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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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Another Intake Discussion

First, let me start by saying, Yes I did do a search and read a lot of comments on this topic. However, most of the previous threads were from several months ago. A lot of things/opinions could have changed since then.

I would like to get some feedback on intakes. I have been looking at the CAI from Adventon and it appears to be a good deal (~$220 ), but I wanted to hear some comments from people who have been using this for a while. Also, would like to hear some comments from the Franckencar crowd. The Adventon CAI is not a true CAI because it does not require you to drill a hole in the fender. If I'm mistaken please let me know. Opinions on intakes such as the JWT Pop Charger and others are welcome as well. The wife will only allow so many mods before she starts questioning things (you married guys know what I'm talking about), so I'd like to make the best decision possible.

Thanks for the help.
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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I have had the Frankencar Intake for about 8 months now, and I absolutely love it. From the second you put it in your Max, you can feel the difference. It makes a wonderful sound also! Another thing it was very easy to install. Any questions let me know!
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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Re: Another Intake Discussion

Originally posted by HSVMaxima
The wife will only allow so many mods before she starts questioning things (you married guys know what I'm talking about), so I'd like to make the best decision possible.

Thanks for the help.
I hear you there
If I have a Frankencar pipe with JWT pop charger with K&N filter. When I got mine there was no other CAI, but the one which requires drilling. If I'm not mistaken Adventon sells Injen intakes. They look good, but I've read on this forum that it doesn't sound as good as Frankencar and also people are experiencing power loss when engine get hot. Filter is picking up too much hot air and pipe itself also gets hot. I've read that some people tried to use header wraps.
If I were you I would go with Frankencar. It's cheaper and performs as good as any other intake on the market
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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I know what a stock engine sounds like (duh)... and someone here posted an injen intake sound clip. Does anyone have a frankencar sound clip they'd like to share with the class?
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 10:23 AM
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HSVMaxima... I don't think we should any longer have to justify as to whether we did a search or not. For those who are so **** as to say "why didn't you search" or "we've talked about this before" blah blah... well, my answer is :asskick:

The forum exists for us to exchange about ideas, etc. Not to belittle someone and call them "noob" or berate them and try to remind them to search next time. Big F'ing deal.

Anyway... my question would be this... for those who have an intake, what are the effects as far as emissions, and what are the effects as far as damage to the MAF? I have read a lot of posts about members who put on an intake and end up frying their MAF once, twice, even more... ??

When Injen advertises their "CAI", then since you don't have to drill a hole, does that mean that their CAI isn't a true CAI, correct?
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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I agree somewhat, but that's a battle you cannot win. I appreciate the additional questions to be answered though. I just want to make a good choice. I think sometimes it's important to remember that even though a topic may have been asked before, over time things change and people change their opinions. That's all I was trying to say. I just mentioned that I had done a search so I wouldn't have to weed through those "do a search" inputs.
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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Got to reading on Frankencar.com and noticed that if you add an Apexi Dry Filter the cost goes up to $198 dollars. They recommend this for 02-03 Max's because of the over-sensitive MAF. My question is, if there is concern about the orignial Frankencar intake damaging the MAF, shouldn't it be recommended that everyone purchase the Apexi Dry Filter?
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by HSVMaxima
Got to reading on Frankencar.com and noticed that if you add an Apexi Dry Filter the cost goes up to $198 dollars. They recommend this for 02-03 Max's because of the over-sensitive MAF. My question is, if there is concern about the orignial Frankencar intake damaging the MAF, shouldn't it be recommended that everyone purchase the Apexi Dry Filter?
I've heard of damage with the APEXI as well...
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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As well I would like to hear sound clips if possible without exaust.
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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1) There was a post a while back that said the Apexi filter actually will cause a loss in HP. I don't think that I read the whole thread, or I just don't remember it all, but I'm pretty sure that was the outcome of some test.

2) Usually, the older members will tell you to search when you are asking the same question that has been asked many times before. And by searching you can find the answer you are looking for, and you will cause less conjestion on the site than you would by posting a new thread. With a new thread, there are lots more people viewing it, as opposed to you being the only one to read through the old searched threads, and it causes lots of people, like myself, to respond to the thread.

3) With all that said I will get to the main topic of your thread... I think that most people are satisfied with the intake that they purchased. I don't think that you will ever truly find out which intake is the best. Everyone wants to think that theirs is the best one out there, and when asked, they will tell you that.

4) The reason for why the Injen is not a true CAI is because the filter is still inside the engine bay. For a true CAI, the filter has to be outside of the engine bay, thus drawing cold outside air. If you can route the pipes to the outside without drilling a hole, then it would still be a true CAI.
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by D Love
1) There was a post a while back that said the Apexi filter actually will cause a loss in HP. I don't think that I read the whole thread, or I just don't remember it all, but I'm pretty sure that was the outcome of some test.

2) Usually, the older members will tell you to search when you are asking the same question that has been asked many times before. And by searching you can find the answer you are looking for, and you will cause less conjestion on the site than you would by posting a new thread. With a new thread, there are lots more people viewing it, as opposed to you being the only one to read through the old searched threads, and it causes lots of people, like myself, to respond to the thread.

3) With all that said I will get to the main topic of your thread... I think that most people are satisfied with the intake that they purchased. I don't think that you will ever truly find out which intake is the best. Everyone wants to think that theirs is the best one out there, and when asked, they will tell you that.

4) The reason for why the Injen is not a true CAI is because the filter is still inside the engine bay. For a true CAI, the filter has to be outside of the engine bay, thus drawing cold outside air. If you can route the pipes to the outside without drilling a hole, then it would still be a true CAI.
Thanks for the info. Are you personally running either one? I'm really just debating on whether to get the Frankencar (which seems to be widely used) or the Adventon semi-CAI. However, I don't want either one if they will damage the MAF.
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by D Love

2) Usually, the older members will tell you to search when you are asking the same question that has been asked many times before. And by searching you can find the answer you are looking for, and you will cause less conjestion on the site than you would by posting a new thread. With a new thread, there are lots more people viewing it, as opposed to you being the only one to read through the old searched threads, and it causes lots of people, like myself, to respond to the thread.
It's more than just that. This site has a slight bandwith problem if you haven't noticed and this type of thread just takes up more with people looking at it and responding to it. And to say this question has been asked many times is an understatement. Its been beat to death 100 times over. The guy is full of it, saying that the last post on the topic is 2 months old. BS! I just did a search for intake in just 5th gen and after the 5th page of results I finally got to see a January 03 post date. I even did a search for "Another Intake Discussion" and got 45 results. Come on now take the time to look around you'll find more info than you can use here.
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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...However, I don't want either one if they will damage the MAF.
You are throwing the dice here. Percentages dictate that its a minor risk, especially if you are <2002. BUT, based on oiling and other wierd circumstances that have reared their head <2002 machines have experienced MAF issues. Just nowhere near the rate of the 2K2+ machines.

Yeah I LOVE the sound. It "seems" (read: buttdyno) quicker at higher MPH...but you do loose some bottom end.

I have a Franken, but pulled it off the car because I am not playing that game right now. If you want it...its yours. I have the bands, mount and everything. I will send ya the filter but not charge for it because its used K&N. 40 bones seem ok to ya?

Good luck with your decision.
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by 255HP_03_SE
HSVMaxima... I don't think we should any longer have to justify as to whether we did a search or not. For those who are so **** as to say "why didn't you search" or "we've talked about this before" blah blah... well, my answer is :asskick:

The forum exists for us to exchange about ideas, etc. Not to belittle someone and call them "noob" or berate them and try to remind them to search next time. Big F'ing deal.

Anyway... my question would be this... for those who have an intake, what are the effects as far as emissions, and what are the effects as far as damage to the MAF? I have read a lot of posts about members who put on an intake and end up frying their MAF once, twice, even more... ??

When Injen advertises their "CAI", then since you don't have to drill a hole, does that mean that their CAI isn't a true CAI, correct?

Injen is true CAI on the 5th Gen. bacause it draws COLDER air away from the fan. It sits differently on ours then the 4th Gen.
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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Thanks for the info. Are you personally running either one? I'm really just debating on whether to get the Frankencar (which seems to be widely used) or the Adventon semi-CAI. However, I don't want either one if they will damage the MAF.
You're welcome. And, yes, I am currently running the Injen intake. To tell you the truth, I love it. I have not had any problems with my MAF (crossing my fingers while I say that), but I've only had the intake on for about 2-3 thousand miles. With my buttdyno I thought I did see a distinct improvement over stock...but we all know how accurate those buttdyno's can be. Especially when we have just spent some of our hard earned cash on the mod.
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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You're welcome. And, yes, I am currently running the Injen intake. To tell you the truth, I love it. I have not had any problems with my MAF (crossing my fingers while I say that), but I've only had the intake on for about 2-3 thousand miles. With my buttdyno I thought I did see a distinct improvement over stock...but we all know how accurate those buttdyno's can be. Especially when we have just spent some of our hard earned cash on the mod.

Yes, agreed
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 02:08 PM
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It's more than just that. This site has a slight bandwith problem if you haven't noticed and this type of thread just takes up more with people looking at it and responding to it. And to say this question has been asked many times is an understatement. Its been beat to death 100 times over. The guy is full of it, saying that the last post on the topic is 2 months old. BS! I just did a search for intake in just 5th gen and after the 5th page of results I finally got to see a January 03 post date. I even did a search for "Another Intake Discussion" and got 45 results. Come on now take the time to look around you'll find more info than you can use here.
OK, sorry I mistyped. Intake posts are daily. What I meant was I did a search on the Adventon intake and most of those discussions were 2 months old. This thread started out as a question concerning Adventon intakes but welcomed other intake opinions as well. The point was I did do a search. I just didn't want to waste the bandwidth for "Do a search" posts.
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by HSVMaxima


OK, sorry I mistyped. Intake posts are daily. What I meant was I did a search on the Adventon intake and most of those discussions were 2 months old. This thread started out as a question concerning Adventon intakes but welcomed other intake opinions as well. The point was I did do a search. I just didn't want to waste the bandwidth for "Do a search" posts.
Don't worry about it. Some people on this site are **** about everything that is posted. But most are very knowledgeable and very helpful.
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 04:16 AM
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Just to clarify... the intake is made by INJEN... the website is ADVENTON. I ordered my Injen intake from them, received it promptly, and installed in in under two hours (first engine mod ever). It sounds great, performs well, and looks good under the hood. You can see pictures at my homepage.

No matter which intake you decide to get, there are people here who will tell you that it's the best. Personally, I think that they are all well-made, and they all improve performance. It's simply a matter of personal preference.

I'm glad I bought the Injen because I think it's the best looking intake out there, and I like the growl and the quicker, more responsive throttle. I have a couple of small MPEGS that I took with my digital camera that will give you some idea of what it sounds like. I could email them to you if you'd like.
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by SG01MaxSE
I have a couple of small MPEGS that I took with my digital camera that will give you some idea of what it sounds like. I could email them to you if you'd like.
you've got mail... thanks
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by SG01MaxSE
Just to clarify... the intake is made by INJEN... the website is ADVENTON. I ordered my Injen intake from them, received it promptly, and installed in in under two hours (first engine mod ever). It sounds great, performs well, and looks good under the hood. You can see pictures at my homepage.

No matter which intake you decide to get, there are people here who will tell you that it's the best. Personally, I think that they are all well-made, and they all improve performance. It's simply a matter of personal preference.

I'm glad I bought the Injen because I think it's the best looking intake out there, and I like the growl and the quicker, more responsive throttle. I have a couple of small MPEGS that I took with my digital camera that will give you some idea of what it sounds like. I could email them to you if you'd like.

you've got more mail, thanks in advance.
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by SG01MaxSE
Just to clarify... the intake is made by INJEN... the website is ADVENTON. I ordered my Injen intake from them, received it promptly, and installed in in under two hours (first engine mod ever). It sounds great, performs well, and looks good under the hood. You can see pictures at my homepage.

No matter which intake you decide to get, there are people here who will tell you that it's the best. Personally, I think that they are all well-made, and they all improve performance. It's simply a matter of personal preference.

I'm glad I bought the Injen because I think it's the best looking intake out there, and I like the growl and the quicker, more responsive throttle. I have a couple of small MPEGS that I took with my digital camera that will give you some idea of what it sounds like. I could email them to you if you'd like.
Thanks for the good info and pics on your homepage.
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