Lateral G's
Lateral G's
Lateral acceleration: g,0.80
This is a stock 2k SE's road holding ability. Not all that impressive.
I used to have an 83 Chevy Citation X-11 4sp. ( a factory hot rod citation)
It came with 215/60/15's. That car was a blast to drive!!
and it's Lateral G was rated @ .83.
Does any one have any data on what the various suspension mods yield as an increase to stock?
I'm looking for combinations like:
Stock susp, stock rims/tires w/ FSB RSTB and RSB.
All the way to coilovers with 265/30/19's (or whatever, you get the idea).
I think this would be a great addition to the group, because there is a lot of attention paid to 0-60 and 1/4 times, but not all that much detail on actual handling numbers other than, "Wow, it sticks to the road like glue now", or "I can take this turn twice as fast now!"
How much faster in the Slalom can you go with maxspeeds and stock stuts, or eibach/tokico? This is the kind of stuff I am looking for before I make my decision. Would you by a RSTB if you know it didn't make ANY diff at all in handling?
There is one site that goes in to some detail, but not for Maxima's tirerack.com, I think.
Is anyone else interested in this? Hello?
This is a stock 2k SE's road holding ability. Not all that impressive.
I used to have an 83 Chevy Citation X-11 4sp. ( a factory hot rod citation)
It came with 215/60/15's. That car was a blast to drive!!and it's Lateral G was rated @ .83.
Does any one have any data on what the various suspension mods yield as an increase to stock?
I'm looking for combinations like:
Stock susp, stock rims/tires w/ FSB RSTB and RSB.
All the way to coilovers with 265/30/19's (or whatever, you get the idea).
I think this would be a great addition to the group, because there is a lot of attention paid to 0-60 and 1/4 times, but not all that much detail on actual handling numbers other than, "Wow, it sticks to the road like glue now", or "I can take this turn twice as fast now!"
How much faster in the Slalom can you go with maxspeeds and stock stuts, or eibach/tokico? This is the kind of stuff I am looking for before I make my decision. Would you by a RSTB if you know it didn't make ANY diff at all in handling?
There is one site that goes in to some detail, but not for Maxima's tirerack.com, I think.
Is anyone else interested in this? Hello?
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unless.....
everyone is rich and know everything about vehicular dynamics testing with such equipment they won't be able to provide you with slalom numbers. Them auto mags have the money and people to do that kind of stuff on closed circuit roads and or tracks with no public traffic around. It'll also depend on if they perform the tests.
Environmental factors such as time of day, temperature, and climate also will affect some of the handly. The surface that makes contact with the tires will also affect the roadholding capabilities. The tire pressure, compound, type, and tread are all factors which sums up the fact that it will depend on what model and brand of tires you are using.
All in all, you would just have to stick to what most people are saying. If it feels like it sticks to the road more than before the mod, then its an improvement in terms of qualification and not quantification.
Did I mention the driver?
Environmental factors such as time of day, temperature, and climate also will affect some of the handly. The surface that makes contact with the tires will also affect the roadholding capabilities. The tire pressure, compound, type, and tread are all factors which sums up the fact that it will depend on what model and brand of tires you are using.
All in all, you would just have to stick to what most people are saying. If it feels like it sticks to the road more than before the mod, then its an improvement in terms of qualification and not quantification.
Did I mention the driver?
Am I crazy?
How is this for an idea. At the next big meet, set up a Road and Track or Car and Driver style course. BIG skid pad and some cones. Take the best driver i.e. most *REAL* track time. Take a gtech and get a bunch of cars with different setups and let the one guy drive the car, so there is at least a constant. I realize that this is never gonna happen, but it was just a thought. and i wish I had a lot of track time 
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Re: Lateral G's
Increasing lateral g's on a stock car is not all that difficult.
1) Increase the tire and wheel width
2) Decrease the tire sidewall height
3) Grippier tires
4) Decrease body roll so that the inside tires take more load off the outside tires (distribute the forces more evenly)
This leads to the following actual Maxima mods:
1+2) 235-45-17 or wider/taller tires on 17"x7.5" or taller/wider wheels
3) Ultra high-performance or better tires (lots to choose from that don't break the bank...Kumho Ecsta 712's for example)
4) Eibach/H&R/Sprint/etc lowering (and stiffer) springs with KYB AGX or Koni struts...or coilovers for the ultimate suspension.
With the above mods a Maxima can easily get 0.90+ g's on the skidpad.
Be aware, however, that pulling more g's does not mean the car handles better...might have more grip but still might not handle all that great. Obtaining a better balanced car that transitions well and is stable is a far more difficult task, and the Maxima has a lot of things going against it to really become a great handler...can become a good handler with some basic mods/car setup, though.
1) Increase the tire and wheel width
2) Decrease the tire sidewall height
3) Grippier tires
4) Decrease body roll so that the inside tires take more load off the outside tires (distribute the forces more evenly)
This leads to the following actual Maxima mods:
1+2) 235-45-17 or wider/taller tires on 17"x7.5" or taller/wider wheels
3) Ultra high-performance or better tires (lots to choose from that don't break the bank...Kumho Ecsta 712's for example)
4) Eibach/H&R/Sprint/etc lowering (and stiffer) springs with KYB AGX or Koni struts...or coilovers for the ultimate suspension.
With the above mods a Maxima can easily get 0.90+ g's on the skidpad.
Be aware, however, that pulling more g's does not mean the car handles better...might have more grip but still might not handle all that great. Obtaining a better balanced car that transitions well and is stable is a far more difficult task, and the Maxima has a lot of things going against it to really become a great handler...can become a good handler with some basic mods/car setup, though.
Originally posted by fhaze_max
Lateral acceleration: g,0.80
This is a stock 2k SE's road holding ability. Not all that impressive.
I used to have an 83 Chevy Citation X-11 4sp. ( a factory hot rod citation) It came with 215/60/15's. That car was a blast to drive!!
and it's Lateral G was rated @ .83.
Does any one have any data on what the various suspension mods yield as an increase to stock?
I'm looking for combinations like:
Stock susp, stock rims/tires w/ FSB RSTB and RSB.
All the way to coilovers with 265/30/19's (or whatever, you get the idea).
I think this would be a great addition to the group, because there is a lot of attention paid to 0-60 and 1/4 times, but not all that much detail on actual handling numbers other than, "Wow, it sticks to the road like glue now", or "I can take this turn twice as fast now!"
How much faster in the Slalom can you go with maxspeeds and stock stuts, or eibach/tokico? This is the kind of stuff I am looking for before I make my decision. Would you by a RSTB if you know it didn't make ANY diff at all in handling?
There is one site that goes in to some detail, but not for Maxima's tirerack.com, I think.
Is anyone else interested in this? Hello?
Lateral acceleration: g,0.80
This is a stock 2k SE's road holding ability. Not all that impressive.
I used to have an 83 Chevy Citation X-11 4sp. ( a factory hot rod citation)
It came with 215/60/15's. That car was a blast to drive!!and it's Lateral G was rated @ .83.
Does any one have any data on what the various suspension mods yield as an increase to stock?
I'm looking for combinations like:
Stock susp, stock rims/tires w/ FSB RSTB and RSB.
All the way to coilovers with 265/30/19's (or whatever, you get the idea).
I think this would be a great addition to the group, because there is a lot of attention paid to 0-60 and 1/4 times, but not all that much detail on actual handling numbers other than, "Wow, it sticks to the road like glue now", or "I can take this turn twice as fast now!"
How much faster in the Slalom can you go with maxspeeds and stock stuts, or eibach/tokico? This is the kind of stuff I am looking for before I make my decision. Would you by a RSTB if you know it didn't make ANY diff at all in handling?
There is one site that goes in to some detail, but not for Maxima's tirerack.com, I think.
Is anyone else interested in this? Hello?
I've gotten over 1 G with my setup (I don't remember what the exact number the RSM stated).
- Ground control coilovers. 500 lbs 6" springs in front, 375 lbs 6" springs in back
- Koni struts
- Warpspeed subframe connectors
- Stillen FSTB
- Stillen RSB
- Stillen RSTB
- 245/45/18 Bridgestone RE730
- Stillen camber plates
- Ground control coilovers. 500 lbs 6" springs in front, 375 lbs 6" springs in back
- Koni struts
- Warpspeed subframe connectors
- Stillen FSTB
- Stillen RSB
- Stillen RSTB
- 245/45/18 Bridgestone RE730
- Stillen camber plates
Plenty 'o Grip 
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