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Old 03-05-2002, 08:25 PM
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Acura 3.2 CL Type S

A good friend of mine has a 2002 Acura 3.2 CL Type S, we're gonna race this weekend and I'll let you know what happens.

Any speculation on how bad he'll beat me? I've raced in his car before, it's fast. Anyone else have experience with the Type S? Suggestions to give me the best chance?

Both our cars are stock, mine is a 95 SE auto.
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Does he have an auto or a manual tranny?

Either way you don't stand a chance. I'd expect him to beat you by at least 5 car lengths.. probably more like 10-12, but that depends on how well your car is running, what kind of tranny he has, and if it's a manual; how well he can drive it.
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Bad news, your an auto, and your toast. Even if you were a stock 5spd, I would say you would lose. I would aviod the race if you care about losing.
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Originally posted by Threxx
Does he have an auto or a manual tranny?

Either way you don't stand a chance. I'd expect him to beat you by at least 5 car lengths.. probably more like 10-12, but that depends on how well your car is running, what kind of tranny he has, and if it's a manual; how well he can drive it.

He has the Sequential SportShift Auto. 260 HP, 232 torque.
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Bad news, your an auto, and your toast. Even if you were a stock 5spd, I would say you would lose. I would aviod the race if you care about losing.

No, it's just for fun, he's a friend.
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From an Acura Guy

FYI: All Type S's have autos. There's no manual. And they run in the 14's stock.
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You will be toast but if you were 5spd with light mods like Cold air and Y-Pipe you would run with him, kinda

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Old 03-05-2002, 09:07 PM
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The CLS will win

They can run aleast flat 15 stock. Mid 14s with intake, y-pipe and exhaust.
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Originally posted by matty
You will be toast but if you were 5spd with light mods like Cold air and Y-Pipe you would run with him, kinda

Dont count this man out.....CL Type-S and TL type-S are not that much faster than a maxima. I dont know if hes got any mods but my friend has a 01 TL type-S and i murdered him from 20-60 when i ran into him the one time. Also BriGuyMax another memeber an the org has a friend with a cl-s and he would smoke that thing when he was stock and had a slipping clutch. These cars run low 15s when they are stock thats nothing a modded maxima cant handle....but if their modded watch out they can run in the low 14s.
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Old 03-05-2002, 09:13 PM
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No way a stock 5spd Maxima is as fast as a CL Type S...The CL-S runs mid 14's stock and high 13's low 14's with Intake Y-pipe Exhaust...Do you even know if they make a Y-Pipe for those ???...Its probably just standard headers, since its V-tec :P

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Originally posted by matty
No way a stock 5spd Maxima is as fast as a CL Type S...The CL-S runs mid 14's stock and high 13's low 14's with Intake Y-pipe Exhaust...Do you even know if they make a Y-Pipe for those ???...Its probably just standard headers, since its V-tec :P

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Here in Chicago a few of us maxima guys went to a meet Type S meet over the summer. Their time slips for stock cl and tl type-s were all in the low 15s. Then they also had some slips after they modded them and almost every run was in the 14s. Ask Nealoc187 about how he raped a few type-s acura at the track last time he went with just a y-pipe and the other guy had every bolt on possible. As to you sayin they run mid 14s stock i would love to see a time slip because from what i have seen around the odds of that are slim.
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Old 03-05-2002, 09:26 PM
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So the regular CL-TL's run mid 15's ?? I thaught the CL-S's were really fast...Now I have to challange a kid from town that just bought a brand new one...After I get my y-pipe that is, just to make is sure
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I'm still waiting to race Russ.
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Old 03-05-2002, 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by CHI99Limited
Dont count this man out.....CL Type-S and TL type-S are not that much faster than a maxima. I dont know if hes got any mods but my friend has a 01 TL type-S and i murdered him from 20-60 when i ran into him the one time. Also BriGuyMax another memeber an the org has a friend with a cl-s and he would smoke that thing when he was stock and had a slipping clutch. These cars run low 15s when they are stock thats nothing a modded maxima cant handle....but if their modded watch out they can run in the low 14s.
Doesnt seem like you know your stuff. Making such arguments with inaccurate information you think is right is not the way to go. Acura TL's never had the S option until 2002. The 2001 TL's all had the 225 hp engine. That would still probably beat a stock auto max...dont know for sure about the manuals. My dad's 2001 CL-S auto chirps into second, its been said to be one of the few stock autos that can chirp the tires into second. ok, so chirping the tires doesnt exactly mean its extremely fast, but well, it IS really fast. This car compares with the '02 maximas, and for 2003 acura is introducing the 6-speed manual for them. I raced my friend's '02 max with the CL-S a few runs and it was close, but he wasnt able to beat me. I had him by at least 1/2 car lengths. if your car is stock and you're an auto and you beat your friends '01 TL, i would have to say i highly doubt that claim. And if you did beat him, that just shows your friend doesnt know how to use an accelerator pedal.
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Old 03-05-2002, 10:54 PM
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These are all just opinions. Everybody is hard headed.
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Old 03-06-2002, 05:00 AM
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Re: The CLS will win

Originally posted by 1MAX2NV
They can run aleast flat 15 stock. Mid 14s with intake, y-pipe and exhaust.
Which means mnuts will not get killed. I raced one at Maxus last year and the CL-S got about 1 1/2 car lengths between my front bumper and his rear. Plus my car was running slow as hell down there.

mnuts you will loose but not terribly. I am your proof as long as your tuned and tranny is shifting right.
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Old 03-06-2002, 05:04 AM
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Your only hope of winning is to pray that his weak azz tranny will explode mid-race. Keep in mind, this is a very real possibility...


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Old 03-06-2002, 06:16 AM
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Re: From an Acura Guy

Originally posted by 97whitese5spd
FYI: All Type S's have autos. There's no manual. And they run in the 14's stock.
This isn't true anymore - Acura just came out with a 6 speed model. Watch out Maximas!!!
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Old 03-06-2002, 06:42 AM
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My 2 cents

Hey,

Even if you lose does it really matter, look at the spec 260 hp vs 190 hp , and if you did lose by 1 length that is nothing to boast about.

Later
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Old 03-06-2002, 06:50 AM
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I raced a CL-S from 0 to 80. We were even and maybe he got a bumper on me at around 80, but that could have been something else, we were fast approaching a corner and he went for it, I didn't. That was when I had a CAI only. Now I have a CAI and Y. Gotta find another CL-S to race

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Old 03-06-2002, 07:00 AM
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I don't know what the heck track you guys are going to, but I have never, ever, ever seen a TL-S or CL-S run a 14 second stock 1/4 mile. Ever. And I've been to the track alot, and seen them there, alot. I have never lost to a CL-S/TL-S, and I've raced 3 of them. Two of them are fully N/A modded, including these famous Comptech headers. They are a 14.3 capable car on a COLD DAY IN HELL. I know a guy whos run a 14.3 in one, but I have never ever seen it. The quickest time I've ever seen for a Type S with my own eyes is a 14.68, that was against me. I ran a 14.50 on that particular run. Are they capable of low 14s with mods, sure. Can any driver pull those kind of times out of them, heck no. CHI99's auto moves, I don't think its a typical auto and I believe him when he said he's beaten a TL-S. Perhaps he got the year mixed up or just typed it wrong, but anyone who thinks their regular TL will give him a run is in for a RUDE awakening.

BTW, to the guy who said there's no 6spd CL-S, you might wanna check your info, I've pressed the clutch on one...
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Old 03-06-2002, 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by Stillen_I30


Doesnt seem like you know your stuff. Making such arguments with inaccurate information you think is right is not the way to go. Acura TL's never had the S option until 2002. The 2001 TL's all had the 225 hp engine. That would still probably beat a stock auto max...dont know for sure about the manuals. My dad's 2001 CL-S auto chirps into second, its been said to be one of the few stock autos that can chirp the tires into second. ok, so chirping the tires doesnt exactly mean its extremely fast, but well, it IS really fast. This car compares with the '02 maximas, and for 2003 acura is introducing the 6-speed manual for them. I raced my friend's '02 max with the CL-S a few runs and it was close, but he wasnt able to beat me. I had him by at least 1/2 car lengths. if your car is stock and you're an auto and you beat your friends '01 TL, i would have to say i highly doubt that claim. And if you did beat him, that just shows your friend doesnt know how to use an accelerator pedal.
The car must have been a 2002 then, i raced him at the end of the summer and would have thought it was an 01. Anyways his car is a TL Type-S for sure. I was coming home from work and he was with another one of my friends who has a GTP, he stuck his head out the window when i was behind him and asked if i wanted to run. I then told him to make a right at the light. We both made the right I put my car in first gear and was moving up on him when my front end hit his bumper he nailed it(20mph we atrted at). I then pulled the car lenght back that he started with and pulled another 1/2 car by the time we hit 65. Acura Cl-S do not compare to the 02 maximas speed wise because the Acura runs 15s and the Max runs 14s. I wish i had a video of what i did to this car for all you clowns who think they are "really fast". Also like i said in my previous post stock 5spds(BriGuyMax) have smoke d these cars before and I have seen it.
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The thing with Acura V-6es is that the save the DOHC for the king NSX. All other Honda/Acura V-6es are SOHC. What does that mean on the street? Not too good torque down low, then VTEC kicks in at the high end to make up for it. Maximas, with DOHC V-6s, have a broader torque range.

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Originally posted by dwapenyi
The thing with Acura V-6es is that the save the DOHC for the king NSX. All other Honda/Acura V-6es are SOHC. What does that mean on the street? Not too good torque down low, then VTEC kicks in at the high end to make up for it. Maximas, with DOHC V-6s, have a broader torque range.

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I just had a co-worker at my desk saying his V6 Accord has dual cams.
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Originally posted by CHI99Limited


Dont count this man out.....CL Type-S and TL type-S are not that much faster than a maxima. I dont know if hes got any mods but my friend has a 01 TL type-S and i murdered him from 20-60 when i ran into him the one time. Also BriGuyMax another memeber an the org has a friend with a cl-s and he would smoke that thing when he was stock and had a slipping clutch. These cars run low 15s when they are stock thats nothing a modded maxima cant handle....but if their modded watch out they can run in the low 14s.
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Originally posted by deezo
I just had a co-worker at my desk saying his V6 Accord has dual cams.
unless he has a Prelude motor in there.. he is full of ****

http://www.hondacars.com/models/acco.../features.html
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Furhtermore, people need to stop sleeping on autos. I know I've been faster than some 5 speeds at the track.
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Originally posted by deezo
I just had a co-worker at my desk saying his V6 Accord has dual cams.
yeah...as in one cam on each bank!

All Accord V6's, and even the TL/CL and even the "almighty" CL-S/TL-S's are SOHC, not DOHC.

Trust me...I would know
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
yeah...as in one cam on each bank!

All Accord V6's, and even the TL/CL and even the "almighty" CL-S/TL-S's are SOHC, not DOHC.

Trust me...I would know
new name SteVOHC
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
yeah...as in one cam on each bank!

All Accord V6's, and even the TL/CL and even the "almighty" CL-S/TL-S's are SOHC, not DOHC.

Trust me...I would know
He wants to race me too. I'm going to let him mod up so I can race him in stock form. Sprint claims I can keep up with him pretty good but I don't think so.
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He wants to race me too. I'm going to let him mod up so I can race him in stock form. This will be run. Sprint claims I can keep up with him pretty good but I don't think so.
you can.. the SprintMan doesn't lie..
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You should make a bet with him. The only DOHC VTEC V-6 in Acura/Honda's entire lineup is the mighty NSX. NSX got all the toys.

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Originally posted by deezo
I just had a co-worker at my desk saying his V6 Accord has dual cams.
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type s is fast

i just read road and track and these ***** are real fast. they have 260 hp!!! the time was mid 14's tested
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Well actually the type s is really not that fast. Keep in mind that magazines are not always accurate...especially when a car companies *** is on the line....($$$$) but anywyas i have raced a type s the 4 door one...and i killed it..( I have a gsr) it was on the freeway so maybe they arent as fast i dont know. If you have an auto with no mods of course you will lose, but who know the other driver might not be good at driving it. Anything is possible when you race someone on the streets. Just because a magazine tells you the 1/4 mile for a car doesnt mean ****. (as I have learned)
 
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My father has one and I've driven it quite a bit. Also, I have raced several ones, both at the track and on the streets.

My Maxima with Intake, Y, and Exhaust would be equal in first gear, 1/2 length lead in second.

On the freeway 3rd gear would be the same, 4th he'd pull a skoash, and in 5th I'd waste him.

At the track I ran a corrected time of 14.3 and another CL ran a corrected time of 14.8
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