does it come with a mounting plate like berk/stillen/JWT? or it uses mounting bracket like frankencar?

I checked many pictures, but couldnt tell what method does ingen use.

and one more question...how many bracket/mounting plates does ingen use? seems like u need more than 2 to hold this happy pipe.

thx in adv.

 

They weld a bracket onto the second tube of the intake that attaches to a bolt that you replace with one they send. Works quite nicely and fits great. Theres only one on the whole thing, but I'm sure its enough. It feels quite solid to me.

 

Check out page 3 of my homepage. The whole thing is VERY secure.
BTW...it's Injen, not Ingen.

Tony

 

Yeah, INGEN is the company that owned Jurassic Park in the movie.



You should be able to see it directly in the middle of the above shot. There is a larger photo on my homepage. Very sturdy, the bracket is significantly more solid than what is provided by either Frankencar or Berk and it bolted, during installation, directly onto the engine.

 

alright...thanks guys...no wonder I only came up with few threads from search.

so there is nothing to hold the MAF tube? I am thinking about to switch to Injen but affraid that MAF sensor might fail due to excessive vibration. Is it possible to re-use and bend the mounting plate from berk intake?


and MichaelAE: so it bolted onto engine and does engine vibration affect the intake? esp when u accelerate or shift gear.


thx all.

 

it's fine..i love mine..go get it!....i have had no problems so far

 

My thoughts are that engine vibration travels to the throttle body equally as to the valve assembly (the Injen is bolted to the side of the valve assembly) since they are all one solid unit essentially. So, the entire unit is going to vibrate and move with engine movement during shifting, stopping, etc. However, this is the case with any of the popular intakes. You could always use a rubber grommet on the bolt for the mid-piping bracket, but you still have vibration from the throttle body, which is going to travel to the MAF. Your goal, in my opinion, would be to soften the vibration from the throttle-body and the valve-assembly.

The stock airbox had that accordian-like resonator box which, I imagined, reduced a lot of the vibration from the throttle-body that you are concerned about.

I don't think it would be a good idea to try to attach the tubing of any intake to both the engine/throttle-body and the engine bay frame itself, unless that attachment method was flexible. If you think about the fact that the engine moves around a lot during acceleration, shifting, and braking separately from the frame, I think you risk cracking something on the intake if you attempt to link them together. The Berk bracket is very flexible and would, itself, move around during engine shifts preventing any bolts from breaking and the stock airbox has that accordian thingy. I personally do not like the little bracket Frankencar sends out specifically because you are tying the engine to the frame of the car without flexibility and I don't like that. There is a reason you have engine mounts with rubber or urethane bushings to separate the engine from the car's frame...so the engine can move independantly of the frame.

 

now I know that those strechable stock rubber tubes, that hold the MAF to the resonator, reduce vibration from the engine and the throttle during driving. When we switch to something that comes with the midpipe, this tube was removed and therefore, it puts more pressure onto the MAF.

so far I have installed a berk intake and I believe adding an injen will not be that difficult b/c the pain-in-the-**** airbox is already gone. But I have never taken off anything beyond the MAF (my MAF was attached when I installed Berk) Is it possible to re-use the strechable rubber piece onto the injen tube near the throttle?

thx all for the help....

 

You wouldn't be able to re-use that rubber ring/tube from the stock airbox, if we're thinking of the same thing. Well, it is possible...but you'd have to do some work since you wouldn't actually want the resonator itself and adding any length to the Injen tubing would dislocate the support bracket and filter in the end. However, keep in mind that the Injen tubing has silicon couplers and that there will be some dampening ability there.

 

Has anyone installed the AEM bypass valve with this intake? Also, does anyone know the diameter of the piping?

 

I think we are talking about different parts....I am thinking about replacing injen silicon couplers with the stock strechable rubber tubes that connet the MAF to the throttle, not the rubber spacers.

 

This is a lil off topic, but what is the blue hoose u have going from ure engine, and why do u have it?

 

If you're talking about the largest blue hose coming directly out of the Injen tubing, that's one of the breather lines on the Injen. Since I couldn't replace it with blue silicon (nobody sells a replacement hose that large), I wrapped it with blue wire loom to max my engine bay blue theme. Check out my website to see the total effect.

 

The accordian like thingy? I think we're on the same page, aren't we? When the stock airbox is in, the thing between the throttle body and the air resonator box, right? The MAF adaptor is on the other side of the air resonator box and then the filter box is after the MAF.

I just went and looked in my tool chest where that thing is sitting. I didn't realize the accordian thingy could be separate from the air resonator box...I thought it was part of it. I think it is possible, but I don't know if the sizes match up of tube diameters. If so, I think it is feasible to use that accordian thingy instead of the silicon hose to attach the upper tube of the Injen CAI to the throttle-body. I'm not sure you will actually accomplish anything...you're still going to have the lower tube of the CAI bolted to the valve assembly...but it is an interesting idea. Maybe I'll play around with the idea this weekend.

A thought...it will cause some air turbulence just before the air hits the throttle-body...not sure how that will affect the intake performance.

 

yes! that's it! I am thinking about to use that insteand of injen silicon couplers. I think the idea of stock air box is to use the accordian thingy to reduce vibration from the throttle and bolt the air box with several bolts along with rubber spacer to reduce vibration from the frame or the road. It's going to make the injen look ugly...but I am willing to sacrifice the look and slight performance for stability.



I wouldnt bother to separate it from the stock resonator....I think those can be purchased.

Now...I am fighting myself....should I get it? will my gf be p1ssed???

 

She will be fine!!! Get the Injen, mine will be here next Wed

 

when did you order yours? where from?

 

I think adventon.com has the best price. About 236 shipped is what I paid.

 

u get urs installed yet?? i may be able to help u out this weekend....

Adam

 

Yea I forgot to take out the resonator (where the filter for the Injen sat) when I put my frankencar in originally and I looked at yours last friday to figure it out, so in a way you basically did help. Thanks!

 

just took a look of ur page...seems like u have the clearest picture to the bracket. thx again

http://images.cardomain.com/installs...50_50_full.jpg

 

ha ha, ya taking out the resonator is like half the install time... the other half was finding the damn bolt on the water intake the instructions and very "detailed" picture talk about..


Adam

 

Yea no kidding. I didnt even wast my time on those pics, they were impossible to see. I found that bolt by looking for hoses that I could see that were in the same area as the pic...Took me like 10 minutes but I found it I put a ram air-type setup to my injen, and I think it helped, course I could be dreamin. I think im goin back to the track on friday to see if it helped at all.

 

from that pic it seems as if it is angled away from the fan, is this the case? Also, how far from the bottom of the car is the filter positioned?

 

Ordered yesterday from George at www.adventon.com

Will be here on Wed of next week

 

The filter sits in the right front of the car (if looking at it) away from the fans. The filter that comes with the intake sits a few inches from the plastic guard on bottom. I put a different filter on and it sits lower though.