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Old 01-29-2003 | 05:37 AM
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Hids stolen...twice!

A friend of mine has a '02 max and he got his HID's stolen a couple of weeks ago. He finally got his car back yesterday and four hours later, they were gone!

People suck. Maybe they should fight a war here against all the people who are lazy scum who can't get there lazy butts up to find a job. Instead they need to steal from hard working people who now face higher insurance rates or cancellation if it happens again.

Sorry, I'm just ****ed.

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Old 01-29-2003 | 06:18 AM
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this is really getting bad. Nissan needs to step up to the plate and fix this problem.
Old 01-29-2003 | 07:16 AM
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Re: Hids stolen...twice!

Originally posted by Cabowabo
A friend of mine has a '02 max and he got his HID's stolen a couple of weeks ago. He finally got his car back yesterday and four hours later, they were gone!

People suck. Maybe they should fight a war here against all the people who are lazy scum who can't get there lazy butts up to find a job. Instead they need to steal from hard working people who now face higher insurance rates or cancellation if it happens again.

Sorry, I'm just ****ed.

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Sounds like he needs to move. Where is he located?
Old 01-29-2003 | 07:34 AM
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Sounds like he needs to move. Where is he located?


If I was living in an area where I couldn't leave my damn car outside I'd get the hell outta there! If you have the money to spend on a 2k2 Maxima and live in that type of area - your priorities need to be straightened!
Old 01-29-2003 | 09:11 AM
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If I was living in an area where I couldn't leave my damn car outside I'd get the hell outta there! If you have the money to spend on a 2k2 Maxima and live in that type of area - your priorities need to be straightened!
I agree about the priorities! I've seen it all too often: college kids living in marginal apartment complexes but driving BMWs, Acuras and yes, Maximas just to impress the chicks and paying dearly for it. Of course, that's not as bad as parking a shiny Maxima on the streets of NYC which of course would be crazy! A rule of thumb should be "don't buy a Maxima unless you have a garage for it!"
Old 01-29-2003 | 09:32 AM
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I agree about the priorities! I've seen it all too often: college kids living in marginal apartment complexes but driving BMWs, Acuras and yes, Maximas just to impress the chicks and paying dearly for it.
Man, you guys sure think a lot of yourselves! The Maxima is priced just a little above average for new car. It's got a fast engine. But, it's not such a big deal that you should feel like you've made it into some financially secure elite.

Where you decide to live, what you decide to drive, how many times you eat out every month, that doesn't matter.

What's your net worth?

I'll only be impressed with you driving a 2k2 or 2k3 Maxima if you have the title taped to the side window - meaning you paid cash or have already paid it off.
Old 01-29-2003 | 09:50 AM
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If I was living in an area where I couldn't leave my damn car outside I'd get the hell outta there! If you have the money to spend on a 2k2 Maxima and live in that type of area - your priorities need to be straightened!
cmon.....lets be realistic..how are you gonna blame someone for something they own being stolen. some people arent fortunate enough to live in really nice places..but does that mean that you cant have a nice car? so they should move to accomodate there car..thats ridiculous. thats what insurance is for, i dont know where you live , but i live in LI NY, in a pretty nice nieghborhood and have had a car stolen right in front of my house. fact is no matter where you live city state or borough things get ripped off...theives usually dont steal from there own neighborhood anyways, they usually travel to the nice areas where its quiet and large selections of nice cars from hondas to benzs. if you own a nice car or motorcycle someone gonna wanna ripp it off...and theres really not much you can do about ,alarms and anti theft devices even garages...its really not hard to get into someones garage especially if the have an automatic opener...if its made by man it can be taken apart by man...sad but true, i dont wanna com e across as a ****, but comments like that really make no sense , just my .02
Old 01-29-2003 | 10:39 AM
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Man, you guys sure think a lot of yourselves! The Maxima is priced just a little above average for new car. It's got a fast engine. But, it's not such a big deal that you should feel like you've made it into some financially secure elite.

Where you decide to live, what you decide to drive, how many times you eat out every month, that doesn't matter.

What's your net worth?

I'll only be impressed with you driving a 2k2 or 2k3 Maxima if you have the title taped to the side window - meaning you paid cash or have already paid it off.
a little above avg? how much does a civic cost vs. a max??? and since were all drug dealers we pay for everything in cash with drug $$ and we dont wanna build credt by having car payments
Old 01-29-2003 | 10:49 AM
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a little above avg? how much does a civic cost vs. a max??? and since were all drug dealers we pay for everything in cash with drug $$ and we dont wanna build credt by having car payments
http://www.ott.doe.gov/facts/archives/fotw219supp.shtml

Average new car price for 2001 cars, reported in June 2002, was $21,607. It was lower for domestic cars, and over $27K for imports.

So, add in a little inflation...
Old 01-29-2003 | 10:57 AM
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Actually with rates being as low as .9% and 2.9% (depending on the length of the loan) you would be stupid to pay cash instead of financing the debt. If you had the $26K in cash, invest it for 5-years at 5% and finance the car for 2.9% and you will come out ahead than if you had just bought the car with cash. So if you drive around with the title taped to the window, then I will know that a fool and his money were separated once again.

Also, the cost of a Maxima may be on average for new car prices, but the vast majority of the public will never own a NEW car. Most cars are purchased used, so for a less than 30-year old to be able to afford a house payment and a nice car like the Max, I would say they are doing pretty well for themselves...better than average anyway.

If Nissan would just produce a metal bracket with the same dimensions as the plastic pieces that are used to bolt the lights on now, this would cease to be a problem. If I worked in a metal shop, that is what I would do and then sell them on here and make a killing.
Old 01-29-2003 | 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by simpleMax


Man, you guys sure think a lot of yourselves! The Maxima is priced just a little above average for new car. It's got a fast engine. But, it's not such a big deal that you should feel like you've made it into some financially secure elite.

Where you decide to live, what you decide to drive, how many times you eat out every month, that doesn't matter.

What's your net worth?

I'll only be impressed with you driving a 2k2 or 2k3 Maxima if you have the title taped to the side window - meaning you paid cash or have already paid it off.
I'm worth $1 billion dollars

When I said "Sounds like he should move" I was not trying to come off as a snob, but rather that he should look into moving into an area that does not have such a high crime rate. I used to live in the Bronx NY and moved to Yonkers NY for about the same rent. Now granted, they were both sh^it holes but Yonkers was far better than the Bronx and my car wasn't broken into at all (as opposed to 3 times in the Bronx).

I understand that crime can happen anywhere, but let me tell you there is a lot less police activity in LI where I bought my house than in Yonkers or the Bronx.

My point is, people may not want to move to a particlar neighborhood or buy a house but EVERYONE wants to be able to get a good night's sleep and not have to worry about their car. Once you factor in the increased cost of insurance and time that the car was in the shop moving to a lower crime area would not be much more money.

I'm not passing judgement, but I would not be able to sleep at night if that happened to me.
Old 01-29-2003 | 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by FASST LN
Actually with rates being as low as .9% and 2.9% (depending on the length of the loan) you would be stupid to pay cash instead of financing the debt. If you had the $26K in cash, invest it for 5-years at 5% and finance the car for 2.9% and you will come out ahead than if you had just bought the car with cash.
Old 01-29-2003 | 12:01 PM
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He is located in Bloomfield NJ. I know he doesn't live in the greatest area but he has the right to live where he chooses too. At this point he wants to get rid of the car but he's in a lease so that will prove to be difficult for him to do. He also told me that there is a dealer on rt. 22 and they hit that place and took a bunch of HID's from the cars in their lot. Nissan really does need to do something about this situation.

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Old 01-29-2003 | 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by Cabowabo
Nissan really does need to do something about this situation.

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And please explain why?

Look at it from their business perspective.

Whether privately paid or insurance covered, the lights still need to be purchased from Nissan when sets are stolen. Talk about a captive market.
Old 01-29-2003 | 12:06 PM
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If Nissan would just produce a metal bracket with the same dimensions as the plastic pieces that are used to bolt the lights on now, this would cease to be a problem. If I worked in a metal shop, that is what I would do and then sell them on here and make a killing.
I have a friend who works in a metal shop and would be more than happy to start making them immediately. Is there a member here in KC who has a 2K2 we can look at to get the dimensions? Or can somebody very accurately give me the specs on the plastic ones?
Old 01-29-2003 | 12:16 PM
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I have a friend who works in a metal shop and would be more than happy to start making them immediately. Is there a member here in KC who has a 2K2 we can look at to get the dimensions? Or can somebody very accurately give me the specs on the plastic ones?
I have been thinking of doing that but it is no use. they will still mess with your car and when they find out the hids can't be stolen your car will be in worse condition, better off letting them take the hids. i am currently looking at different options to protect the hids.
Old 01-29-2003 | 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by Rich96


I have a friend who works in a metal shop and would be more than happy to start making them immediately. Is there a member here in KC who has a 2K2 we can look at to get the dimensions? Or can somebody very accurately give me the specs on the plastic ones?
That's what I was thinking. A metal bracket looks like it would fit right over the tabs and you should cover most of the top of the lense as well.

No wonder they hit the max so much, easy to get the whole light out.

From what I've read here, this is hitting the new york metro and North Jersey area hard. If you own a 2k2 or 2k3 max in that area, might as well weld those lights to the car somehow. Only way to start deterring this is to start making the theft tough.
Old 01-29-2003 | 12:26 PM
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jjs is right
Nissan is not going to do a damn thing about this for several reasons.

1. Money in their pockets

2. This problem looks like it's isolated to the Northeast areas (not
a big enough problem for Nissan to take action)

3. Nissan will lose money (They will need to design something, test and produce it)

4. It's not a safety issue

5. Nissan don't care

We just need to watch where we park.
Old 01-29-2003 | 12:29 PM
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I have a question

What makes nissan lights different in being stolen so much compared to other HID capable vehicles like Lexus'? Maybe we need to superglue our shi*.
Old 01-29-2003 | 12:32 PM
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Re: I have a question

Originally posted by Oxidizer2k
What makes nissan lights different in being stolen so much compared to other HID capable vehicles like Lexus'? Maybe we need to superglue our shi*.

http://forums.maxima.org/search.php

There have been TONS of threads on this.
Old 01-29-2003 | 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by Cabowabo
He is located in Bloomfield NJ. I know he doesn't live in the greatest area but he has the right to live where he chooses too. At this point he wants to get rid of the car but he's in a lease so that will prove to be difficult for him to do. He also told me that there is a dealer on rt. 22 and they hit that place and took a bunch of HID's from the cars in their lot. Nissan really does need to do something about this situation.

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RT22??!?!?!! AHHH!! I was just there on saturday to complain about my dim ses light and bose and I saw a few maximas missing their HIDs

I have to drop my car off there for a few days so they can order the gauge cluster..Should I remove my own HIDs and bring them back when I pick up the car??!
Old 01-29-2003 | 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by GLE02NJ
RT22??!?!?!! AHHH!! I was just there on saturday to complain about my dim ses light and bose and I saw a few maximas missing their HIDs

I have to drop my car off there for a few days so they can order the gauge cluster..Should I remove my own HIDs and bring them back when I pick up the car??!
!!!!!DO NOT DROP IT OFF!!!!!!

Bring it in when they have the gauge cluster. There is no need to risk it sitting on their lot overnight.
Old 01-29-2003 | 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by simpleMax


Man, you guys sure think a lot of yourselves! The Maxima is priced just a little above average for new car. It's got a fast engine. But, it's not such a big deal that you should feel like you've made it into some financially secure elite.

Where you decide to live, what you decide to drive, how many times you eat out every month, that doesn't matter.

What's your net worth?

I'll only be impressed with you driving a 2k2 or 2k3 Maxima if you have the title taped to the side window - meaning you paid cash or have already paid it off.
Simple, because of your age I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you go around and observe what today's college kids are driving. If you think that a Maxima is not too much for them, then maybe I got it all wrong. But in my days, I couldn't afford a new car (ANY new car) while going to college, paying off all my bills so I can graduate with 0 debt. FYI, my "old" 2k Max has been paid off for a couple of years already and my credit is above 800. What about yours?
Old 01-29-2003 | 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by simpleMax


http://www.ott.doe.gov/facts/archives/fotw219supp.shtml

Average new car price for 2001 cars, reported in June 2002, was $21,607. It was lower for domestic cars, and over $27K for imports.

So, add in a little inflation...
that proves nothing btw but thanks for show and tell.
Old 01-29-2003 | 02:24 PM
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HID's are hot in the NY/NJ area. Route 10 Nissan in East Hanover had something like $27,000 worth of HID's stolen off their new car inventory a couple months ago.

Hell, I don't WANT HID's at this rate.
Old 01-29-2003 | 03:56 PM
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This might sound crazy but is there a way where you can pull your headlights out when you park your maxima. Kinda like a pull-out radio? Plz don't flame, just adding a idea to the mix.
Old 01-29-2003 | 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by simpleMax


Man, you guys sure think a lot of yourselves! The Maxima is priced just a little above average for new car. It's got a fast engine. But, it's not such a big deal that you should feel like you've made it into some financially secure elite.

Where you decide to live, what you decide to drive, how many times you eat out every month, that doesn't matter.

What's your net worth?

I'll only be impressed with you driving a 2k2 or 2k3 Maxima if you have the title taped to the side window - meaning you paid cash or have already paid it off.
LOL
I paid cash for my 2k2!!!
How do you like them apples!
But bottom line, it is a car that depreciates faster than the taxes I pay each eary on the thing (started out at $800 and only goes down 10% a year. so that means next year I will pay an additional $720 and so for the next year) .
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Old 01-29-2003 | 04:21 PM
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Well Acura Tl lights have been getting ripped for some time now as well..
What makes nissan lights different in being stolen so much compared to other HID capable vehicles like Lexus'? Maybe we need to superglue our shi*.
First all Lexus HIDs are self leveling. Second, they are not made cheaply. You got to take apart the whole front end to take the lights out. You can't just get a crow bar and pull em out.
Old 01-30-2003 | 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by MoCoMax
HID's are hot in the NY/NJ area. Route 10 Nissan in East Hanover had something like $27,000 worth of HID's stolen off their new car inventory a couple months ago.

Hell, I don't WANT HID's at this rate.
27,000 they got off lucky!
My dealership had $38,000 in engine harnesses alone
when we got hit the first time and then another $38,000
for headlamps
then quests for driver or passenger front windows
and flip down tv screens
then paint and body repairs
we were well over $150,000 in damage in one night!

Oh and another tidbit of info
nissan s anti theft headlamp kit would work good,
if the thievs actually opened the hood to remove the lamps
and not just pry them out.
THIEVS REALLY SUCK!
Old 01-30-2003 | 04:47 PM
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If Nissan would just produce a metal bracket with the same dimensions as the plastic pieces that are used to bolt the lights on now, this would cease to be a problem. If I worked in a metal shop, that is what I would do and then sell them on here and make a killing. [/B][/QUOTE]

Could someone please do this, I suspect alot of interest from us 2k2 and 2k3 owners, I know I would be in.
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Originally posted by GuZo
If Nissan would just produce a metal bracket with the same dimensions as the plastic pieces that are used to bolt the lights on now, this would cease to be a problem. If I worked in a metal shop, that is what I would do and then sell them on here and make a killing.
Could someone please do this, I suspect alot of interest from us 2k2 and 2k3 owners, I know I would be in. [/B][/QUOTE]

im already 1 step ahead of u
i got my hands on a few sets of recovered stolen units
six complete sets and a bunch of broken brackets
im just tryin to match the broken bracket to the
damaged headlamp housing and then i can start expermentin'

They call me The Mad Scientist
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Originally posted by Cabowabo
He is located in Bloomfield NJ. I
Dude..... Tell him to stay away from the CLIFTON COMMONS!!!!
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