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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 06:08 AM
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My front right caliper was hanging up, causing my brake pads to go metal to metal while the left side still had well over 50% left, and my rotors were both shot. Rather than just doing a normal brake job, I picked up red powder coated calipers, ceramic pads, and blank China rotors for a 2006 Maxima. Total was about $196.
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6th gen rotors are 1.6" larger than 4th gen rotors, allowing for more brake torque, or leverage. 6th gen calipers also have larger pistons, applying more PSI clamping force to the rotors, and larger pads allowing more friction. Finally, the larger, heavier rotors are able to absorb and dissipate more heat, reducing brake fade.

Old stock brakes, lost in 17" Mustang wheels.
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Before:
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After jacking the car up and placing it on jack stands, I hung the old calipers out of the way and removed the rest of the old brakes. I removed the dust shields and drilled the steering knuckles out from 12mm to 14mm.

Old rotor over top of new rotor.
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A hair over 1 1/2" bigger.
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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 06:18 AM
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Knuckle stripped down bare.
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I took some measurements for those trying to piece this together without a donor vehicle. The bolt size is M14x1.5. The knuckle ear thickness is 12mm, and the bracket is 26mm. An M14X1.5X35 or 40 bolt, with a 10mm long shoulder would be ideal. I had a 20mm shoulder so I had to stack three washers alternating lock, flat, lock, to take up the space. When I have some money later I will replace the bolts to eliminate the extra washers.
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NOTE!!
With 6th gen brakes the length of the new bolts is not critical. Because they protrude into the void behind the rotor anyway, they do not contact the rotor unless ridiculously long.
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Pad Placement
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Calipers and pads installed using red Valvoline high temp disc brake grease:
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After:
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Red powder coated calipers and ceramic pads from eBay seller Brakemotive76
: ~$136
Blank China rotors from Rockauto.com: ~$50 shipped,
Total: ~$196.

Pedal is softer with more pedal travel due to the larger piston, but braking force is vastly improved.

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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 06:24 AM
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Nice! Congratulations!

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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 07:10 AM
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Nice! Congratulations!

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Thank you.
Old Feb 11, 2015 | 08:49 AM
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Very nice
Old Feb 11, 2015 | 09:00 AM
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I ordered the bolts and washers from the dealership.

6th gen upgrade is very very good.
You'll enjoy them.

Thinking about doing the rear brakes now?
I sure am.
Old Feb 11, 2015 | 11:09 AM
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job well done mate.
Old Feb 12, 2015 | 12:56 PM
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Ace hardware or the junkyard....It's a bolt!
Old Feb 12, 2015 | 02:41 PM
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Very nice. Love how the wheel is filled with brakes!
Old Feb 13, 2015 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Fakie J Farkerton
Thinking about doing the rear brakes now?
I sure am.
I would love to, but every option for the rear is just too spendy. This was just a brake job really, it only required cheap, readily available parts. Would be nice if there were Nissan discs and torque members to add an inch or more to the rear, but I just can't afford fastbrakes kit or anything like that.

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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 03:01 AM
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Very nice. Love how the wheel is filled with brakes!
Thank you, this was probably just as important to me as the added performance.

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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 03:25 AM
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Thank you, this was probably just as important to me as the added performance.

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OK so when are you going to work on that 4X4 look
Old Feb 13, 2015 | 03:46 AM
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OK so when are you going to work on that 4X4 look
Never

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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 06:50 AM
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Great upgrade for only $200!

I've had thoughts of replacing my OEM 16" wheels to 17" or 18". If I ever do I'll add on those 6th GEN front brakes.
Old Feb 13, 2015 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jholley
Great upgrade for only $200!

I've had thoughts of replacing my OEM 16" wheels to 17" or 18". If I ever do I'll add on those 6th GEN front brakes.
https://maxima.org/forums/advanced-s...-fits-16s.html
Old Feb 14, 2015 | 02:54 PM
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Did a couple hard stops on the highway and WOW. Locked up the driver side, maybe both once. Stopping power is night and day, I'll try to measure with torque app.

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These won't fit behind 15s will they?
Old Feb 14, 2015 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisMan287
These won't fit behind 15s will they?
Not a chance, did you follow the link and see the trouble to clear 16s?

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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 06:56 PM
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Not a chance, did you follow the link and see the trouble to clear 16s?
Yes, I saw the link.

I thought one of the fast 6th gen guys ran 15s with slicks. Could be wrong.
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Idk, its possible guess.

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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 08:03 PM
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Yes, I saw the link.

I thought one of the fast 6th gen guys ran 15s with slicks. Could be wrong.
You're probably thinking of krazy6, he had FD RX7 wheels.
Old Feb 15, 2015 | 04:52 AM
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You're probably thinking of krazy6, he had FD RX7 wheels.
Yes, that's who it was. I guess I'll have to look into it.

Someone local has 6th gen calipers with new pads and used slotted rotors for $100.
Old Feb 15, 2015 | 05:48 AM
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 05:42 AM
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Using an Android app, I recorded some g-force measurements while stopping pretty hard. If my math doesn't absolutely suck it looks like 1.67-1.72g.



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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 04:19 PM
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How did you remove the dust shields?
Old Feb 18, 2015 | 05:39 PM
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How did you remove the dust shields?
I used a chisel to scribe the shield in the caliper area, then I used the same chisel to knock the shield off the knuckle. I then used a pry bar to break the scribed area. After using channel locks to spread the shield open, I used the pry bar to pull the shield the rest of the way off.

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Glad to see more 4th gens doing this inexpensive upgrade. Loving mine.
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As a reference you should point out that your Mustang rims are 17"
Old Dec 12, 2015 | 03:04 PM
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Last week I ordered proper bolts for the torque member from rockauto.com. I opted to get the Carlson H817 for Dodge products, as they have a 21mm hex and should be less prone to rounding off than the H824 for Nissans with the 18mm hex. The threads measure M14x1.5x40 and will be perfect. Total cost for 4 was $22.52 shipped.


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With 6th gen brakes the length of the new bolts is not critical. Because they protrude into the void behind the rotor anyway, they do not contact the rotor unless ridiculously long.

so i'm guessing they were too short?
Old Dec 12, 2015 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by max ride 41
With 6th gen brakes the length of the new bolts is not critical. Because they protrude into the void behind the rotor anyway, they do not contact the rotor unless ridiculously long.

so i'm guessing they were too short?
The shoulders were too long and required stacked washers.
Old Dec 15, 2015 | 04:55 PM
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Today I installed the Carlson H817 Dodge caliper bracket bolts and torqued them to 110ft-lb. Fitment was perfect, the diameter of the flanged head was perfect and only two threads or so poke out of the hole.






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