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Occasional stall when turning and acceleration issue

Old 01-10-2019, 04:47 PM
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Occasional stall when turning and acceleration issue

I have a 98 Maxima SE with 140k miles. Yesterday I was making a left and stalled in the middle of the road, started back up fine and drove off. Happened a couple of weeks ago making a right turn. I did notice earlier that day and today sometimes when I accelerate it feels like the car isnt accelerating just the rpms. Any ideas?
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Fuel pump.
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Old 01-10-2019, 05:39 PM
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Automatic or stick shift?
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Automatic or stick shift?

Does it drive normally in traffic?

Does it accelerate normally on freeway on ramps?

How about up hill?
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:59 PM
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Sorry, Manual. No issues in traffic. Fine getting on, and on the freeway. No hills to try it on. It has only happened when its colder and car isn't fully warmed up.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:17 AM
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Maybe your clutch is going. Put on your emergency brake, and slowly let out the clutch while in 5th gear. The car should stall. If it doesn't. then your clutch is slipping, and ready to be replaced.
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Do you/did you experience issues when the vehicle makes/made a turn or when you turn the steering wheel?

Experiment with this a little.

If you experience stalling when the steering wheel is turned that's an indication of a malfunctioning IAC valve.

Also, with all the lights on, do any lamps seem dim?

Do you get any symptoms when the turn signals are activated?

There may be corroded ground connection that the fuel pump is tied into ... but play with this an let us know.
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All of these other guys have more experience than I. But really - you should baseline your fuel pressure FIRST. Quoting myself (bad form):

https://maxima.org/forums/4th-genera...ml#post9180745
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Clutch was rebuilt a couple years ago, it has a couple minor issues but not that. The wheel is definitely being turned when it happens. Have noticed some dimming issues and I have had a long time problem with the airbag light being on and I have to be careful in higher rpms or gauge warnings turn on and headlights can blow, its like something is shorting. If you have any suggestions on that also Id be happy to listen and try. But that has been ongoing and the turning has just recently started.
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Hard turn, engaging the power steering pump, little to no throttle in the turn, sounds to me like the power steering pump is putting strain on the pulley system, stalling you out. That would be my guess, bad power steering pump. Check fluid first...see if it's low or discolored...regardless may need to replace it.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:18 AM
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This article talks about power steering pressure switch...

https://www.yourmechanic.com/article...ressure-switch
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DozerDave View Post
. Have noticed some dimming issues and I have had a long time problem with the airbag light being on and I have to be careful in higher rpms or gauge warnings turn on and headlights can blow, its like something is shorting. If you have any suggestions on that also Id be happy to listen and try. But that has been ongoing and the turning has just recently started.
Your description of an over-voltage condition matches my own:

https://maxima.org/forums/4th-genera...ml#post9172383

Remove the battery and check the ground cable underneath it - there are pictures of it on the thread attached. In my case the factory end on my original ground cable no longer cinched up on the battery's negative post and caused "many problems". Replacing the battery was the final step in correcting my issue.

Again - fuel pressure gauges are FREE to rent. If its not getting enough gas then nothing you can do will change that outside getting fuel pressure to spec.

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I'd say that the no power even though rising rpm is probably caused by a slipping clutch.
This is most evident when one floors the gas pedal while the car is in 5th and going up a slope.

The stalling could be related to low idle speed.
What rpm does your car idle at.?

Suspect area's are the throttle body or iacv.
Both of those get dirty. CRC throttle body cleaner could help. The iacv can be removed, then cleaned with carb spray.
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:38 AM
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So Im off the next couple days and Ill have some time to work on her. Hopefully we can narrow it down. Here are the latest updates, When I got off the freeway after a 20 min drive the first light I stopped at the car stalled. Also when starting the car it fires up normally then idle drops really low almost stalling then right back to normal. My regular idle is 800-900 rpm, I feel like its always been around that.
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Your latest symptom explanation sounds like a TPS issue or a MAF issue.
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Fuel pump fuel pump fuel pump

im gonna stop posting on your thread until you're able to report observed fuel pressure

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Old 01-14-2019, 12:12 PM
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Ok, so first Ill test the fuel pump. Where should I go from there? Easiest/least expensive first to rule them out, then the more difficult/expensive? Happy to do whatever, just trying to use your experience to rule out unnecessary steps.
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So Im off the next couple days and Ill have some time to work on her. Hopefully we can narrow it down. Here are the latest updates, When I got off the freeway after a 20 min drive the first light I stopped at the car stalled. Also when starting the car it fires up normally then idle drops really low almost stalling then right back to normal. My regular idle is 800-900 rpm, I feel like its always been around that.

Since the car gets enough gas to drive on the freeway, we can assume that the fuel pump is fine.

But the iacv probably needs cleaning
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Since we're slinging ultimatums around this thread, if you don't check the power steering pump for fluid level/condition, I'm going to tell your mom.
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Since we're slinging ultimatums around this thread, if you don't check the power steering pump for fluid level/condition, I'm going to tell your mom.
It wasn't a threat - more like a cajole. He's saying he's stalling. He also mentions "electrical problems". If he can't state what the measured fuel pressure of his electrical fuel pump is then he's just shooting in the dark.

"Fuel Pump" is at the top of the troubleshooting tree. But everybody (including me) blows right through that ("Aw F I'm not doing that, its obviously getting enough gas to run") - and that's a mistake. "Stalling" = "not running" - if the PS is dragging the alternator down, or the fuel pump isn't getting 12V, then a compromised 20 year old fuel pump isn't going to continue to barely cut it under those conditions, right?

This guy is talking about the exact same things that I just got done fixing. But WTF do I know, right ? Ultimatums indeed.
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It wasn't a threat - more like a cajole. He's saying he's stalling. He also mentions "electrical problems". If he can't state what the measured fuel pressure of his electrical fuel pump is then he's just shooting in the dark.

"Fuel Pump" is at the top of the troubleshooting tree. But everybody (including me) blows right through that ("Aw F I'm not doing that, its obviously getting enough gas to run") - and that's a mistake. "Stalling" = "not running" - if the PS is dragging the alternator down, or the fuel pump isn't getting 12V, then a compromised 20 year old fuel pump isn't going to continue to barely cut it under those conditions, right?

This guy is talking about the exact same things that I just got done fixing. But WTF do I know, right ? Ultimatums indeed.
You might be right, I might be right. Don't know yet.

It''s part of the fun of diagnosing cars we can't see hear, or drive. Also based on the quality of someone's discription of how the car seems to act.

I've had fuel delivery issues on various Carson the past. Most of those occurred on the freeway.

The ones I've had idle issues,with were carbureted.
The issue was usually related to the choke. It operates some thing similar to an iacv.

Another issue back then, and possibly now, was a vaccuum leak. The vaccuum leak provided excess air, and could cause the car to stall at idle, or when the power steering pump had work to do.

At this point , your guess is as good as mine.


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... more like a cajole.
Wait ... aren't those those folks that live in the New Orleans area?

What the hell does a group of folks of French Canadian decent have to do with a stalling Maxima?

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It wasn't a threat - more like a cajole. ...Ultimatums indeed.
Best "bang" for your buck:



https://www.musiciansfriend.com/drum...s-string-cajon


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im gonna stop posting on your thread until you're able to report observed fuel pressure
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It wasn't a threat - more like a cajole.
OMG I caught you red-handed making a new post.
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OMG I caught you red-handed making a new post.
you are so right

my other intent was: stop whoring the guysí thread so he can discern Signal against Noise
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Here are some pics of the ground wire, gonna go ahead and replace that. Next Iím gonna open up and clean the iacv, anything in particular to look for besides obvious buildup or debris?

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Check if your power steering pump is leaking or not. My power steering pump leaks and stalls when I turn into my uphill driveway. But only if I'm turning all the way.
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