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Old Sep 1, 2002 | 11:26 PM
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Tokico Blues w/Stock Springs--Much Better.

Couldn't take the float and bounce on my 2k3 SE anymore. So with 1000 miles on it, I purchased and installed a set of Tokico Blues. Ride is still great but no more bounce and float.
For those that do not race but just drive sprited and don't want to lower the car and/or put in aftermarket spings but do want to get rid of the float and rebound bounce in the stock SE suspension, I would recommend this without hesitation.
Install was pretty easy. Worst part was compressing the front spring enough to get the top hat and nut back on; what a pain. Sure glad I had an impact wrench for the procedure. Not absolutely necessary but it will make the install easier and quicker(i.e., turing down the spring compressors and getting that piston nut back on).
Old Sep 2, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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Re: Tokico Blues w/Stock Springs--Much Better.

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Couldn't take the float and bounce on my 2k3 SE anymore. So with 1000 miles on it, I purchased and installed a set of Tokico Blues. Ride is still great but no more bounce and float.
For those that do not race but just drive sprited and don't want to lower the car and/or put in aftermarket spings but do want to get rid of the float and rebound bounce in the stock SE suspension, I would recommend this without hesitation.
Install was pretty easy. Worst part was compressing the front spring enough to get the top hat and nut back on; what a pain. Sure glad I had an impact wrench for the procedure. Not absolutely necessary but it will make the install easier and quicker(i.e., turing down the spring compressors and getting that piston nut back on).
are you gonna sell or trade those stock se rims? i hardly see people with 2k3's and i want these rims badly..

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=148442
checkout this thread..
Old Sep 2, 2002 | 11:56 AM
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Re: Re: Tokico Blues w/Stock Springs--Much Better.

I don't know, but I had Tokicos blues on my 95 Maxima and hated them. After some miles the bounce will come back and I even thought that it was even worse than with stock shocks, which are made by Tokico as well.

I have stock shocks with H&Rs on my 2002 Max and I love it.
Old Sep 2, 2002 | 01:56 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dany
I don't know, but I had Tokicos blues on my 95 Maxima and hated them. After some miles the bounce will come back and I even thought that it was even worse than with stock shocks, which are made by Tokico as well.

I have stock shocks with H&Rs on my 2002 Max and I love it.
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don't know where you learned that from, but sooner or later your stock shocks will not handle the compression on the H & R springs and you car will bounce like a ball. they might not die, but you will find out soon...the stock shocks are not the same as the aftermarket tokicos. maybe for the 4th gens, but not the 5th gens..i suggest you do some more research...
Old Sep 2, 2002 | 03:42 PM
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Time will tell I guess. But for now, I am a happy camper and the Tokicos are warrantied for as long as I own the car. BTW, I plan on keeping the stock rims regarding the previous posting.
Old Sep 2, 2002 | 03:51 PM
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Time will tell I guess. But for now, I am a happy camper and the Tokicos are warrantied for as long as I own the car. BTW, I plan on keeping the stock rims regarding the previous posting.
your stock shocks are not tokicos...thanks tho. i'm still looking for these rims. nismo might sell his..
Old Sep 2, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Deven2kStickMax
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your stock shocks are not tokicos...thanks tho. i'm still looking for these rims. nismo might sell his..

Stock shocks are made by Tokicos, at least they were on my 95 Maxima SE. It is written right on the shock.

And as for bounce, I was scared to drive my car with Tokicos.

Me and Shing a long time member here had a lot of discussions about Tokicos and how they suck.
If you like them, that's great. I am gona pass. Konis shocks that is another story, but I am very happy with the car right now. H&Rs on stocks SE shocks rule.
Old Sep 2, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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your stock shocks are not tokicos...thanks tho. i'm still looking for these rims. nismo might sell his..

Stock shocks are made by Tokicos, at least they were on my 95 Maxima SE. It is written right on the shock.

And as for bounce, I was scared to drive my car with Tokicos.

Me and Shing a long time member here had a lot of discussions about Tokicos and how they suck.
If you like them, that's great. I am gona pass. Konis shocks that is another story, but I am very happy with the car right now. H&Rs on stocks SE shocks rule.
NO only on the 4th GENS not 5th GENS...it's a lower quality than the aftermarket tokicos... 5th GEN GUYS CAN YOU PUT SOME INPUT HERE??? it was written on your 4th Gen shocks which may be true, but TELL ME WHAT IS SAYS ON THE ONE YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW????


ALSO EXPLAIN TO ME WHY STOCK SHOCKS AND H & R rules?

this thread will get bigger soon as soon at the other 5th Gen guys read this suspension combo......
Old Sep 2, 2002 | 08:24 PM
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According to the Nissan parts sheet I have for Nissan struts and shocks, there are 2 vendors for the 5th gen max...both tokico and something like universa. Specifically, the stock struts I took off my 2k3 SE were not Tokicos...they were the other vendor with the Universa and Nissan stamped on it.
The 5th Gen max aftermarket Tokicos are different part numbers than the 4th Gen aftermarket Tokicos and valved differently. Also, the aftermarket Tokico is a better shock/strut than the stock OEM Nissan Tokico....at least that is what a Tokico representative told me.
Old Sep 2, 2002 | 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by nick778
According to the Nissan parts sheet I have for Nissan struts and shocks, there are 2 vendors for the 5th gen max...both tokico and something like universa. Specifically, the stock struts I took off my 2k3 SE were not Tokicos...they were the other vendor with the Universa and Nissan stamped on it.
The 5th Gen max aftermarket Tokicos are different part numbers than the 4th Gen aftermarket Tokicos and valved differently. Also, the aftermarket Tokico is a better shock/strut than the stock OEM Nissan Tokico....at least that is what a Tokico representative told me.


THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT LOUD. I WAS RIGHT...
Old Sep 2, 2002 | 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by Deven2kStickMax




THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT LOUD. I WAS RIGHT...
The name written on mine are made by a company starts with M. I have to check the correct name, but it says nissan on it too. i know they are not tokicos either.
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 06:56 AM
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I will check what is written on them, I just thought it will be the same brand as the ones I had on my 1995 Maxima.

I speak from experience I had with Tokicos. I hated Tokicos on my 1995 Maxima. The car was all over the place with them so I am not planning to spend money on the same shocks that I didn't like before.
Also, after some miles on the car, Tokicos become worse and worse.

As for now with H&Rs and stock shocks, I love the way the car looks and rides.
I don't think Tokicos are worth the investment.
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 07:01 AM
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Re: Tokico Blues w/Stock Springs--Much Better.

Originally posted by nick778
Couldn't take the float and bounce on my 2k3 SE anymore. So with 1000 miles on it, I purchased and installed a set of Tokico Blues. Ride is still great but no more bounce and float.
For those that do not race but just drive sprited and don't want to lower the car and/or put in aftermarket spings but do want to get rid of the float and rebound bounce in the stock SE suspension, I would recommend this without hesitation.
Install was pretty easy. Worst part was compressing the front spring enough to get the top hat and nut back on; what a pain. Sure glad I had an impact wrench for the procedure. Not absolutely necessary but it will make the install easier and quicker(i.e., turing down the spring compressors and getting that piston nut back on).
is there any drop, with that set up?
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by Deven2kStickMax


your stock shocks are not tokicos...thanks tho. i'm still looking for these rims. nismo might sell his..

My stock 2K1 SE shocks were black Tokico units, obviously not aftermarket ones though.
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 07:27 AM
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Re: Re: Tokico Blues w/Stock Springs--Much Better.

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is there any drop, with that set up?
No Mr.stose95 his car will not drop, because the aftermarket Tokicos is a direct replacement and i think he is using back his OEM springs, just the ride quality would change and just a tiny little more handling . hope that helps.. Deven
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 07:28 AM
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My stock 2K1 SE shocks were black Tokico units, obviously not aftermarket ones though.
mine did not say tokicos and i have an 01SE . Did yours said so? I think i will have to take pics today to clear this up and post them
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by Dany
I will check what is written on them, I just thought it will be the same brand as the ones I had on my 1995 Maxima.

I speak from experience I had with Tokicos. I hated Tokicos on my 1995 Maxima. The car was all over the place with them so I am not planning to spend money on the same shocks that I didn't like before.
Also, after some miles on the car, Tokicos become worse and worse.

As for now with H&Rs and stock shocks, I love the way the car looks and rides.
I don't think Tokicos are worth the investment.

I think you are confusing yourself, you said that your stock OEM shocks was made by Tokicos and now you are saying >>>>>>>>>>
"I don't think Tokicos are worth the investment"

I had Eibachs and Stock shocks once and also lot of people here did it and they can tell you how the car will bounce, but on a straight it will sit a little nicer, but as far as using H & R springs, H & R springs are stiffer than Eibachs so figure what's gonna happen to your OEM shocks soon.....but if you are happy with it then good luck, i only can advise you as an org member..
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 08:21 AM
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if you put an aftermarket springs and leave the stock shocks on...they won't hold, the ride will and performence after a few thousands miles on the stock shocks with the aftermarket springs will get worse and worse. you have to put aftermarket shocks eventually after you put aftermarket springs on(H&R , Eibach, etc)
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 08:25 AM
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As a fyi on replacing the stock OEM struts in my 2k3 SE with Tokico Blues using my stock springs....There is a *big* difference in ride quality and handling(no more multiple bounce and float over every dip and bump with also somewhat better turn-in) with very little sacrifice in ride comfort. One thing to remember is that Nissan went to a softer spring and strut on the 2k2/2k3. The 2k/2k1 was a signficantly stiffer spring and strut than used on the 2k2/2k3 SE model. Perhaps that is why the difference on my 2k3 SE is so significant.
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by 2001SE
if you put an aftermarket springs and leave the stock shocks on...they won't hold, the ride will and performence after a few thousands miles on the stock shocks with the aftermarket springs will get worse and worse. you have to put aftermarket shocks eventually after you put aftermarket springs on(H&R , Eibach, etc)
True statement 2001SE
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by nick778
As a fyi on replacing the stock OEM struts in my 2k3 SE with Tokico Blues using my stock springs....There is a *big* difference in ride quality and handling(no more multiple bounce and float over every dip and bump with also somewhat better turn-in) with very little sacrifice in ride comfort. One thing to remember is that Nissan went to a softer spring and strut on the 2k2/2k3. The 2k/2k1 was a signficantly stiffer spring and strut than used on the 2k2/2k3 SE model. Perhaps that is why the difference on my 2k3 SE is so significant.
I have a complete set of 2000 and 2001 SE OEM SUSPENSION FOR SALE. if anyone of you or 2k3 owners wanna get the stiffer ride fOR THE 2K3 let me know...thanks for telling me this info....didn't know the 2k3 were softer...that's news to me...
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