Angel Eye fog lights.....
oh yeah
i'm in....as long as there are instructions and i can figure out a way to do it with the light switch of the car (i don't like extra switches), then it'll be alright! but i'm definitely in....hopefully you let us know within the next week! jus' drop an e-mail ASAP. thanks!
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Installed, I90hp killa and NYC GS4(GXE) have seen them.
READ THIS FULLY AND UNDERSTAND.
The main problem is the bracket, no center hole.
Next is that the factory foglamps have a cage for the actual fog light unit. Either you mutilate your factory cage and bolt the Hella lamps on that cage and install them like you took out your factory foglamps. I say that cause the screws holding the foglight in place is a bish to get out. If you go this route, you have just ruined a $130 factory foglamp. Why ? No space for bolt to fit between cage and bumper. The two line up pins never get in, and you are back to square one. If you try rivetting the Hella bracket to the cage, and you don't crack the cage, then you are lucky. I was not. So now its official, $130 foglamps wasted. Moving on.
The option of drilling a center hole in the middle of the bracket.
YOU MUST use your stock bolt clip, the 10mm bolt you take out to remove the foglamp. So measure out the center and place the bolt clip down the center and mark and drill.
Installing, the bracket is a bit wide for the actual bumper, so you have to contort to different shapes to truly get them to fit.
Aimming them, you have to get it just right, leave it tight, but just tight enough that you can pivot left to right. Up and down action is tight since the foglamps are now recessed inside the bumper.
The foglamps do put more light on the floor than stock foglamps.
Be warned, that you must use the relay kit that comes with the kit. I started blowing out LEDs when I hardwired to a 12V source, namely side bumper lamps.
This is the drama I went through, before I had them stolen, and I bought another set for $49.
Post pics of unit and what I mean in a day or so.
READ THIS FULLY AND UNDERSTAND.
The main problem is the bracket, no center hole.
Next is that the factory foglamps have a cage for the actual fog light unit. Either you mutilate your factory cage and bolt the Hella lamps on that cage and install them like you took out your factory foglamps. I say that cause the screws holding the foglight in place is a bish to get out. If you go this route, you have just ruined a $130 factory foglamp. Why ? No space for bolt to fit between cage and bumper. The two line up pins never get in, and you are back to square one. If you try rivetting the Hella bracket to the cage, and you don't crack the cage, then you are lucky. I was not. So now its official, $130 foglamps wasted. Moving on.
The option of drilling a center hole in the middle of the bracket.
YOU MUST use your stock bolt clip, the 10mm bolt you take out to remove the foglamp. So measure out the center and place the bolt clip down the center and mark and drill.
Installing, the bracket is a bit wide for the actual bumper, so you have to contort to different shapes to truly get them to fit.
Aimming them, you have to get it just right, leave it tight, but just tight enough that you can pivot left to right. Up and down action is tight since the foglamps are now recessed inside the bumper.
The foglamps do put more light on the floor than stock foglamps.
Be warned, that you must use the relay kit that comes with the kit. I started blowing out LEDs when I hardwired to a 12V source, namely side bumper lamps.
This is the drama I went through, before I had them stolen, and I bought another set for $49.
Post pics of unit and what I mean in a day or so.
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Originally posted by TRuFLiPpeR
whoa, that's a pretty bad horror story.....sounds like too much work to look like a bmw.....let me retract my last post then and see what other people have to say. sorry!
n1cK!
whoa, that's a pretty bad horror story.....sounds like too much work to look like a bmw.....let me retract my last post then and see what other people have to say. sorry!
n1cK!
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i think it should be mentioned this thread is NOT for a group deal. some people believe there is a group deal and there isn't cuz the lights can be purchased at the store for the same price.
tbpnyc007 is right. My friend and I went through it already. It's NOT a perfect swap and replace fog lights. The stock foglights are not perfect circles like the angel eyes. Also tbpnyc007 hit it on the money, taking out the stock foglights are a pain in the a$$.
speedy2k1: u can't see the ring if the fogs are on (too bright thus u can't see the ring).
flordabornmax: i don't think shops will do this install cuz of the amount of work. maybe performance places will do it.
pix is on the 5th page for those asking for pix.
tbpnyc007 is right. My friend and I went through it already. It's NOT a perfect swap and replace fog lights. The stock foglights are not perfect circles like the angel eyes. Also tbpnyc007 hit it on the money, taking out the stock foglights are a pain in the a$$.
speedy2k1: u can't see the ring if the fogs are on (too bright thus u can't see the ring).
flordabornmax: i don't think shops will do this install cuz of the amount of work. maybe performance places will do it.
pix is on the 5th page for those asking for pix.
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Originally posted by tbpnyc007
Installed, I90hp killa and NYC GS4(GXE) have seen them.
READ THIS FULLY AND UNDERSTAND.
The option of drilling a center hole in the middle of the bracket.
YOU MUST use your stock bolt clip, the 10mm bolt you take out to remove the foglamp. So measure out the center and place the bolt clip down the center and mark and drill.
Installing, the bracket is a bit wide for the actual bumper, so you have to contort to different shapes to truly get them to fit.
Aimming them, you have to get it just right, leave it tight, but just tight enough that you can pivot left to right. Up and down action is tight since the foglamps are now recessed inside the bumper.
The foglamps do put more light on the floor than stock foglamps.
Be warned, that you must use the relay kit that comes with the kit. I started blowing out LEDs when I hardwired to a 12V source, namely side bumper lamps.
Post pics of unit and what I mean in a day or so.
Installed, I90hp killa and NYC GS4(GXE) have seen them.
READ THIS FULLY AND UNDERSTAND.
The option of drilling a center hole in the middle of the bracket.
YOU MUST use your stock bolt clip, the 10mm bolt you take out to remove the foglamp. So measure out the center and place the bolt clip down the center and mark and drill.
Installing, the bracket is a bit wide for the actual bumper, so you have to contort to different shapes to truly get them to fit.
Aimming them, you have to get it just right, leave it tight, but just tight enough that you can pivot left to right. Up and down action is tight since the foglamps are now recessed inside the bumper.
The foglamps do put more light on the floor than stock foglamps.
Be warned, that you must use the relay kit that comes with the kit. I started blowing out LEDs when I hardwired to a 12V source, namely side bumper lamps.
Post pics of unit and what I mean in a day or so.
Originally posted by tbpnyc007
Installed, I90hp killa and NYC GS4(GXE) have seen them.
READ THIS FULLY AND UNDERSTAND.
The main problem is the bracket, no center hole.
Next is that the factory foglamps have a cage for the actual fog light unit. Either you mutilate your factory cage and bolt the Hella lamps on that cage and install them like you took out your factory foglamps. I say that cause the screws holding the foglight in place is a bish to get out. If you go this route, you have just ruined a $130 factory foglamp. Why ? No space for bolt to fit between cage and bumper. The two line up pins never get in, and you are back to square one. If you try rivetting the Hella bracket to the cage, and you don't crack the cage, then you are lucky. I was not. So now its official, $130 foglamps wasted. Moving on.
The option of drilling a center hole in the middle of the bracket.
YOU MUST use your stock bolt clip, the 10mm bolt you take out to remove the foglamp. So measure out the center and place the bolt clip down the center and mark and drill.
Installing, the bracket is a bit wide for the actual bumper, so you have to contort to different shapes to truly get them to fit.
Aimming them, you have to get it just right, leave it tight, but just tight enough that you can pivot left to right. Up and down action is tight since the foglamps are now recessed inside the bumper.
The foglamps do put more light on the floor than stock foglamps.
Be warned, that you must use the relay kit that comes with the kit. I started blowing out LEDs when I hardwired to a 12V source, namely side bumper lamps.
This is the drama I went through, before I had them stolen, and I bought another set for $49.
Post pics of unit and what I mean in a day or so.
Installed, I90hp killa and NYC GS4(GXE) have seen them.
READ THIS FULLY AND UNDERSTAND.
The main problem is the bracket, no center hole.
Next is that the factory foglamps have a cage for the actual fog light unit. Either you mutilate your factory cage and bolt the Hella lamps on that cage and install them like you took out your factory foglamps. I say that cause the screws holding the foglight in place is a bish to get out. If you go this route, you have just ruined a $130 factory foglamp. Why ? No space for bolt to fit between cage and bumper. The two line up pins never get in, and you are back to square one. If you try rivetting the Hella bracket to the cage, and you don't crack the cage, then you are lucky. I was not. So now its official, $130 foglamps wasted. Moving on.
The option of drilling a center hole in the middle of the bracket.
YOU MUST use your stock bolt clip, the 10mm bolt you take out to remove the foglamp. So measure out the center and place the bolt clip down the center and mark and drill.
Installing, the bracket is a bit wide for the actual bumper, so you have to contort to different shapes to truly get them to fit.
Aimming them, you have to get it just right, leave it tight, but just tight enough that you can pivot left to right. Up and down action is tight since the foglamps are now recessed inside the bumper.
The foglamps do put more light on the floor than stock foglamps.
Be warned, that you must use the relay kit that comes with the kit. I started blowing out LEDs when I hardwired to a 12V source, namely side bumper lamps.
This is the drama I went through, before I had them stolen, and I bought another set for $49.
Post pics of unit and what I mean in a day or so.
but i am not worried about the housing cuz im not going back to stock.. These look way too good..
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Re: Angel Eye fog lights.....
Originally posted by Pearl96Max
Hey guys, any interest in these? Made by Optilux (Hella) and they are a direct replacement for the 5th gen foglights. If enough people are interested, then I may be able to run a group deal on them. They are white LED powered "halos" with 55watt H3 bulbs (obviously can be easily changed). Here is a pic:
http://www.hellausa.com/optilux/angel_eyes.html
--Don
Hey guys, any interest in these? Made by Optilux (Hella) and they are a direct replacement for the 5th gen foglights. If enough people are interested, then I may be able to run a group deal on them. They are white LED powered "halos" with 55watt H3 bulbs (obviously can be easily changed). Here is a pic:
http://www.hellausa.com/optilux/angel_eyes.html
--Don
Looks sweet, Like all other ORG. members, there are some valid questions though, I'm game if we can get some answers to the questions.
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These fog lights looks pretty cool, but they have halogen bulbs. Doesn't that mean that it will project a yellowish color? even if the bulb can be changed, it is still 55W, halogne bulbs except with a whiter color, which wont light up the road as good as just plain yellow/sun colors.
Anyone know where I can buy one set that's similar to the Lexus IS300 fog lights? I want something that's super bright yellow like the IS300. I think it will look good, and better lighting ON the road.
Anyone know where I can buy one set that's similar to the Lexus IS300 fog lights? I want something that's super bright yellow like the IS300. I think it will look good, and better lighting ON the road.
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Re: Re: Angel Eye fog lights.....
Originally posted by fmacdowell
Hey Don,
Looks sweet, Like all other ORG. members, there are some valid questions though, I'm game if we can get some answers to the questions.
FRED.MACDOWELL@TWCABLE.COM
Hey Don,
Looks sweet, Like all other ORG. members, there are some valid questions though, I'm game if we can get some answers to the questions.
FRED.MACDOWELL@TWCABLE.COM
let us know. 
A general summary (and difficulty) of the installation is on page 6. There hasn't been any group deal either. oh there are some pix are on page 5 if you need to see them.
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Originally posted by PoweredbyNissan
These fog lights looks pretty cool, but they have halogen bulbs. Doesn't that mean that it will project a yellowish color? even if the bulb can be changed, it is still 55W,
These fog lights looks pretty cool, but they have halogen bulbs. Doesn't that mean that it will project a yellowish color? even if the bulb can be changed, it is still 55W,
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Originally posted by SterlingMist00
Actually, I re-read the entire thread and it seemd we all are calling these fog lights (including myself). They are 55W DRIVING lights; as noted on the box that I am looking at right now. So, that means that they will be much brighter than the OEM FOG lights and that they will project a different beam than the OEM fogs. Also, judging from the various photos, the light they project is not that yellow. I will know soon enough.........
Actually, I re-read the entire thread and it seemd we all are calling these fog lights (including myself). They are 55W DRIVING lights; as noted on the box that I am looking at right now. So, that means that they will be much brighter than the OEM FOG lights and that they will project a different beam than the OEM fogs. Also, judging from the various photos, the light they project is not that yellow. I will know soon enough.........
thanx for the 411 Sterling. I'll go check out the box again.
they're not too yellow.
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I found an old Eaglite H3 HID kit, which has a shorter bulb than the Hanabi kit I had in my stock foglights. They fit inside the Hella housing nicely, but be warned, these will blind anything that has eyes in front of you. Fog lights alone put down more light than the 2K2 headlamps I have on my 2K right now. The Eaglite kit is the plasma 5200K, I picked it up from Ebay for $360. I don't know if they still sell em, but I can't get a good picture of these cause they look a bit greenish on camera. The color is more bluish, but hopefully I can borrow Rba's digicam in a day or so. 
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Originally posted by tbpnyc007
I found an old Eaglite H3 HID kit, which has a shorter bulb than the Hanabi kit I had in my stock foglights. They fit inside the Hella housing nicely, but be warned, these will blind anything that has eyes in front of you. Fog lights alone put down more light than the 2K2 headlamps I have on my 2K right now. The Eaglite kit is the plasma 5200K, I picked it up from Ebay for $360. I don't know if they still sell em, but I can't get a good picture of these cause they look a bit greenish on camera. The color is more bluish, but hopefully I can borrow Rba's digicam in a day or so.
I found an old Eaglite H3 HID kit, which has a shorter bulb than the Hanabi kit I had in my stock foglights. They fit inside the Hella housing nicely, but be warned, these will blind anything that has eyes in front of you. Fog lights alone put down more light than the 2K2 headlamps I have on my 2K right now. The Eaglite kit is the plasma 5200K, I picked it up from Ebay for $360. I don't know if they still sell em, but I can't get a good picture of these cause they look a bit greenish on camera. The color is more bluish, but hopefully I can borrow Rba's digicam in a day or so.
i'd never thought i'd see that. i'll probably just change the bulbs to match the color of my headlamps.
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Originally posted by Trunksu
foglights blinding people? i'd never thought i'd see that. i'll probably just change the bulbs to match the color of my headlamps.
foglights blinding people?
i'd never thought i'd see that. i'll probably just change the bulbs to match the color of my headlamps.
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I'd like to add that I have just completed a HID Xenon D2S set up. Complete Hella Ballast + D2S bulb + Hella Optilux housing. Details to come tonite. [/edit-add]
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That's right boys and girls...........I am now Angel Eyed!.
Had Jeff (MaximumTuning.net) install the Optilux AngelEyes on my 5th gen.
I am now a member of a handfull of Maxima's with this mod; and they look spectacular.
See this thread for more info- http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=194121
Had Jeff (MaximumTuning.net) install the Optilux AngelEyes on my 5th gen.
I am now a member of a handfull of Maxima's with this mod; and they look spectacular.
See this thread for more info- http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=194121
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Originally posted by SterlingMist00
That's right boys and girls...........I am now Angel Eyed!.
Had Jeff (MaximumTuning.net) install the Optilux AngelEyes on my 5th gen.
I am now a member of a handfull of Maxima's with this mod; and they look spectacular.
See this thread for more info- http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=194121
That's right boys and girls...........I am now Angel Eyed!.
Had Jeff (MaximumTuning.net) install the Optilux AngelEyes on my 5th gen.
I am now a member of a handfull of Maxima's with this mod; and they look spectacular.
See this thread for more info- http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=194121
The D2S conversion is real easy. Open up the Hella housing, two screws for cover, and 2 screws for H3 bulb. Place a D2S bulb on the outside housing where the two screws go for the cover. There is a notch in the D2S bulb, line that up with one hole, install screw, mark area where other screw should go, straight accross. Dremel as needed, and install D2S bulb, there will be slight gaps, and next option is either silicone or use a balloon. I chose balloon since I hate silicone smell + didn't wanna leave screws exposed to HID plug in case one day it decides to arc. Cut balloon in center, and wrap it over D2S HID Bulb. Test fit plug and make sure its nice and stable. Get under the car, and route plug through side hole of foglight housing in the bumper, secure the plug on bulb, and carefully remount, judging with eyes to get center, leave a lil room to pivot left to right, cause w/ HIDs, it won't matter up and down. Test fire. Starts blue, goes into white-blue phase w/ a slight halo of yellow. The HID bulb's light source is exposed enough to provide insane light out of these small foglamps. While the Eaglite set up was well defined since its a retrofit H3-HID bulb, the D2S was spread all over my garage wall. Hopefully I can drag out my friend tonite to grab a few pix.
There it is in a nutshell what's involved.
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Originally posted by Trunksu
foglights blinding people? i'd never thought i'd see that. i'll probably just change the bulbs to match the color of my headlamps.
foglights blinding people?
i'd never thought i'd see that. i'll probably just change the bulbs to match the color of my headlamps.
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Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT
Yes, foglights blind people. Even factory foglights can cause a wicked glare off a wet road. Wet roads are the general reason some people hate fogs.
Yes, foglights blind people. Even factory foglights can cause a wicked glare off a wet road. Wet roads are the general reason some people hate fogs.
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Originally posted by SterlingMist00
Posted new pics of Optilux Angel Eyes and Unorthodox UDP on my home page.....check them out (bottom of Pages 1 & 2).
Pics
Posted new pics of Optilux Angel Eyes and Unorthodox UDP on my home page.....check them out (bottom of Pages 1 & 2).
Pics
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Originally posted by BigCmax
Does anyone have a part number on the Optilux Angel Eyes? What retailers carry the one for the 5th gen Max?
Does anyone have a part number on the Optilux Angel Eyes? What retailers carry the one for the 5th gen Max?
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Originally posted by SterlingMist00
On my 2K the Angel Eyes are wired to come on with only the parking lights.....so they can stand out even more; without having to have the headlights on......
On my 2K the Angel Eyes are wired to come on with only the parking lights.....so they can stand out even more; without having to have the headlights on......
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The housing (cages) where the OEM foglights are nestled need to be modified to fit the Angel eyes. Mine were installed by Jeff Renaldo of MaximumTuning.net. I don't remember the price of install since he bundled the cost of the install with the install of my UDP. Just give him a call and he will give you what you need...
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Originally posted by MAXRAY
how hard's the install? what's the typical cost for install?
how hard's the install? what's the typical cost for install?
I found this on ebay, are halo fogs a pain to install and not even worth the effort to put in? Im an impatient person, but I will stick it out and finish the job if the outcome is worth it. Currently I have stock '00 headlamps and will be swapping to the halo headlamps within the next few weeks. What do ya'll think after the install? I need some input on these things. Thanks.
I found this on ebay, are halo fogs a pain to install and not even worth the effort to put in? Im an impatient person, but I will stick it out and finish the job if the outcome is worth it. Currently I have stock '00 headlamps and will be swapping to the halo headlamps within the next few weeks. What do ya'll think after the install? I need some input on these things. Thanks.
I hope it wasnt the scantily clad santas helper that is sucking you into buying this junk.
Seriously...get OEM-i've gone through literally 4 or 5 sets of aftermarket fogs on 5th gens and spending quite a bit more than that at times and have settled on the OEM fogs-upgrading the bulbs DOES make a difference too.
Plus..keep in mind the pain in the a$$ when you have to change a bulb-OEM FTW!!
Well I was wondering if it was worth a shot. Since you seem to have a lot of problems with them and everyone else is complaining the install I guess I will keep em stock. Thanks for the input.
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