In motor trend the list the 0-60 of the Z to be 5.49 and the 1/4 mile at 13.95 @ 102.25 mph.

how can a car that weighs as much as ours be that much faster with only 25 extra horses??? The trap speed is what really gets me...professional driver or not, that's pretty high.

Time to trade in for a g35 coupe I guess.

I guess the other point would be: can't someone make some decent mods to get my HP up there???? It is the same engine after all!!! NISMO WHERE ARE YOU??

 

The 350Z weighs less than a Maxima. I suspect is has different gearing as well. Add the difference in hp, and it makes perfect sense.

 

dont jump in just yet.. head over to fresh alloy and check out the G35S/C forums. There are some problems. Most things are getting fixed, but a few remain unresolved. Also, you'll notice some subtle diffs between a 2003 and a 2003.5 sedan. huh? a .5 already?

Same thing with the the coupe. *most* everything is tight tho.. so even as a first year, they arent as bad as say VW.

You really should go look at them. I went and looked at the one that was offered to me. It was attractive, but it didnt blow me away. I dont regret not getting it.

In fact, some other guys were there looking at it too.. as I was walking back to my car some of them mistook my 2k for a 2k2 (wonder why and they were gushing over the max. I found it odd to get compliments on my car sitting next to a G35C and a Q45, but hey I'll take it.

 

according to this mag, the curb weight is 3247lbs...
I believe the max is almost identical...so I question that!

 

According to edmunds.com, the base model 350Z weighs 3188lbs, and goes up from there depending trim level and options. A Maxima SE with no options weighs 3239, and gets porkier as you add options. So there is a difference in weight between the two, although slight.

As I said before, I think gearing plus the extra hp and torque make up for the difference in acceleration.

 

Plus it's RWD which makes better use of the power applied to the ground from a stop.

 

ever heard of something called rear wheel drive! that has alot to do with it!

will

 

i heard that it's the same engine with slightly different cams or something of the internal sort

 

I think the basics have been covered well thus far. Gearing, aerodynamics, and RWD are important. Lower 60' equals better ET

 

r u forgetting it's a RWD? and wat bout the torque it has over the max?

 

Torque-wise it's not so big a difference.

 

And 50lbs should not be a factor either. I think nissan has overrated the HP on our engines, that's for sure....cause just having RWD and 30 HP should not take .7 secs of the e.t. and add 8 mph.

So, now why can't someone make some darn parts for my maxima that makes my engine crank out HP like the new Z??? Where is nismo...they were supposed to be here by now.

 

you STILL believe in Nissan HP ratings?? Sure, sure...and Santa and the Tooth Fairy as well, huh?

I started disbelieving when the 3 liter Gen5 (with supposedly 222 HP versus the Gen4's 190) was SLOWER than the Gen4. Yeah, the Gen5's have some extra porkiness but if you do the lbs/HP math it still should have been faster.

Then it was the AEs 227 hp versus the non-AE's 222, supposedly because of the exhaust -except they all had the same exhaust which makes you go 'Huh???'

..and now this. You go figure -'cause I gave up loooong ago

 

I think it is fast 0-60, but on the roll I think 6-speed Max can run with it.

Plus I don't really belive the power ratings Z has. Nissan used this 3.5 liter engine in many cars now and putting different numbers everywhere.
Dynos is the only thing that can tell what it actually has.
My friend wants to dyno his new Z and we will see what it puts down.

 

I drove one the other day...No way did it feel that fast...I was very dissapointed

 

the Z that dyno'ed at stillen day a couple weeks back put down like 227 whp... around 238 torque

 

227hp for a 287hp rated engine, that is kinda low I would say.

 

Nissan's HP numbers.....

 

that's what I was saying. Of course I forgot to mention that the Z only had like around 1000 miles on it. But I don't really think that matters.

the numbers the modded spec V put down were even more embarrassing

the modded alitma.. now that was a beast, same numbers as the Z.

 

also grab a dyno from a 350 and one from a max the tq curves would be completly different as we hit out peak around what 4.5 to 5k the 350 is "said" to hit peak a lot quicker some where around 3k i think, some one please correct me if im wrong. also the rwd helps a lil.

 

Plus, I think the Z has a carbon driveshaft so there's not as much power loss from the engine to the wheels.

 

the Z with my old 540 and the new 745i.
The 540 had 282 hp (up in 2001, now 290 with an ECU tweak)and weighed 3850 lbs for a HP/weight ratio of 13.62 lbs/hp

The Z supposedly has 287 hp with a weight of circa 3300 lbs for a HP/weight ratio of 11.49 lbs/hp

Now the 0-60 data
Manual xmision 540: 5.9 secs
Manual xmission Z: 5.7 secs

All else equal, 2.1 less pounds/hp should yield aprox a .4 sec reduction in 0-60 and the Z gets two tenths...even considering its aerodynamic advantage.
Bottom line..287 is bogus -more like 270 best case to me

 

the Z with my old 540.
The 540 had 282 hp (up in 2001, now 290 with an ECU tweak)and weighed 3850 lbs for a HP/weight ratio of 13.62 lbs/hp

The Z supposedly has 287 hp with a weight of circa 3300 lbs for a HP/weight ratio of 11.49 lbs/hp

Now the 0-60 data
Manual xmision 540: 5.9 secs
Manual xmission Z: 5.7 secs

All else equal, 2.1 less pounds/hp should yield aprox a .4 sec reduction in 0-60 and the Z gets two tenths...even considering its aerodynamic advantage.
Bottom line..287 is bogus -more like 270 best case to me

 

I guarantee the biggest difference comes in the shifting b/w the 2 cars.

 

a little more HP, a little less weight, a little different gearing, RWD, LSD, lightweight rims(track model) etc...

It adds up!

 

Why you waiting for Nismo? You want some light weight rims, or maybe just a sticker? Nismo won't make your Max any faster.

 

Are you using edmunds times because the Max can pull off low 14's and trap at about 97-99 dependeing on driver so the Z isnt a whole lot faster at all than a 6spd Max.

 

The real question should be....Why did u get rid of your 540 for one of the ugliest cars on the road? I am a huge Bimmer fan and have driven tons of them, but the 745i is a huge disappointment. From the pictures I saw of the new 5, it looks like Chris Bangle messed up another beautiful design.

 

the ugliest cars on the road?? I hope not!
I got rid of my 540 because I relocated into the US and importing the 540 from where I was would have meant taking a near $10k in value as a reult of the excise taxes which I paid for on the car in my home country but would not be intrinsinc in the value of the car in the US so...better off to sell it in my home country than bring it here.

I bought the Max because after taking a huge hit in depreciation anyway on the 540 I swore I would never again buy a really expensive car and because driving in Oregon is S-L-O-W compared to where I lived, hence the 540 being overkill

And I agree 100% with u on the 745...Bangle should be castrated

 

No No No....The Maxima isnt ugly

I was under the impression you sold your 540i for a 745i. I test drove a Black/Black 745i with my dad a year ago. It was ugly and way too sophisticated. It drove pretty nice, but IMO it isnt an improvement on the E38 7 series.

 

As for the people with Maximas waiting on Nismo aftermarket, don't hold your breath. According to the July/August issue of Sales Talk, a magazine published by Nissan for sales "professionals", the Maxima is not on the list to receive support from Nismo.

 

Freakin' figures.

Buzz

 

Jumpin Jesus on a pogo stick. What is Nissan doing? Regardless, it's still 20hp more than our Maxima's dyno stock...so that extra HP is in our engines somewhere.