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Old 05-05-2002 | 08:51 PM
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Ian you should mirror my page so that people can see the gains a little more clearly (and you'll get fewer questions ). Mr. Cranman is taking orders on an individual basis from what I know. I am working with Keven97SE to see if we can figure out a few more things about how the VI could be installed/wired. I've also been wondering where speedtrip has been. Doesn't he have his hardware yet
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What do you mean wiring? I think it's only going to go one way. Or do you mean just make the wiring cleaner?

Anyway, send me the link to that page again...I will mirror it.

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Old 05-05-2002 | 08:58 PM
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What do you mean wiring? I think it's only going to go one way. Or do you mean just make the wiring cleaner?

Anyway, send me the link to that page again...I will mirror it.

IanS
Here's the link http://www.vanillaice.com/webmasters/hype/iansw/ian.htm

And since we're all in the same boat together I'll just tell you Keven's idea even though we're not sure if it's possible yet.
Keven went shopping for parts and looked in the FSM to figure out what some of the connectors under the hood are for. His hypothesis is that one of the connectors under the hood is already a rpm switch. He's going to pull out his multimeter and test to see if one of the sockets starts putting out a 12v signal after the ~5k that would activate the VI. It would make sense that the wiring is already there but is unused, because Nissan probably didn't make a
special harness just for the Middle Eastern market.

Edit: If the rpm switch does exist that means we don't need a Harlan rpm switch
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Old 05-05-2002 | 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by xHypex

Here's the link http://www.vanillaice.com/webmasters/hype/iansw/ian.htm

And since we're all in the same boat together I'll just tell you Keven's idea even though we're not sure if it's possible yet.
Keven went shopping for parts and looked in the FSM to figure out what some of the connectors under the hood are for. His hypothesis is that one of the connectors under the hood is already a rpm switch. He's going to pull out his multimeter and test to see if one of the sockets starts putting out a 12v signal after the ~5k that would activate the VI. It would make sense that the wiring is already there but is unused, because Nissan probably didn't make a
special harness just for the Middle Eastern market.

Edit: If the rpm switch does exist that means we don't need a Harlan rpm switch
-hype
Dude, that kicks azz!

I had the thought of looking for it too, but didn't know where to start.

Good luck and let us know!

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Old 05-05-2002 | 10:09 PM
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I would think the FSM pubished in the foreign markets would show whether or not an rpm switched wire was all ready provided. Maybe someone can find one IanS, where did you get the blow up illustration of the additional parts? Maybe that source can provide the info?? This would be real nice if there is one all ready provided.
Old 05-05-2002 | 10:28 PM
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I would think the FSM pubished in the foreign markets would show whether or not an rpm switched wire was all ready provided. Maybe someone can find one IanS, where did you get the blow up illustration of the additional parts? Maybe that source can provide the info?? This would be real nice if there is one all ready provided.
Well, I like Hypes idea. I will talk to my contact and see what we can find out about the RPM switch already included on the Maxima model. The one problem is that it might not be included on cars earlier that 1997...because I don't think they included the Variable intake on the 95 and 96 model...I feel that it was something to keep people interested in the car but I might be wrong. But, I'll ask my contact if he can get a wiring diagram or FSM to see how it hooks up
Old 05-05-2002 | 10:46 PM
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I just got home...

And the VI was waiting for me. I didn't know that USPS delivered on Sunday. Anyway, I put it together and it is the right pieces. I will be installing it on Tuesday. Just waiting for the RPM switch. Just thought I would keep everyone posted. So, by this weekend I should have a dyno for a 5spd. Man I haven't been able to stop smiling just having the VI in my possesion.
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Take notes or pics if you can. I know you'll be busy but it would be very helpful for us others.
Old 05-05-2002 | 11:00 PM
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Re: I just got home...

Originally posted by Mr Cranman
And the VI was waiting for me. I didn't know that USPS delivered on Sunday. Anyway, I put it together and it is the right pieces. I will be installing it on Tuesday. Just waiting for the RPM switch. Just thought I would keep everyone posted. So, by this weekend I should have a dyno for a 5spd. Man I haven't been able to stop smiling just having the VI in my possesion.
I know that feeling. I had to take 2 days off of work to put it on because I couldn't wait until the weekend!

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Old 05-07-2002 | 08:10 AM
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Mr. Cranman, let me know when you're going to install it, I wanna see it!
Old 05-07-2002 | 08:20 AM
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I'll be installing thursday

Originally posted by 96SE NUH?
Mr. Cranman, let me know when you're going to install it, I wanna see it!
I will be installing Thursday, and Dynoing Friday or Saturday.

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Old 05-07-2002 | 08:28 AM
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Mr Cranman a few questions, my apologies if they have already been answered there are a lot of threads on this to try to keep up with.

Do you expect any customs problems with these and if there are any problems is it the buyers responsibility?

Do you plan on doing any VI on and VI off 1/4 mile runs? These would show just how effective the broader power curve is. Ians runs in his auto might be more consistent, but I think a 5 speed might make better use of the new high RPM power.

Can we pay for this with a credit card?

Is there any cost estimate on the other parts needed to make this work?

I really can't afford this right now but it might be to good to pass up. If there is a already a wire to activate the vacuum switch that would be about $50 less to install it and make it that much more tempting. In any case, thanks for doing this.
Old 05-07-2002 | 08:56 AM
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Sorry, prolly didnt know who the he// that was , 96SE NUh? That was my friends screen name, he was logged in, and not me , but that was me talking, let me know when you're installing.
Old 05-07-2002 | 09:00 AM
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Actually, I fully expect the 1/4 mile times in an auto to be MORE improvement than 5sp.

5speeds lose less power at high RPM's without the VI.
The VI helps autos more, is what I'm saying.

But then again, until someone with a 5spd Dynos, we don't know for sure. It's just my opinion right now.

I'm doing the 1/4 mile run on Friday.

IanS
Old 05-07-2002 | 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by Anachronism
Mr Cranman a few questions, my apologies if they have already been answered there are a lot of threads on this to try to keep up with.

Can we pay for this with a credit card?
If he has a Paypal account you could send him the money that way, but you'd have to add the Paypal fee for the additional cost, which I think is about 2%.
Old 05-07-2002 | 09:17 AM
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with a S/C?

Sorry for butting in but just a question, would the VI enhance the use of a SuperCharger?
Old 05-07-2002 | 09:19 AM
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Re: with a S/C?

Originally posted by MarcGXE95
Sorry for butting in but just a question, would the VI enhance the use of a SuperCharger?
Yes. Even more so.

See MardisGrasMax'es thread "Dyno with S/C + 40 shot!"

He has the VI installed, and gains 25hp peak, PLUS gets the curve benifits.

Actually, now that I have the VI, it makes me want to get an S/C even more.

I beilieve I still have 2 slots open for my Group Deal.

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Old 05-07-2002 | 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by iansw
Actually, I fully expect the 1/4 mile times in an auto to be MORE improvement than 5sp.

5speeds lose less power at high RPM's without the VI.
The VI helps autos more, is what I'm saying.

But then again, until someone with a 5spd Dynos, we don't know for sure. It's just my opinion right now.

I'm doing the 1/4 mile run on Friday.

IanS
Now that I think about it you are probably right. I was thinking that the auto would shift to early, but if you shift your auto manualy near redline the broader power curve will benifit the autos more widly spaced gears. In any case the more info we have the better.
Old 05-07-2002 | 09:28 AM
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I've also been wondering where speedtrip has been. Doesn't he have his hardware yet
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I have been busy this past week. I have all of the parts and I should complete the installation tonight. I finished all the wiring last night. I decided to mount the RPM switch and relay inside the passenger compartment which is a lot more work. I think the constant temperature changes inside the engine compartment will affect the longevity of the RPM switch. Dyno will come later in the week.

Mr. Cranman when you go to put the VI manifold on put down the new gasket and bolt the egr tube and rear manifold bolts first. If you secure the front manifold bolts first you will not have enough play to match up the rear VI bolt holes with the brackets. Oh and don't forget to put the egr tube gasket on!
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Re: Re: with a S/C?

Sent me some info on the groupe deal, also could it be sent directly to Canada also?
Old 05-07-2002 | 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by Anachronism

Now that I think about it you are probably right. I was thinking that the auto would shift to early, but if you shift your auto manualy near redline the broader power curve will benifit the autos more widly spaced gears. In any case the more info we have the better.
Yup Yup!

Like I said...I'm off to the track on Friday.

And my PayPal problems will be cleared up by then.
Old 05-07-2002 | 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by Anachronism
Mr Cranman a few questions, my apologies if they have already been answered there are a lot of threads on this to try to keep up with.

Do you expect any customs problems with these and if there are any problems is it the buyers responsibility?

Do you plan on doing any VI on and VI off 1/4 mile runs? These would show just how effective the broader power curve is. Ians runs in his auto might be more consistent, but I think a 5 speed might make better use of the new high RPM power.

Can we pay for this with a credit card?

Is there any cost estimate on the other parts needed to make this work?

I really can't afford this right now but it might be to good to pass up. If there is a already a wire to activate the vacuum switch that would be about $50 less to install it and make it that much more tempting. In any case, thanks for doing this.
First off no custom problems. Got the VI through customs in like 1 day...so no worries there.

If I had a 1/4 mile track here in Albuquerque I sure would...Even if there was one close by like an hour or 2 I wouldn't mine going but I don't know of any. I could get a G-tech pro or something and try that on and off. Do, like 8 runs off 8 runs on

You could do CC from Pay Pal but that is the only way that I could think of doing CC.

People are looking into the ECU to see if there is an RPM switch on the Max that just isn't used. It will probably be 97 and later models because I think that is when they started putting it on the Max overseas. But, I will be running this for a while. It isn't really a group deal so when people get the money I can order it. Depending on the demand. So there is no rush, and I think once people start getting them the demand might increase.

-John
Old 05-07-2002 | 06:33 PM
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I also hope to have mine installed this weekend
Old 05-09-2002 | 12:20 AM
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Got the group deal info up

Will be getting an update on the Plastic engine cover to make the Engine Bay look better. But for people interested in just purchasing the VI without the cover you can put in an order. Check out the Group Deal page.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=118627

-John
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Is Roswell too far to travel for 1/4 mile track?
Old 05-09-2002 | 06:40 AM
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Be careful with PayPal. They may do to you what they did to me.

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What about smog? Does anyone know if it will pass smog testing, both inspection and emissions, here in California?
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Good question. It shouldn't really be an issue b/c the VI is just like a an intake. It is only modifying the way and quantity of air getting into the engine. Your ECU and O2 sensors should be able to happily compensate for the slight difference tha the VI brings to the engine.

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What about smog? Does anyone know if it will pass smog testing, both inspection and emissions, here in California?
Old 05-09-2002 | 03:24 PM
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Got it installed.

Got it installed. Only took about 2 hours to put on. But, we don't have the RPM switch so I can see another hour or so getting the Vacuum mounted and working correctly, but because we didn't have the RPM switch yet we just set it up to always be open and it pull great all the way through the red line...of course missing some pull around 3500 -4500...but it passes my butt dyno. =)
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Re: Got it installed.

Originally posted by Mr Cranman
Got it installed. Only took about 2 hours to put on. But, we don't have the RPM switch so I can see another hour or so getting the Vacuum mounted and working correctly, but because we didn't have the RPM switch yet we just set it up to always be open and it pull great all the way through the red line...of course missing some pull around 3500 -4500...but it passes my butt dyno. =)
Yep..kick azz, eh!?

I myself am heading to the track tomorrow afternoon. I will post times afterwards.

IanS
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Re: Re: Got it installed.

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Yep..kick azz, eh!?

I myself am heading to the track tomorrow afternoon. I will post times afterwards.

IanS
Can't wait to see that. Oh one real cool thing is that on some of the newer pavement in the city. When accelerating through first gear I hear a little chrip around 6000RPM with the extra pull it has. And this isn't dropping the clutch or anything this is just pressing on the gas from the stop. It rocked. I seriously believe this is a must have mod.

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Old 05-09-2002 | 03:35 PM
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Can't wait to see that. Oh one real cool thing is that on some of the newer pavement in the city. When accelerating through first gear I hear a little chrip around 6000RPM with the extra pull it has. And this isn't dropping the clutch or anything this is just pressing on the gas from the stop. It rocked. I seriously believe this is a must have mod.

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Of course we think that.........


We're the ones selling them!

Old 05-09-2002 | 03:50 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Got it installed.

Hey Ian chech your hotmail account.

I swear it's always the RPM switch that holds things up.
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Hey Ian chech your hotmail account.

I swear it's always the RPM switch that holds things up.
Re-check your account, Speedtrip.
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Anything to report?



I've been waiting all day for this dyno :P
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Anything to report?



I've been waiting all day for this dyno :P
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Yes. Very interesting information will soon be at hand. I am scanning and cleaning up the dynoes now. As I complete them I am sending them to IanS to host.
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Yes. Very interesting information will soon be at hand. I am scanning and cleaning up the dynoes now. As I complete them I am sending them to IanS to host.
Cool stuff. Do you by chance have the dyno data files? If possible I was going to try to put together more statistical analysis like I did on Ian's dynoes. Granted permission of course.
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Still no RPM switch

Just wanted to give everybody the heads up on what was going on. Still no RPM switch, but decided to take the car out with the VI left in the open position for some good ol' street racing. Got some good races in. Didn't have a lose that night. The notable mentions was killing a BMW 3 series that had a nice drop and exhaust, he was a really cool guy and suggested we pick on a Z28 that was out. So, we picked on the Z-28 went from a role at about 25 or so to 75. We were dead even through 5000RPMs then I started to pull on him about a 1/4 of a car length, by the time we quit, just if I had lost my mid range I would have probably been a 1/2 a car length ahead. My guess was it was an automatic, but it was still a good race, but that guy wouldn't even talk to us. He also had 3 people in his car to our 2, but still mark him up on the kill list. I can say the reason I one that race was because of the VI!!!

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Old 05-19-2002 | 05:56 PM
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Still no RPM switch...

I don't know what is going on with the RPM switch. It has been 2 1/2 weeks and no switch. So, I did what any red blooded maxima enthusiast would do. I wired the MAP/Baro switch from a pulsar up to the vacuum canister, and just routed a wire for the ground of the MAP/Baro switch to the inside of the car(I might just have a button to press) Anywho, I have someone sit shotgun and just ground it when it gets to 5000RPMs. I have to say when my VI kicks on that it jumps on. Like it just skips like 300RPM like super quick. It pulls and is a lot of fun. This thing rocks. Just thought I would give everybody a heads up to where I am with the VI.

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Re: Still no RPM switch...

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[B]I don't know what is going on with the RPM switch. It has been 2 1/2 weeks and no switch. B]
Give Harlan a call. That is way too long. On his site, he gives lead times and apparently the switches are in stock--says they are sent usually within 3 days of order. He sends them USPS with delivery confirmation, if I remember right.
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Give Harlan a call. That is way too long. On his site, he gives lead times and apparently the switches are in stock--says they are sent usually within 3 days of order. He sends them USPS with delivery confirmation, if I remember right.
I dropped him an email but didn't get a response...that is a good idea I will give him a call on Monday see what is going on. I forgot that he listed a phone number I'm just so used to doing everything through email and computers that I forget I can actually get offline and call him. Actually talk to a human being. At the current time though I'm satisfied with having my friend riding shotgun grounding it for me.


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