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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 01:12 AM
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Gotta keep an eye on this one.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 01:19 AM
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Damn kloogy man, calm down.

I am not going to calm down. The reason is because I have read endless threads here for years about how no one makes any mods for Maxes. Now we are getting some. What do you guys think an ECU upgrade should cost ? Its not a chip ! Most chips are worthless , unless they are custom tuned for your car and mods. Its ok if you are married or Puntang whipped, and your sack is in a jar because you have no nuts to do what you want with your money. I am divorced, with alimony, but I do as I please. I just cant understand how you can be so cheap , butyet drive a 30k car...but then again, I think many of you are leasing



Well, give praise to these guys that actually are making mods for us .
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kloogy
I am not going to calm down. The reason is because I have read endless threads here for years about how no one makes any mods for Maxes. Now we are getting some. What do you guys think an ECU upgrade should cost ? Its not a chip ! Most chips are worthless , unless they are custom tuned for your car and mods. Its ok if you are married or Puntang whipped, and your sack is in a jar because you have no nuts to do what you want with your money. I am divorced, with alimony, but I do as I please. I just cant understand how you can be so cheap , butyet drive a 30k car...but then again, I think many of you are leasing



Well, give praise to these guys that actually are making mods for us .
I agree 100% with what your sayin bro. Btw-Whats a Lease
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 01:44 AM
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Btw-Whats a Lease
Dealer ==> <==Lease victim
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by kloogy
Dealer ==> <==Lease victim
Ive never seen some1 sume up a lease that well. Basically renting a ride for 3 yrs.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 05:16 AM
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Well, these mods may seem steep in price, until you consider that many folks have aftermarket wheels, and an aftermarket wheel and tire package starts at about $1200 for something cheap, and only goes north from there. I won't get into how easy it is to drop $500-600 in stereo equipment. All things are relative...
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 05:34 AM
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I am still awaiting prices on spare ECU's.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 05:36 AM
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ease up on the flames... everyone got their 2 cents in on being cheap/not cheap... try and stick to the topic. Thanks...
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 06:25 AM
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Methinks I am going to be keeping an eye on this thread. I might be interested once I get my '03 AT.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by kloogy




Cheap bastards everywhere.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
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I'm not quite sure about the new maximas ... but if you have an immobilizer key code, this is the only way you can make sure its your own key will start the car again.. hence the core swapping issue would be quiet difficult.. BUT if the 5 th gen maximas dont have immobilizers. then i dont forsee any problem about getting spare ecus from junk yards and sending those in with a core charge for swappage..

The 2K2+ have the Vehicle Immobilizer System. The keys are coded. How is that key code stored in the ECU? Is it hard coded or is it reprogrammable? Please don't flame me if those are stupid questions. I am trying to learn more about this. I am VERY interested in this mod. I would have no problem sending in my ECU to be reprogrammed.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 07:11 AM
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I have no problems with the flames. I admit I'm a cheap bastard. Most of the people here got their Maxima because it's a good value. I'm sure most of the people here have a car they'd like to own but don't because it's beyond they're ability to afford.

It's not what you make it's what you keep.

I'm not as upset about the $595 for the Flash as I am about the 5K for the Flasher. Especially if they'll fine tune it as part of the package. I just can't afford it now.

With the programmer/mapper look at what you get for the price. Cabling and a couple of floppies with a manual. That's a bit steep don't you think?

I don't think buying a spare ecu and swapping them out will work either. While it would be nice to avoid the down time the ignition key code will cause problems. Unless TS would flash them both and in the future it would make sending one in easier.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 07:45 AM
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Let's see...$1200~ish for pistons, $900 for custom Pauter connecting rods, $540 per wheel (Volks), ECU upgrade for $595...

Looks fine to me
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 07:48 AM
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There is a procedure to program a new key into your ecu. For example when u get a spare key cut and accidentally try to use it to start the car before getting it programmed, the ecu wipes off the code stored for security; then u have to get the dealer to get it reprogrammed, or they may be steps to follow. Just get the new ecu and call your dealer and tell him u used the wrong key to start the car. Or if you know someone at the dealer try to find out how it gets done.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 08:27 AM
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BTW I forgot to mention this. TS's site does say "'02+ Maxima 6spd"

http://www.technosquareinc.com/new.htm
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 08:32 AM
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I am going to have to discuss this OBD-II flash unit with a few local speed shops.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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Just as an update danny emailed me back and for the other people in here asking abotu 97-01 ecu upgrades I would just give up with technosqaure.....they dont have the hardware available to flash those model years..nor did he seem interested in getting/figuring it out.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDogJonx
Its a never ending debate on price vs cheapskates. Most of the people that cant afford them that open their pie hole are the ones that look on ebay and see intakes, turbo kits, etc for hondas and eclipses, and other cars go for probably less than 1/2 of what we end up paying. Why is this? Hmm I guess the biggest thing these people cant get through their steal re-inforced skull is that its SUPPLY and DEMAND. There aint nearly even remotely amount of maximas that are into modding as there are hondas. Thats it. Thats how simple the pricing structure comes down to.

If you want to complain about prices, how come no one complains about BMW modding prices? What about paying $7500 for a big brake kit? Want to bish about that? Want to pay $2700 for a set of headers? Makes us maxima people look like nickle and dime hustlers. Think first, then speak.

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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDogJonx
Its a never ending debate on price vs cheapskates. Most of the people that cant afford them that open their pie hole are the ones that look on ebay and see intakes, turbo kits, etc for hondas and eclipses, and other cars go for probably less than 1/2 of what we end up paying. Why is this? Hmm I guess the biggest thing these people cant get through their steal re-inforced skull is that its SUPPLY and DEMAND. There aint nearly even remotely amount of maximas that are into modding as there are hondas. Thats it. Thats how simple the pricing structure comes down to.

If you want to complain about prices, how come no one complains about BMW modding prices? What about paying $7500 for a big brake kit? Want to bish about that? Want to pay $2700 for a set of headers? Makes us maxima people look like nickle and dime hustlers. Think first, then speak.

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It was going to cost my wifes uncle $21000 to do all of the mods he looked into for his 330xi. He ended up buying something else to hot rod out.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 09:28 AM
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It was going to cost my wifes uncle $21000 to do all of the mods he looked into for his 330xi. He ended up buying something else to hot rod out.
Yeah, BMW's suck to mod (price wise). RENNTech M-B has good and relatively reasonable mods for the Mercedes vehicles, though. Wonder why such a difference? Maybe it's b/c RENNTech is here in the US...
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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its because the structure for the 97/98/99/00/01 ecus are all different inbetween those years... they need daughterboard phyiscal chips to be installed and each year has its own unique ecu.. crappy!

why it is easier with the newer cars is because they dont need specificly designed circuit boards to be manufacturered in order to impliment changes.... its not like they dont want to. they want to.. but then you have to think business.. out of those 5 different years... 5 different boards.. how many ppl are going to buy it to over come the R&D and production costs for wafer boards.. sad to say, there isnt enuf demand...





Originally Posted by infinitiblast
Just as an update danny emailed me back and for the other people in here asking abotu 97-01 ecu upgrades I would just give up with technosqaure.....they dont have the hardware available to flash those model years..nor did he seem interested in getting/figuring it out.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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Yeah, BMW's suck to mod (price wise). RENNTech M-B has good and relatively reasonable mods for the Mercedes vehicles, though. Wonder why such a difference? Maybe it's b/c RENNTech is here in the US...
Renntech is the same quality as AMG. Pops' car has Renntech parts and the kick ***
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 10:44 AM
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If ALL 2001s and 1/2 of 2000s use the same Cali spec. ECU, would that be enough demand to get TS interested?


Originally Posted by Chebosto
its because the structure for the 97/98/99/00/01 ecus are all different inbetween those years... they need daughterboard phyiscal chips to be installed and each year has its own unique ecu.. crappy!

why it is easier with the newer cars is because they dont need specificly designed circuit boards to be manufacturered in order to impliment changes.... its not like they dont want to. they want to.. but then you have to think business.. out of those 5 different years... 5 different boards.. how many ppl are going to buy it to over come the R&D and production costs for wafer boards.. sad to say, there isnt enuf demand...
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 10:55 AM
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$595 for 13-20 FWH.......sounds good to me. I am happy someone finally is doing these ECU's and I would almost kiss them for doing the 03 6 speed first!!!!! Now if someone would install these mysterious Steallin headers and get dynoed......can you say yeeeee Hawwwww.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by KL99SEA
$595 for 13-20 FWH.......sounds good to me. I am happy someone finally is doing these ECU's and I would almost kiss them for doing the 03 6 speed first!!!!! Now if someone would install these mysterious Steallin headers and get dynoed......can you say yeeeee Hawwwww.

I'd Chestons azz literally IF he could get TS to make an ECU for my car with a 7100rpm redline.
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
I'd Chestons azz literally IF he could get TS to make an ECU for my car with a 7100rpm redline.

I emailed Danny today asking for a 7500 rpm limit.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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I emailed Danny today asking for a 7500 rpm limit.
can the motor be pushed that far? my SE-R has a 8000 rpm limit
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 11:43 AM
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According to JWT the VQ30 valvetrain can't handle more then 7200 before valve float starts.

However, SR20DEN will probably go with some heavy duty valve springs and Ti retainers to allow 7500rpm.

I'd just be worried the VQ35 piston speed would reach critical levels, but maybe he intends to build up the bottom end also.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
I emailed Danny today asking for a 7500 rpm limit.

Have you seen 7100rpm?

I'd wait for that dyno *SUPPOSEDLY* coming Friday.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
According to JWT the VQ30 valvetrain can't handle more then 7200 before valve float starts.
The stock VQ30 can't be revved over 7200 without valve float. this much is true.

However, SR20DEN will probably go with some heavy duty valve springs and Ti retainers to allow 7500rpm.
No. I will likely use the stock springs and the stock VQ35 retainers. Mardigrasmax has discovered that the VQ35's have an Aluminum alloy valve retainer and it is lighter than Titanium. However they arent expected to be strong enough for high lift race cams or high tensil race springs. At most I will shim the stock springs to give a little more resistance.

I'd just be worried the VQ35 piston speed would reach critical levels, but maybe he intends to build up the bottom end also.
Just as 92 SE-R 02 SE said, the SR's go to 8000 all day long and they have a longer stroke than the VQ35. The Integra GSR and Honda S2000 motors also have a longer stroke and think about what they rev to.

Also, how many people on this board have over reved their VQ35's past 9000 rpms because of an accidental downshift? Several including myself. And ALL have motors have survived despite the fact that the input shaft bearings on the 6 speed trannies did not.

The new BMW M3 motors ain't got **** on the VQ35 as far as rev capabilities. They bend rods and come apart shortly after 8400. The VQ35 stays together well beyond that. Although I am not saying it is wise to rev a stock one that high without other needed mods.
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Oh he emailed me back. I got some generic retarded answer about damaging my motor and "We won't be held resonsible "


I hope this doesn't turn out to be another JWT.

If I want to rev my motor to 10,000 RPMs and blow it the **** up why should anyone else care? It's my money and my motor.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
No. I will likely use the stock springs and the stock VQ35 retainers. Mardigrasmax has discovered that the VQ35's have an Aluminum alloy valve retainer and it is lighter than Titanium. However they arent expected to be strong enough for high lift race cams or high tensil race springs. At most I will shim the stock springs to give a little more resistance.
Have you thought about SwainTech coating the springs? They claim it helps them last 3x longer, so I'd suspect it helps make them stiffer or less susceptible to the heat causing them to fatigue over time.

Just as 92 SE-R 02 SE said, the SR's go to 8000 all day long and they have a longer stroke than the VQ35. The Integra GSR and Honda S2000 motors also have a longer stroke and think about what they rev to.
Please...please prove it's possible.

Also, how many people on this board have over reved their VQ35's past 9000 rpms because of an accidental downshift? Several including myself. And ALL have motors have survived despite the fact that the input shaft bearings on the 6 speed trannies did not.
I wonder if that helped contribute to its early grave.

The new BMW M3 motors ain't got **** on the VQ35 as far as rev capabilities. They bend rods and come apart shortly after 8400. The VQ35 stays together well beyond that. Although I am not saying it is wise to rev a stock one that high without other needed mods.
Only 8400!?!?!?
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Oh he emailed me back. I got some generic retarded answer about damaging my motor and "We won't be held resonsible "


I hope this doesn't turn out to be another JWT.

If I want to rev my motor to 10,000 RPMs and blow it the **** up why should anyone else care? It's my money and my motor.
Yup, lots of SR guys *****ed at JWT . I totally agree with you, your car, your $$$. I dont get it...
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Oh he emailed me back. I got some generic retarded answer about damaging my motor and "We won't be held resonsible "


I hope this doesn't turn out to be another JWT.

If I want to rev my motor to 10,000 RPMs and blow it the **** up why should anyone else care? It's my money and my motor.
EXACTLY what I said about JWT.

The REAL reason is that they must extend the fuel/timing maps, which probably isn't that easy to do in the limited space they have to work with. Otherwise, the ECU would probably just maintain the last known value.
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Like I said, when I see the dyno with A/F ratio graph, I'll believe it.
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Like I said, when I see the dyno with A/F ratio graph, I'll believe it.
Believe what? That the programs work and make power or that the motor can rev that high? There is no logical reason to rev one that high without doing the mods to make use of it.
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Also, i am a willing donor for a 2k3 auto

ps: sorry to ***** the thread guys
Are you going to contact Technosquare to be the 03 auto donor?

I was thinking about "talking" a friend into sending his in but if you're going to do it I won't ask him.
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Believe what? That the programs work and make power or that the motor can rev that high? There is no logical reason to rev one that high without doing the mods to make use of it.
Did you already get the motor replaced? How did that process go? Is the NOS hooked up also? Sorry for all the questions, but have not seen an update lately.
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Believe what? That the programs work and make power or that the motor can rev that high? There is no logical reason to rev one that high without doing the mods to make use of it.
That TS can raise the limiter PERIOD.
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Renntech is the same quality as AMG. Pops' car has Renntech parts and the kick ***
Yep. My bro and I co-own a built RENNTech SLK 230. He paid for the car, and I handed them a blank check and said do your worst. That car is no joke...

Sad part is, he's selling it to buy an SUV or 4 door pickup. Oh well, on to the next project, I guess...



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