'02+ Maxima ECU Cracked!!!
Not to flame, but do you HONESTLY believe that's how it works?
Don't go quoting the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act on me either, because we all know by now it doesn't mean jack ****.
I'd pay $20 for you to video your service managers' face when you tell him that.
Don't go quoting the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act on me either, because we all know by now it doesn't mean jack ****.
I'd pay $20 for you to video your service managers' face when you tell him that.
Originally Posted by GreekMaxima
I dont want to void my engine warranty... void just exhaust system but not the engine... and i think the maxima engine is very strong the only thing that i care is my tranny warranty... 
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Not to flame, but do you HONESTLY believe that's how it works?
Don't go quoting the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act on me either, because we all know by now it doesn't mean jack ****.
I'd pay $20 for you to video your service managers' face when you tell him that.
Don't go quoting the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act on me either, because we all know by now it doesn't mean jack ****.
I'd pay $20 for you to video your service managers' face when you tell him that.
I would have paid $50 to see that one. 
Originally Posted by SR20DEN
I wonder if the look would be similar to the look i got when i said "fine I'll just go geta salvage motor and drop it in".
I can ship my ECU out as early as monday....anyone??? I want my ECU! 
Originally Posted by ripper
Has anybody noticed that the 5th gen 6spd ECU is now listed as available on the Technosquare website? A better question might be...Is anyone pulling out there ECU for shipping tonight?
Originally Posted by Chebosto
Originally Posted by Chebosto
was that dynojet run a 02 6 spd maxima? Also was the blue bar with the exhaust, and intake, and the red bar with the addition of the ecu?
Does anyone know if they changed the VIAS switchover? They don't explicitly mention it in the description, but I thought it was mentioned here that they were going to alter the switch point, but I can't find it at the moment.
...I will need that gone for the track running 22" slicks
Originally Posted by Y2K2Driver
Does anyone know if they changed the VIAS switchover? They don't explicitly mention it in the description, but I thought it was mentioned here that they were going to alter the switch point, but I can't find it at the moment.
I think somewhere in this thread it's mentioned that the switch over is 200 rpm sooner.
Here's the post that mentioned the switchover. No specific rpm point is indicated.
Originally Posted by Chebosto
Is the timing change similar to org members having their timing bumped with the consult II?
the consult II is limited in the amount of timing change, as well as where the timing changes can occur… the ECU reflash can alter the variable timing change-over, and yes you will hit VTC on the dyno.
Is the dip at approx. 3800 on the dyno power curve due to vtc switchover, and if so, can this dip be moved to different points on the power curve via ecu programming? If it can be moved via ecu programming, what would seem to be the best point on the power curve to move it to?
yes. Dip will/can be changed. It will be moved lower as to take advantage of the power of the VQ.. so it engages a little bit sooner.
What kind of an increase in mpg are we talking?
typically I saw ~2 mpg increase above 3k rpm driving (when the car is out of close loop) but you will not see any gains if you’re heavy on the throttle all the time testing it. its more of a gain when you drive ‘normally’
If and when you folks do aquire a auto ecu, could you please let us know if the shift characteristics can be altered, e.g. higher rpm shift points, harder shifts, manual shifting, etc.
shift points are not altered. That is on the tranny control unit… although it will raise the rev limiter. So when you are manually shifting you can maintain gear longer.
If an owner wants an upgrade due to a mod, what would be the cost of that upgrade?
if you want custom tuning, that will cost more.. but typically the ECU reflash will work with most NA modifications (headers, test pipes, catback, intake)… unless you are adding an extremely large amount of more air into the system, then the ECU will probably have to be reprogrammed…
You sure this won't show up on a Consult II?
the code itself is not digitally tagged.
I'd also be curious to see what kind of results we could expect to see on a fully modded N/A car. If the car has an intake, headers (which aren't shipped yet), Y/B pipes, CAT, muffler, UDP, advanced timing (which I'm assuming that the ECU upgrade would override that mod), and some sort of air/fuel management, what would the gains be then. Alot of people know that ECU mods can help a partially stock or stock vehicle, but to see the gains on a fully modded N/A car would also be cool.
on a fully Modified maxima, I would except a fully NA modded car would be quite high… ~20-25 fwhp.. but im not ‘in the loop’ any more with Maxima motors.
but I would assume you could benefit from your NA mods significantly with a tuned ECU program..
i am expecting Technosquare to release the full version modified ECU this week-- they are building the webpage with FAQs, Dyno numbers, and install/deinstall instructions....
updates soon!
--Cheston
the consult II is limited in the amount of timing change, as well as where the timing changes can occur… the ECU reflash can alter the variable timing change-over, and yes you will hit VTC on the dyno.
Is the dip at approx. 3800 on the dyno power curve due to vtc switchover, and if so, can this dip be moved to different points on the power curve via ecu programming? If it can be moved via ecu programming, what would seem to be the best point on the power curve to move it to?
yes. Dip will/can be changed. It will be moved lower as to take advantage of the power of the VQ.. so it engages a little bit sooner.
What kind of an increase in mpg are we talking?
typically I saw ~2 mpg increase above 3k rpm driving (when the car is out of close loop) but you will not see any gains if you’re heavy on the throttle all the time testing it.
its more of a gain when you drive ‘normally’If and when you folks do aquire a auto ecu, could you please let us know if the shift characteristics can be altered, e.g. higher rpm shift points, harder shifts, manual shifting, etc.
shift points are not altered. That is on the tranny control unit… although it will raise the rev limiter. So when you are manually shifting you can maintain gear longer.
If an owner wants an upgrade due to a mod, what would be the cost of that upgrade?
if you want custom tuning, that will cost more.. but typically the ECU reflash will work with most NA modifications (headers, test pipes, catback, intake)… unless you are adding an extremely large amount of more air into the system, then the ECU will probably have to be reprogrammed…
You sure this won't show up on a Consult II?
the code itself is not digitally tagged.
I'd also be curious to see what kind of results we could expect to see on a fully modded N/A car. If the car has an intake, headers (which aren't shipped yet), Y/B pipes, CAT, muffler, UDP, advanced timing (which I'm assuming that the ECU upgrade would override that mod), and some sort of air/fuel management, what would the gains be then. Alot of people know that ECU mods can help a partially stock or stock vehicle, but to see the gains on a fully modded N/A car would also be cool.
on a fully Modified maxima, I would except a fully NA modded car would be quite high… ~20-25 fwhp.. but im not ‘in the loop’ any more with Maxima motors.
but I would assume you could benefit from your NA mods significantly with a tuned ECU program..i am expecting Technosquare to release the full version modified ECU this week-- they are building the webpage with FAQs, Dyno numbers, and install/deinstall instructions....
updates soon!
--Cheston
I'll be ready to purchase once a 2003 6spd ECU is available.
No one!!!!!!
Has ANYBODY sent theirs in? TS isn't going to give us 3.0L boys the time of day if you guys don't buy some FRIGGEN ECUs.
Come on....what's the hold up?
Fock rent a fuking Geo Metro for 3-days...come on guys.
Has ANYBODY sent theirs in? TS isn't going to give us 3.0L boys the time of day if you guys don't buy some FRIGGEN ECUs.
Come on....what's the hold up?
Fock rent a fuking Geo Metro for 3-days...come on guys.
It's chrome alright...
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,999
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
No one!!!!!!
Has ANYBODY sent theirs in? TS isn't going to give us 3.0L boys the time of day if you guys don't buy some FRIGGEN ECUs.
Come on....what's the hold up?
Fock rent a fuking Geo Metro for 3-days...come on guys.
Has ANYBODY sent theirs in? TS isn't going to give us 3.0L boys the time of day if you guys don't buy some FRIGGEN ECUs.
Come on....what's the hold up?
Fock rent a fuking Geo Metro for 3-days...come on guys.
Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
how about "we're still waiting for a real person (not TS) to dyno it" and personally I want to get the cattman y-pipe first, then this ECU. If the ECU can be tuned to a y-pipe then I should get it last, right??
actually, tha'ts exaclty what i'm waiting for. the ypipe came in today. if install it tonite, ride it, then pull the ecu off, i can have it shipped out tomorow afternoon, arrives thursday, i get it back friday, and test both ypipe and ecu over the weekend. the problem with all this....NO DYNO'S. so waht do you want, no dyno's and butt feelings or do you want dyno's. i wanted to dyno the cattman y this weekend while installing it.
gimme your options, cause i can have this ecu out tonite.
Who's going to go first though? While you guys are all gun shy waiting for someone ELSE to buy it, TS is going to get cold feet. They DEFINITELY aren't going to consider further ECUs or tuning options if they don't sell ECUs to recoupe what time they've invested.
Sometimes you just HAVE to try something inorder to know whether or not it's worth it or not. Somebodys got to go first.
Is there some SPECIFIC number that's going to make-it or break-it for you? Personally, I'd trust TS enough to *BLINDLY* try it, since it's going to work or TS is going to have to fix it since they wouldn't be in business for long if they get a bad reputation for producing junk. They have WAY too much riding on it. The extended redline and tighter A/F ratio is MORE then worth the $500 IMO. Peak gains mean NOTHING, it's all about more area under the curve, so don't be expecting some 25+whp gains at XXXXrpm.
Last, the ECU won't be tuned to the y-pipe UNLESS you drive to TS in Torrance, CA and have them dyno-tune your ride, which is going to cost MORE. The ECU A/F is set to 12.5:1 for a STOCK(somewhat debateable since their guinea pig had some mods) which is rich, so anymore NA mods is going to slightly lean it to produce more hp.
Sometimes you just HAVE to try something inorder to know whether or not it's worth it or not. Somebodys got to go first.
Is there some SPECIFIC number that's going to make-it or break-it for you? Personally, I'd trust TS enough to *BLINDLY* try it, since it's going to work or TS is going to have to fix it since they wouldn't be in business for long if they get a bad reputation for producing junk. They have WAY too much riding on it. The extended redline and tighter A/F ratio is MORE then worth the $500 IMO. Peak gains mean NOTHING, it's all about more area under the curve, so don't be expecting some 25+whp gains at XXXXrpm.
Last, the ECU won't be tuned to the y-pipe UNLESS you drive to TS in Torrance, CA and have them dyno-tune your ride, which is going to cost MORE. The ECU A/F is set to 12.5:1 for a STOCK(somewhat debateable since their guinea pig had some mods) which is rich, so anymore NA mods is going to slightly lean it to produce more hp.
Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
how about "we're still waiting for a real person (not TS) to dyno it" and personally I want to get the cattman y-pipe first, then this ECU. If the ECU can be tuned to a y-pipe then I should get it last, right??
I think you'd HELP this board more by dynoing the Cattman Y-pipe FIRST, then send off your ECU. If you intend to draw ANY conclusions from a dyno, you'll need to do the Y-pipe first, since we don't have a clue what it adds yet.
Someone else who doesn't have a Y-pipe needs to dyno the ECU and hopefully later someone dynos both.
Just my .02, which aint worth jack.
Someone else who doesn't have a Y-pipe needs to dyno the ECU and hopefully later someone dynos both.
Just my .02, which aint worth jack.
Originally Posted by PoLo
actually, tha'ts exaclty what i'm waiting for. the ypipe came in today. if install it tonite, ride it, then pull the ecu off, i can have it shipped out tomorow afternoon, arrives thursday, i get it back friday, and test both ypipe and ecu over the weekend. the problem with all this....NO DYNO'S. so waht do you want, no dyno's and butt feelings or do you want dyno's. i wanted to dyno the cattman y this weekend while installing it.
gimme your options, cause i can have this ecu out tonite.
gimme your options, cause i can have this ecu out tonite.
It's chrome alright...
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,999
I agree with everything you said, but I'm also waiting for the y-pipe... THEY said to get the other mods first so that's what I'm going to do. If they had a group deal that made it a little more tempting I'd have to start firing emails asking if they can "pre-tune" the ECU for a y-pipe I'm expecting in the future 
TS is "they"?
Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
I agree with everything you said, but I'm also waiting for the y-pipe... THEY said to get the other mods first so that's what I'm going to do. If they had a group deal that made it a little more tempting I'd have to start firing emails asking if they can "pre-tune" the ECU for a y-pipe I'm expecting in the future
Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
Yes. Earlier in this thread TS said you should install other performance mods first so the ECU can be tuned to the other mods.
Closest thing I could find is:
Originally Posted by Chebosto
If an owner wants an upgrade due to a mod, what would be the cost of that upgrade?
if you want custom tuning, that will cost more.. but typically the ECU reflash will work with most NA modifications (headers, test pipes, catback, intake)… unless you are adding an extremely large amount of more air into the system, then the ECU will probably have to be reprogrammed…
if you want custom tuning, that will cost more.. but typically the ECU reflash will work with most NA modifications (headers, test pipes, catback, intake)… unless you are adding an extremely large amount of more air into the system, then the ECU will probably have to be reprogrammed…
Which doesn't say that....
The A/F is leaned out to 12.5:1 all the way to redline, so ANY NA mods will just lean it out more. No need to have TS re-flash your ECU unless you go FI.
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Last, the ECU won't be tuned to the y-pipe UNLESS you drive to TS in Torrance, CA and have them dyno-tune your ride, which is going to cost MORE.
Originally Posted by maximilion
Very true. You can't tune a chip by simply telling the manufacturer that, "oh, I have an intake, exhaust and a y-pipe" and expect them to tune it specifcally to your specs. Each car is different and each part and brand is different. So, to truely tune an ECU to a specific cars boltons, I would think you would have to take the car there and put it on the dyno.
i talked to TS last week and discussed this customizing the ecu for mods. and yes, they did tell me to do the mods first, then get the ecu. i also asked them if they were going to offer upgrades, like maybe a better programming tree, in the future. they stated that what they have now is the best that the car can do, based ont he mods that are out. they already have programs ready for tuned cars, aka cams, intake, pipe, exhaust, etc... (yes, he did specifically say he had a tuned ecu for someone who had cams).
they also stated that if you were purchasing the ecu, there would be no extra charge if it were a customized ecu. your first purchase is whatever you choose it to be, stock, with intake, cams, etc.....
and for those that are curious, i asked about a "what if a car gets flashed at the dealer and loses everything"....the response was that if it was sent back showing that information was lost, they will gladly reflash it for you ($20 charge). also, for the scam artists out there, they can tell if the ecu that is sent back was previously done by them, so sending someone elses ecu claiming it's yours will not work.
so to answer, they say they do have programs ready for modded cars, and simply state what mods you have and they will program it as such.
ok, ask away or add to my thoughts...
While I somewhat agree...it still depends on what mods you're talking about. JWT has been VERY successful with cookie-cutter ECUs, ie you have what CR, cam, injector, MAF and *poof* here is your ECU. HOWEVER, these guys have been dynoing those specifice cars like 300Z, SR20s, etc.. for MANY many years. They've seen pretty much any type of mod on numerous cars on their own dyno, so they know what kind of program it requires. It's called EXPERIENCE. Although, you state TS has done cams, yada, yada for a 2K2+ Max in the what 2-weeks it's been available, I doubt it. Most likely they are talking about all the work they've done for a 350z NOT a Maxima. Although, they are similar, I wouldn't be the guinea pig to find out.
IF you are considering cams or FI, I would wait until someone with SIMILAR mods had TS dyno-tune them an ECU and then buy that upgrade. Otherwise, the gains you'd see NA, other then maybe cams, isn't going to be worth the drive over to Cali to have them tweak out a few hp.
IF you are considering cams or FI, I would wait until someone with SIMILAR mods had TS dyno-tune them an ECU and then buy that upgrade. Otherwise, the gains you'd see NA, other then maybe cams, isn't going to be worth the drive over to Cali to have them tweak out a few hp.
Originally Posted by PoLo
i will assume that by these past few posts, that you've based this information on the thread. doesn't say you're, wrong, but also doesn't say you're right.
i talked to TS last week and discussed this customizing the ecu for mods. and yes, they did tell me to do the mods first, then get the ecu. i also asked them if they were going to offer upgrades, like maybe a better programming tree, in the future. they stated that what they have now is the best that the car can do, based ont he mods that are out. they already have programs ready for tuned cars, aka cams, intake, pipe, exhaust, etc... (yes, he did specifically say he had a tuned ecu for someone who had cams).
they also stated that if you were purchasing the ecu, there would be no extra charge if it were a customized ecu. your first purchase is whatever you choose it to be, stock, with intake, cams, etc.....
and for those that are curious, i asked about a "what if a car gets flashed at the dealer and loses everything"....the response was that if it was sent back showing that information was lost, they will gladly reflash it for you ($20 charge). also, for the scam artists out there, they can tell if the ecu that is sent back was previously done by them, so sending someone elses ecu claiming it's yours will not work.
so to answer, they say they do have programs ready for modded cars, and simply state what mods you have and they will program it as such.
ok, ask away or add to my thoughts...
i talked to TS last week and discussed this customizing the ecu for mods. and yes, they did tell me to do the mods first, then get the ecu. i also asked them if they were going to offer upgrades, like maybe a better programming tree, in the future. they stated that what they have now is the best that the car can do, based ont he mods that are out. they already have programs ready for tuned cars, aka cams, intake, pipe, exhaust, etc... (yes, he did specifically say he had a tuned ecu for someone who had cams).
they also stated that if you were purchasing the ecu, there would be no extra charge if it were a customized ecu. your first purchase is whatever you choose it to be, stock, with intake, cams, etc.....
and for those that are curious, i asked about a "what if a car gets flashed at the dealer and loses everything"....the response was that if it was sent back showing that information was lost, they will gladly reflash it for you ($20 charge). also, for the scam artists out there, they can tell if the ecu that is sent back was previously done by them, so sending someone elses ecu claiming it's yours will not work.
so to answer, they say they do have programs ready for modded cars, and simply state what mods you have and they will program it as such.
ok, ask away or add to my thoughts...