13 AM
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anyone remember NZ MAx he had a max in nz and maybe he could tell us



...and maybe just maybe a face plate off a 92-96 camry or 95-99 avalon could fit our cars cuz it looks very close
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It can be done

The pic is from JDM cefiro and it has the gear indicator.
(letme know if the link is broken, BTW pic from megamax)

http://community.webshots.com/user/bluflame88
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Re: It can be done

Originally posted by BluFlame
The pic is from JDM cefiro and it has the gear indicator.
(letme know if the link is broken, BTW pic from megamax)

http://community.webshots.com/user/bluflame88
Nice, very nice. I see the vertical place for the PRND but I don't see it actually lit up. Does it, in fact, fuction? Also, how can we get this cluster (and most importantly, in BLACK, not silver)? Lastly, how do we hook this feature up?! Thanks guys. This would be so cool to have.
Old Jan 30, 2002 | 04:20 PM
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No lights in PRND21, could it just be a place holder, with no function? Can we take our black face plate to a fine milling shop and let them mill the letters. Or let them just mill the center slot, and we print PRND21 on a sheet of transparent (actually I did already, just for fun to look at, the letter is transparent, everywhere else is black to block the light), and stick it on back side of face plate.
Someone found there is no connection to those six bulbs? And haven't found where the PRND21 switch is to connect to bulbs.
Still lots of work but it is very attractive.
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Old Feb 13, 2002 | 07:27 AM
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98 actually.

My car has the same climate control as the 99 and I have AMB.


Originally posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
Actually the 89-90 Max GXE with the Luxury package had Ambient Temp button, Nissan dropped it for 91 then it appeared again in the 92-94 MAX GXE with the luxury package. Then in 95-98 they dropped it again only to reappear in 99.
Old Feb 13, 2002 | 11:05 AM
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Its actually 98 and up because they got the different auto climate control unit than the 97's. I have a 97 and my temp up/down are circular and on the left and I don't have a place for the buttom to go.
I was just trying to get some help with my 97SE and I happened upon the Auburn tag and wanted to say War Eagle to you!
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I was just trying to get some help with my 97SE and I happened upon the Auburn tag and wanted to say War Eagle to you!


Huh?
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 09:56 AM
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Huh?

sorry, trying to send a message to waarreagle. I apologize.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by slammed95
...I'm close(hopefully) to getting the gear indicator lights to correspond to the correct gears...I have also tried the black plastic film with white letters, but it was a little too dark.
Nice to know you are getting close. Wonder where is the PRND21 switch that you can connect the light bulbs to? If you use black film it is already blocking most light, plus the white letter will block more light. I tried using transparency film. The letter has no color, and everywhere else is black. I inverted the color with one of the window accessories called Paint. I think the nicer way is to have some colors for each letter, for example: green for D, 2 and 1, red for R, orange for P and N. Or refer to cars with gear indicator.
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