friend just bought a 2002 altima 3.5
06-01-2002, 08:41 PM
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friend just bought a 2002 altima 3.5
i have an auto max with intake, y-pipe and catback exhaust and my friend just got a new altima 3.5 auto. he wants to race me has any auto max raced one? i have done some searching but havent found a whole lot. i am guessing from driving my car and never taking it to the track that i am about at a 15.4-15.6 but im not sure what the new auto altimas run. any info would be appreciated.
06-01-2002, 08:44 PM
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You will lose. Miserabley. 
The auto 2k2 Altimas run about the same time as the auto 2k2 Maximas - mid to high 14s. Low 15s if the driver needs a little practice (which he might considering the car is new to him).
-Cyrus
The auto 2k2 Altimas run about the same time as the auto 2k2 Maximas - mid to high 14s. Low 15s if the driver needs a little practice (which he might considering the car is new to him).-Cyrus
06-01-2002, 08:50 PM
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Well the MAGS got like 7.2 0-60 for the Auto's, but we all know that's probubly not accurate.
The thing is, on the streets, I doubt you'll race up to 100mph, and thats where any kind of bolt-on helps..on the high end. But if in fact you do, this is how it's gonna go: He'll take you off the line pretty badly, but you'll probubly reel him in and end up at his rear bumper by 100mph. More realisticly about 1 car length behind..but he should embarrasse you off the line.
So, we've learned 3 lessons today kids:
1)Mag times suck 70% of the time
2)If you DO race up to high speeds, you will probubly be at his rear or close behind by the end
3)Newbies, if you want more ***** off the line and down low, there is nothing you can do except buy a 5-speed manual. Otherwise, it's hopeless and your screwed...maybe boost, but that's it. Y-pipes and straight-pipes and cat-backs will just lag you if anything. Please...sell the family cruiser and get yourself something with serious muscle.
The thing is, on the streets, I doubt you'll race up to 100mph, and thats where any kind of bolt-on helps..on the high end. But if in fact you do, this is how it's gonna go: He'll take you off the line pretty badly, but you'll probubly reel him in and end up at his rear bumper by 100mph. More realisticly about 1 car length behind..but he should embarrasse you off the line.
So, we've learned 3 lessons today kids:
1)Mag times suck 70% of the time
2)If you DO race up to high speeds, you will probubly be at his rear or close behind by the end
3)Newbies, if you want more ***** off the line and down low, there is nothing you can do except buy a 5-speed manual. Otherwise, it's hopeless and your screwed...maybe boost, but that's it. Y-pipes and straight-pipes and cat-backs will just lag you if anything. Please...sell the family cruiser and get yourself something with serious muscle.
06-01-2002, 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by JR_Anders
So what if you have a manual? Could I beat a new (auto) Altima if I get a y pipe & intake?
So what if you have a manual? Could I beat a new (auto) Altima if I get a y pipe & intake?
06-01-2002, 09:10 PM
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Re: friend just bought a 2002 altima 3.5
Originally posted by SeBlackMax97
i have an auto max with intake, y-pipe and catback exhaust and my friend just got a new altima 3.5 auto. he wants to race me has any auto max raced one? i have done some searching but havent found a whole lot. i am guessing from driving my car and never taking it to the track that i am about at a 15.4-15.6 but im not sure what the new auto altimas run. any info would be appreciated.
i have an auto max with intake, y-pipe and catback exhaust and my friend just got a new altima 3.5 auto. he wants to race me has any auto max raced one? i have done some searching but havent found a whole lot. i am guessing from driving my car and never taking it to the track that i am about at a 15.4-15.6 but im not sure what the new auto altimas run. any info would be appreciated.
Anyways, don't quote me but I think they run around the low 15s and come with 245 caballos. Nonetheless, I think you should go for it. What do you have to lose?...well, besides your dignity. 
P.S. You can always wait for the results when I get my CAI and y-pipe
installed and I race my brother again.
06-01-2002, 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by JR_Anders
So what if you have a manual? Could I beat a new (auto) Altima if I get a y pipe & intake?
So what if you have a manual? Could I beat a new (auto) Altima if I get a y pipe & intake?
No, you will not beat him. They dynoed at 197-200 FWHP (Couple of people did this). He has more FWHP then you have HP at your flywheel. The only saving grace you might have is weight..... Which I doubt will impact much in your case.
A 3.5SE auto does 15 seconds flat @ 91 MPH in the quarter. He might be able to squeeze 14.9 if he is a really good driver and weighs 140lbs soaking wet. LOL!
It does 8.61secs in the 1/8 mile.
So unless you are breaking into the 14 sec range in the 1/4, you are toast.
The manual does 14.7 @ 95MPH, with a CAI it does 14.3@98MPH.
0-60MPH is 6.29 and a 6.34 in a auto.
The difference between the 2k2 Max and Alt are the timing and cams.. Or so I hear.
I know my Altima's.
06-01-2002, 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by DeRaNgEd
No, you will not beat him. They dynoed at 197-200 FWHP (Couple of people did this). He has more FWHP then you have HP at your flywheel. The only saving grace you might have is weight..... Which I doubt will impact much in your case.
A 3.5SE auto does 15 seconds flat @ 91 MPH in the quarter. He might be able to squeeze 14.9 if he is a really good driver and weighs 140lbs soaking wet. LOL!
It does 8.61secs in the 1/8 mile.
So unless you are breaking into the 14 sec range in the 1/4, you are toast.
The manual does 14.7 @ 95MPH, with a CAI it does 14.3@98MPH.
0-60MPH is 6.29 and a 6.34 in a auto.
The difference between the 2k2 Max and Alt are the timing and cams.. Or so I hear.
I know my Altima's.
No, you will not beat him. They dynoed at 197-200 FWHP (Couple of people did this). He has more FWHP then you have HP at your flywheel. The only saving grace you might have is weight..... Which I doubt will impact much in your case.
A 3.5SE auto does 15 seconds flat @ 91 MPH in the quarter. He might be able to squeeze 14.9 if he is a really good driver and weighs 140lbs soaking wet. LOL!
It does 8.61secs in the 1/8 mile.
So unless you are breaking into the 14 sec range in the 1/4, you are toast.
The manual does 14.7 @ 95MPH, with a CAI it does 14.3@98MPH.
0-60MPH is 6.29 and a 6.34 in a auto.
The difference between the 2k2 Max and Alt are the timing and cams.. Or so I hear.
I know my Altima's.
06-02-2002, 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
If you have a 4th Gen Manual, with a y pipe and intake, and your a good driver, you should beat him with ease. You will probubly beat him off the line, and in a quarter mile race you'd win...unless your a Novice shifter.
If you have a 4th Gen Manual, with a y pipe and intake, and your a good driver, you should beat him with ease. You will probubly beat him off the line, and in a quarter mile race you'd win...unless your a Novice shifter.
i highly dout this.....it should be a close race not with ease
06-02-2002, 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by kevlo911
i highly dout this.....it should be a close race not with ease
i highly dout this.....it should be a close race not with ease
-Cyrus
06-02-2002, 08:32 AM
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if his car is like, brand spankin new, i bet it'll be runnin a lil slower than it shud be. i heard that if engines aren't broken in yet, they can run around half a second slower in the 1/4 mile. i thought i hurd this sumwhere but im not rilly sure about this, but if it's tru, it'd even up the race a lil.
06-02-2002, 05:40 PM
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FYI I own a 97 Max SE auto and a 2002 Altima SE 3.5 Auto and the Alty will leave the Max sitting. My broter has a 91 300ZX twin turbo which he was given a big suprise by the alty from 0-70 as I stayed with him and was starting to pull him before my wife started screaming at me!
He was alone and I still stuck with him, he claims his turbos were not warmed up yet? The Max is a great car but the Alty runs like a batt out of hell even in auto form!
He was alone and I still stuck with him, he claims his turbos were not warmed up yet? The Max is a great car but the Alty runs like a batt out of hell even in auto form!
06-03-2002, 04:59 AM
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Originally posted by Big_Ham
I don't know about you guys, but this guy seems like an Altima Freak like we are Maxima Freaks. I'll trust him and go by his numbers. They all sound right, that's for damned sure ...
I don't know about you guys, but this guy seems like an Altima Freak like we are Maxima Freaks. I'll trust him and go by his numbers. They all sound right, that's for damned sure ...
Been there for over a year. Yes, I am/was a Altima freak, now I'm going to be a Maxima nutcase.Thanks for the compliment.
06-03-2002, 07:17 AM
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Ummm, last time I checked, a 4th gen 5-speed will not run a 15 flat in the 1/4 mile. Come to think of it, neither will a 3.0L 5th gen. This includes bolt-ons.
Look, unless the Altima guy is a moron and completely, utterly, stupidly, screws up his launch, you're dead. The VQ35DE, with its higher torque, higher horsepower, variable intake runners, and variable valve timing will provide him with a much wider powerband. So, even with your bolt-on stuff, you don't stand a chance of doing anything except admiring his tailights. Sorry kid, but don't even bother racing the guy unless you know for a fact that he's going to be spinning his tires through all of first gear.
This race is not worth losing your license and your car. Go to a drag strip and have some nice male bonding time. Then lose gracefully.
Look, unless the Altima guy is a moron and completely, utterly, stupidly, screws up his launch, you're dead. The VQ35DE, with its higher torque, higher horsepower, variable intake runners, and variable valve timing will provide him with a much wider powerband. So, even with your bolt-on stuff, you don't stand a chance of doing anything except admiring his tailights. Sorry kid, but don't even bother racing the guy unless you know for a fact that he's going to be spinning his tires through all of first gear.
This race is not worth losing your license and your car. Go to a drag strip and have some nice male bonding time. Then lose gracefully.
06-03-2002, 07:26 AM
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Aww, why didn't he buy a manual 3.5SE? That's the only way to fly with the new Altimas in my book
Hehe, I'm surprised that didn't spark another auto/manual argument.
It's not everyday that you see someone post something like that when they drive an auto themselves. Seems like the auto maxima guys are usually real adamant about their machine-shifted rides
Whatever's fun for the driver!
Newbies, if you want more ***** off the line and down low, there is nothing you can do except buy a 5-speed manual. Otherwise, it's hopeless and your screwed...maybe boost, but that's it. Y-pipes and straight-pipes and cat-backs will just lag you if anything. Please...sell the family cruiser and get yourself something with serious muscle.
It's not everyday that you see someone post something like that when they drive an auto themselves. Seems like the auto maxima guys are usually real adamant about their machine-shifted rides
Whatever's fun for the driver!
06-03-2002, 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by blizz20oma
Aww, why didn't he buy a manual 3.5SE? That's the only way to fly with the new Altimas in my book
Hehe, I'm surprised that didn't spark another auto/manual argument.
It's not everyday that you see someone post something like that when they drive an auto themselves. Seems like the auto maxima guys are usually real adamant about their machine-shifted rides
Whatever's fun for the driver!
Aww, why didn't he buy a manual 3.5SE? That's the only way to fly with the new Altimas in my book
Hehe, I'm surprised that didn't spark another auto/manual argument.
It's not everyday that you see someone post something like that when they drive an auto themselves. Seems like the auto maxima guys are usually real adamant about their machine-shifted rides
Whatever's fun for the driver!
06-03-2002, 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by SleeperSE
Ummm, last time I checked, a 4th gen 5-speed will not run a 15 flat in the 1/4 mile. Come to think of it, neither will a 3.0L 5th gen. This includes bolt-ons.
Ummm, last time I checked, a 4th gen 5-speed will not run a 15 flat in the 1/4 mile. Come to think of it, neither will a 3.0L 5th gen. This includes bolt-ons.
Look, unless the Altima guy is a moron and completely, utterly, stupidly, screws up his launch, you're dead. The VQ35DE, with its higher torque, higher horsepower, variable intake runners, and variable valve timing will provide him with a much wider powerband. So, even with your bolt-on stuff, you don't stand a chance of doing anything except admiring his tailights. Sorry kid, but don't even bother racing the guy unless you know for a fact that he's going to be spinning his tires through all of first gear.
If the Magizines are SOMEWHAT close (7.3 0-60), then with the Maxima would stand a chance stock, nevermind modded.
This race is not worth losing your license and your car.
06-03-2002, 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
Not to mention the hundreds of pounds of weight that the Altima has over the much lighter Maxima.
Not to mention the hundreds of pounds of weight that the Altima has over the much lighter Maxima.
. The Auto 2K2 Alt is 3,227lbs.From what I can tell the 97 Maxima is 3,100-3,200 roughly. The 2 main reasons why the Altima weighs more is because it has .5 liters of more motor and a Auto tranny.
For every one hundreds of pounds you reduce or add it's equals about .113 secs in the 1/4 mile (rough numbers). so you are talking about .24 secs at most.
06-03-2002, 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by DeRaNgEd
Yeah, hundreds of pounds . The Auto 2K2 Alt is 3,227lbs.
From what I can tell the 97 Maxima is 3,100-3,200 roughly. The 2 main reasons why the Altima weighs more is because it has .5 liters of more motor and a Auto tranny.
For every one hundreds of pounds you reduce or add it's equals about .113 secs in the 1/4 mile (rough numbers). so you are talking about .24 secs at most.
Yeah, hundreds of pounds
. The Auto 2K2 Alt is 3,227lbs.From what I can tell the 97 Maxima is 3,100-3,200 roughly. The 2 main reasons why the Altima weighs more is because it has .5 liters of more motor and a Auto tranny.
For every one hundreds of pounds you reduce or add it's equals about .113 secs in the 1/4 mile (rough numbers). so you are talking about .24 secs at most.
06-03-2002, 04:39 PM
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Hhehehehe I used the Search. Amazing what you can find.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ght=much+weigh
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ght=much+weigh
06-03-2002, 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by DeRaNgEd
Hhehehehe I used the Search. Amazing what you can find.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ght=much+weigh
Hhehehehe I used the Search. Amazing what you can find.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ght=much+weigh
06-03-2002, 07:46 PM
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http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_rat...ary_midmod.htm
It says 3,104LBS but then you click on this
http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_rat...html/97024.htm
This says 3,012LBS I guess that was the Infinit's weight.
This one says 3,001LBS
http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/u...fm/id/2214.htm
So I bow to you, I should of done more research then just limiting my search to this site. The 2K2 Altima is barely a couple hundred pounds heavier.
I do my homework when it comes to cars. Atleast I try to. I ususally give credit when it's due. You're right, you win, here's a cookie.
LOL!
06-04-2002, 12:14 AM
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well to all of you haters out there clowning on the max and how i would get killed, i raced him and he jumped me off the line but from there on i was at his side door the whole time im not sure what i am running time wise but i think i am about a 15.4 and racing him i would say he isnt anything faster than a 15.2. everyone on here says he would kill me unless he messed up? there isnt a whole lot of ways to mess up driving an auto. i dont know i was actually underestimating my car but i guess i should be pretty happy
06-04-2002, 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by SeBlackMax97
well to all of you haters out there clowning on the max and how i would get killed, i raced him and he jumped me off the line but from there on i was at his side door the whole time im not sure what i am running time wise but i think i am about a 15.4 and racing him i would say he isnt anything faster than a 15.2. everyone on here says he would kill me unless he messed up? there isnt a whole lot of ways to mess up driving an auto. i dont know i was actually underestimating my car but i guess i should be pretty happy
well to all of you haters out there clowning on the max and how i would get killed, i raced him and he jumped me off the line but from there on i was at his side door the whole time im not sure what i am running time wise but i think i am about a 15.4 and racing him i would say he isnt anything faster than a 15.2. everyone on here says he would kill me unless he messed up? there isnt a whole lot of ways to mess up driving an auto. i dont know i was actually underestimating my car but i guess i should be pretty happy
06-04-2002, 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by SeBlackMax97
well to all of you haters out there clowning on the max and how i would get killed, i raced him and he jumped me off the line but from there on i was at his side door the whole time im not sure what i am running time wise but i think i am about a 15.4 and racing him i would say he isnt anything faster than a 15.2. everyone on here says he would kill me unless he messed up? there isnt a whole lot of ways to mess up driving an auto. i dont know i was actually underestimating my car but i guess i should be pretty happy
well to all of you haters out there clowning on the max and how i would get killed, i raced him and he jumped me off the line but from there on i was at his side door the whole time im not sure what i am running time wise but i think i am about a 15.4 and racing him i would say he isnt anything faster than a 15.2. everyone on here says he would kill me unless he messed up? there isnt a whole lot of ways to mess up driving an auto. i dont know i was actually underestimating my car but i guess i should be pretty happy
Definatally with those bolt-ons you would keep up with the Alti, just as I said.
Don't worry about all these other "Minima" owners...they just don't know what the original VQ is capible of.
Oh, and irregula, "teh" bottom line is that he DID race and he DID keep almost even.
06-04-2002, 03:15 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by blizz20oma
[B]Aww, why didn't he buy a manual 3.5SE? That's the only way to fly with the new Altimas in my book
No, no. The proper way is to go out and buy a new Q45 and show em what's what. My parents are in the process of trading in their J30t on a new car, and this is the first one they tried out. If it were up to just my Dad they would've taken it home that day. Said he's never driven anything like it before.
Also, yes I am aware of the calibre(class) of car I am talking about in comparison. Just thought I'd share my opinion . (for the love of God I hope they get it so I can drive it) :]
[B]Aww, why didn't he buy a manual 3.5SE? That's the only way to fly with the new Altimas in my book
No, no. The proper way is to go out and buy a new Q45 and show em what's what. My parents are in the process of trading in their J30t on a new car, and this is the first one they tried out. If it were up to just my Dad they would've taken it home that day. Said he's never driven anything like it before.
Also, yes I am aware of the calibre(class) of car I am talking about in comparison. Just thought I'd share my opinion . (for the love of God I hope they get it so I can drive it) :]
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