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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 10:58 AM
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I decided to go on NOS.

Hey guys, after reading for weeks everything I can on NOS, I decided to go for it, a 100-125 shots look like my target, I still have to figure which system I will buy and make a list of all the accessories require to make the installation as safe as possible. I also have to plan the downtime for the tranny to go at level 10, I want to have it solidely rebuilt before NOS goes in. I though of VB Recal, but my little finger tell me that it wont be sufficient. I want a better tranny and I'm ready to break my bank for this. Any idea, suggestions are welcome a complete write up on NOS would be awesome too. Your comments are welcome.

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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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By NOS do you mean nitros or N O S the actual company by Holley Products. Would you get a wet kit or a dry kit. People that call nitros NOS only get it because of the movie. I would not recomend it. My buddy had a 100 shot and blew his motor. Save your money and get a supercharger. My opinion is that bottles are for babies. I could be wrong. Your car, You money, Your style. Stay quick. Good luck. And as a Maxima owner, HAVE FUN.
Old Jul 26, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by 20th maxstyle
By NOS do you mean nitros or N O S the actual company by Holley Products. Would you get a wet kit or a dry kit. People that call nitros NOS only get it because of the movie. I would not recomend it. My buddy had a 100 shot and blew his motor. Save your money and get a supercharger. My opinion is that bottles are for babies. I could be wrong. Your car, You money, Your style. Stay quick. Good luck. And as a Maxima owner, HAVE FUN.
Hey I should have say Nitrous, cuz NOS for many people is like a nickname, but you are right it trademark. The S/C will probaly cost me candian citizen around 10000$cdn to do, this is one third of the car price. That would make a nice deposit on a 2 nd car.

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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 02:27 PM
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I had NOS in my 91 SE-R and it was great. BUT, I would not go that route again. It's great for racing on the track, but for street racing, it kinda sucks. You know, if you're at a stop light and some guy rev's you, you gotta say "wait a minute while I open my bottle". yeah right!!! You're gonna look stupid! Sure you could get the remote bottle opener but ahhh, it's just too much hassle. Plus, I had to purge the system every time. TOO MUCH HASSLE!!

I took ALOT of safety precautions and didn't do any damage to my motor, but I would still go for a S/C or turbo. NO question about it!!

Any way you go, good luck and be safe!
Old Jul 26, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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Re: I decided to go on NOS.

Originally posted by doublea
Hey guys, after reading for weeks everything I can on NOS, I decided to go for it, a 100-125 shots look like my target, Your comments are welcome.

P.S:

Cheers

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Be careful last time I was on that much N2O I woke up with 4 wisdom teeth missing. j/k... good luck
Old Jul 26, 2002 | 05:16 PM
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Nothing is done yet, and this is why I wanted to have members opinion, I think your experiences is more valuable to me and I still welcome anyone to share other experiences and real life situations. I will definitely search a little more before doing something I may regret. It's like I know how it is going to end, I start dreaming again about S/C.

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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 05:38 PM
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If you want good, reliable information on Nitrous, I suggest you look elsewhere other than this forum. I have ran Nitrous on my Mustang for about 2 years with no side effects, and as for a blower or turbo, it is all the same principal, more oxygen makes more power. Nitrous is nothing more than a chemical supercharger. Just don't be stupid, read all the directions, and have fun. Nothing makes as much power dollar per dollar than a little squeeze. And NOTHING makes the torque of Nitrous. Have fun...
Old Jul 26, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by 20th maxstyle
By NOS do you mean nitros or N O S the actual company by Holley Products. Would you get a wet kit or a dry kit. People that call nitros NOS only get it because of the movie. I would not recomend it. My buddy had a 100 shot and blew his motor. Save your money and get a supercharger. My opinion is that bottles are for babies. I could be wrong. Your car, You money, Your style. Stay quick. Good luck. And as a Maxima owner, HAVE FUN.
We've been using the term "nos" for years, WAY before the "gay and the curious" came out. Their brand "nos" has become the generic name for N20.
Old Jul 26, 2002 | 06:42 PM
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NOS is "safe" when installed and used properly. I've seen many people blow motors and literally "blow up" motors but there are reasons. When you have a internally stock Civic EX motor and you're running a direct port setup trying to squeeze 13's or 12's, you're asking for it. That is an econo-box motor and you're trying to run an extra 75-100HP through it. It's simply not going to hold. If you use your NOS in line with what your engine can handle, then you'll be okay. Just make sure your shop know what they are doing.
Old Jul 26, 2002 | 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by 20th maxstyle
By NOS do you mean nitros or N O S the actual company by Holley Products. Would you get a wet kit or a dry kit. People that call nitros NOS only get it because of the movie. I would not recomend it. My buddy had a 100 shot and blew his motor. Save your money and get a supercharger. My opinion is that bottles are for babies. I could be wrong. Your car, You money, Your style. Stay quick. Good luck. And as a Maxima owner, HAVE FUN.
Well then call me a big baby.
Old Jul 26, 2002 | 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by SR20DEN


Well then call me a big baby.
Did you cold gap your plugs when you installed your kit?
Old Jul 26, 2002 | 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by cobymoby


Did you cold gap your plugs when you installed your kit?
Nope
Old Jul 26, 2002 | 09:54 PM
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And NOTHING makes the torque of Nitrous. Have fun...
Roots type blowers come close... if only we could fit em...
Old Jul 26, 2002 | 09:57 PM
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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by 20th maxstyle
By NOS do you mean nitros or N O S the actual company by Holley Products. Would you get a wet kit or a dry kit. People that call nitros NOS only get it because of the movie. I would not recomend it. My buddy had a 100 shot and blew his motor. Save your money and get a supercharger. My opinion is that bottles are for babies. I could be wrong. Your car, You money, Your style. Stay quick. Good luck. And as a Maxima owner, HAVE FUN.
That was a 100 dry shot and if i remember correctly, the engine had a good amount of miles on it. The injectors went south and thats why his engine blew, not just because of 100shot. Theres plenty of people running 100shot on newer motors without having any problems, but there are a share of people running with problems. I currently run a 60shot, and my reccomendation is, dont do it on a stock auto, the added power just begins to rip it to shreds over time. Some people with transmission coolers and Valvebody upgrade or some mod to increase transmission line pressure for quicker shifts, have reported no problems with their transmissions. If you decide to seriously go for a 100shot or more, and if that was me making that decision, i would go with a wet kit, just for the added safety of not overworking your stock injectors, or if u really feel up to it, go for a Direct Port setup. Then u wont have to worry about uneven nitrous in the cylinders, but thats lots of $$$.
Old Jul 27, 2002 | 01:39 AM
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Direct port kits are not that much more expensive, less than $80 more. It's the labor that is more expensive......
Old Jul 27, 2002 | 09:42 AM
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Re: I decided to go on NOS.

Originally posted by doublea
Hey guys, after reading for weeks everything I can on NOS, I decided to go for it, a 100-125 shots look like my target, I still have to figure which system I will buy and make a list of all the accessories require to make the installation as safe as possible. I also have to plan the downtime for the tranny to go at level 10, I want to have it solidely rebuilt before NOS goes in. I though of VB Recal, but my little finger tell me that it wont be sufficient. I want a better tranny and I'm ready to break my bank for this. Any idea, suggestions are welcome a complete write up on NOS would be awesome too. Your comments are welcome.

P.S:

Cheers

AA
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Old Jul 29, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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Re: I decided to go on NOS.

Originally posted by doublea
Your comments are welcome.

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I heard just as many horrer stories on the supercharger kits, and they don't even make a direct fit for the autos-it's a custom intake job. So, I did the Zex kit (65 shot) on my auto, with the remote opener for convenience; I love it! I shoot on average once every day, and my supply lasts for about 6 weeks.

I did some dyno tuning to make sure I was running a safe A/F ratio, and I got colder plugs gapped down to be sure I don't detonate. I added a tranny cooler and will have my VB done, before I move to the 125 shot.

From what I've read, if you do it safely, and take all the necessary precautions, including occcasional dyno tunes/check-ups, and have gauges to monitor your system, you can enjoy a long life of shooting, with no major problems.
Old Jul 29, 2002 | 10:34 AM
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Mine cost me about 55% as much and I'm in Toronto. This includes what I paid for misc odds and ends to get everything going, and the three gauges I mounted

Originally posted by doublea


Hey I should have say Nitrous, cuz NOS for many people is like a nickname, but you are right it trademark. The S/C will probaly cost me candian citizen around 10000$cdn to do, this is one third of the car price. That would make a nice deposit on a 2 nd car.

Cheers

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Re: Re: I decided to go on NOS.

Bah! No fitment issues here; everything is fine. Another supercharger, on another automagic 5th gen silvermist max!

Personally, I think you have to buy a silvermist 5th gen auto if you want to get one with a good tranny that won't blow I think I'm number three? Y2KevSE is the other - and the "other guy" defected his supercharged max to a 330Ci

<wink>

Originally posted by Stikya


I heard just as many horrer stories on the supercharger kits, and they don't even make a direct fit for the autos-it's a custom intake job. So, I did the Zex kit (65 shot) on my auto, with the remote opener for convenience; I love it! I shoot on average once every day, and my supply lasts for about 6 weeks.

I did some dyno tuning to make sure I was running a safe A/F ratio, and I got colder plugs gapped down to be sure I don't detonate. I added a tranny cooler and will have my VB done, before I move to the 125 shot.

From what I've read, if you do it safely, and take all the necessary precautions, including occcasional dyno tunes/check-ups, and have gauges to monitor your system, you can enjoy a long life of shooting, with no major problems.
Old Jul 29, 2002 | 11:10 AM
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Re: Re: Re: I decided to go on NOS.

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Bah! No fitment issues here; everything is fine. Another supercharger, on another automagic 5th gen silvermist max!

Personally, I think you have to buy a silvermist 5th gen auto if you want to get one with a good tranny that won't blow I think I'm number three? Y2KevSE is the other - and the "other guy" defected his supercharged max to a 330Ci

<wink>

boost....
Old Jul 29, 2002 | 06:57 PM
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I just found that turbo97se, is investigating for a 5 th gen turbo kit, I know he did it for the 4th gen, the results are pretty impressive, have a look at those number:
https://maxima.org/forums/showthread...hreadid=139804

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Old Jul 29, 2002 | 08:03 PM
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Re: Re: Re: I decided to go on NOS.

Originally posted by Jer
Bah! No fitment issues here; everything is fine. Another supercharger, on another automagic 5th gen silvermist max!

Personally, I think you have to buy a silvermist 5th gen auto if you want to get one with a good tranny that won't blow I think I'm number three? Y2KevSE is the other - and the "other guy" defected his supercharged max to a 330Ci

<wink>

max'n out has a Sterling Mist also.
Old Jul 29, 2002 | 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by doublea
I just found that turbo97se, is investigating for a 5 th gen turbo kit, I know he did it for the 4th gen, the results are pretty impressive, have a look at those number:
https://maxima.org/forums/showthread...hreadid=139804

Cheers

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Just curious, how much would you pay for a 5th gen SC with GReddy BOV, 2 aluminum tensioner and idler pulleys, exhaust wrapped charged piping, custom CAI, and 3:1/4:1/6:1/8:1/10:1/12:1 Vortech FMU discs?
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Old Jul 30, 2002 | 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Just curious, how much would you pay for a 5th gen SC with GReddy BOV, 2 aluminum tensioner and idler pulleys, exhaust wrapped charged piping, custom CAI, and 3:1/4:1/6:1/8:1/10:1/12:1 Vortech FMU discs?
That is a hell of a good questions, but honestly I dont tend to buy used material but when a good deal is available I can always revise my position if it worth.

S/C brand new is 3783$ ( Avalon )

S/C no warranty, but in working condition ( 1 year usage ) 2000$

S/C no warranty, but in working condition ( 2 years usage ) 1500$

For the rest of your parts I guess I would have to compare with brand new item prices, then calculate the devaluation depending on how old it is. That would roughly be my way to figure it out but. I'm shure it's prolly not a very good deal for you unless you are ready to take a plunge and I would never insult you with a very low offer. I would perhaps feel more confortable if you give me an idea of what would be acceptable for you. I very rarely buy used stuff unless I have a good deal.

PM me if you want.

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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Just curious, how much would you pay for a 5th gen SC with GReddy BOV, 2 aluminum tensioner and idler pulleys, exhaust wrapped charged piping, custom CAI, and 3:1/4:1/6:1/8:1/10:1/12:1 Vortech FMU discs?
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Too easy I'll give ya $3000 - I'll tell my dad his car is broken and I need to service it for 2 days...

...then I'll rip everything aside in his 2000 Silvermist GXE and will install a blower on his car too

I wonder if he'd notice - when I told him I installed a supercharger his first comment was "I thought that weird sound was your air conditioning that screwed up" bahahahahaa

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Just curious, how much would you pay for a 5th gen SC with GReddy BOV, 2 aluminum tensioner and idler pulleys, exhaust wrapped charged piping, custom CAI, and 3:1/4:1/6:1/8:1/10:1/12:1 Vortech FMU discs?
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Originally posted by doublea


That is a hell of a good questions, but honestly I dont tend to buy used material but when a good deal is available I can always revise my position if it worth.

S/C brand new is 3783$ ( Avalon )

S/C no warranty, but in working condition ( 1 year usage ) 2000$

S/C no warranty, but in working condition ( 2 years usage ) 1500$

For the rest of your parts I guess I would have to compare with brand new item prices, then calculate the devaluation depending on how old it is. That would roughly be my way to figure it out but. I'm shure it's prolly not a very good deal for you unless you are ready to take a plunge and I would never insult you with a very low offer. I would perhaps feel more confortable if you give me an idea of what would be acceptable for you. I very rarely buy used stuff unless I have a good deal.

PM me if you want.

Cheers

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I was just curious. 4th gen V1 superchargers go for anywhere between 2000-2500, and those are a few years old.


Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE


?

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Originally posted by Jer
Too easy :-) I'll give ya $3000 - I'll tell my dad his car is broken and I need to service it for 2 days...

...then I'll rip everything aside in his 2000 Silvermist GXE and will install a blower on his car too :-)

I wonder if he'd notice - when I told him I installed a supercharger his first comment was "I thought that weird sound was your air conditioning that screwed up" bahahahahaa :-D

Two SC'ed 5th gens in the family would be sweet!
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i have been stuck with the decision of Nitrous or SC???

is the SC install really that bad on a Auto?? or just a little more involved.
Old Jul 31, 2002 | 05:43 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Y2KevSE
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I was just curious. 4th gen V1 superchargers go for anywhere between 2000-2500, and those are a few years old.


Oh I see, the product keep it's value, good for the owner, with so little difference I definitely go for brand new, think about it paying 2500$ for v1 one two years abuse and no warranty, for 1300$ more you got brand freaking new. It is like asking someone if he'd buy a used computer, everyone will do but at half the price, unless it's like brand new but on that case you cant abuse a computer, well maybe if you bring it in the pool.

P.S: If you ever sell your kit let me know what kind of price you'd be asking, who know what can happend.

Cheers


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