2k S/C on a 2k2
11-07-2003, 09:46 AM
#1
2k S/C on a 2k2
I remember this being discussed in passing before but don't remember if it was ever done so in detail.
What exactly prevents the use of the 2k Stillen S/C on a 2k2? I'm assuming it's the piping but i'm not sure.
Is it impossible or does it just need some custom piping, belts and such?
Thanks.
What exactly prevents the use of the 2k Stillen S/C on a 2k2? I'm assuming it's the piping but i'm not sure.
Is it impossible or does it just need some custom piping, belts and such?
Thanks.
11-07-2003, 10:54 AM
#2
Piping difference would be a piece of cake.
I *THINK* the SC bracket to the front of the engine is the major issue.
IF I had a 2K2+ Max, I'd be knocking on ATI's door to make me one of their SC setups similar to the 350Z.
380whp@9psi for around $5K AND it looks OEM. No messing with oil supply/return lines either.
I *THINK* the SC bracket to the front of the engine is the major issue.
IF I had a 2K2+ Max, I'd be knocking on ATI's door to make me one of their SC setups similar to the 350Z.
380whp@9psi for around $5K AND it looks OEM. No messing with oil supply/return lines either.
11-07-2003, 04:53 PM
#7
the 3.5 engine is equipped with nissans version of the v tech and the cam protrudes out further on the side of the head preventing the s/c bracket to go on. I looked long and hard to figure out a way for myself with no luck. There might be some hope as to Stillen making a s/c similar to the 350z application. but I wouldnt hold your breath. They still won't mak an AE front lip spoiler for the 02=03 which everone wants.
11-07-2003, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jerome johnson
the 3.5 engine is equipped with nissans version of the v tech
CVTC is not Nissan's version of "VTEC" (a Honda system). It is a totally redesigned version of their own homegrown NVCS system which was out before Honda's VTEC system was. Nissan just didn't make a big stink about it like Honda did back in the 90's because they didn't think anybody would care. Honda did not invent variable valve timing. But don't tell the Honda guys that. The NVCS/CVTC systems are both setup to help more with low-end and mid-range since that's where 99% of your driving is. Honda's VTEC system is generally only setup to help at the very top-end, 1% of your driving. Totally different systems both in goals and in implementation.
Okay, I'm done.
Carry on. 
11-07-2003, 10:06 PM
#10
Originally Posted by SteVTEC
Sorry, I don't mean to go OT here but....
CVTC is not Nissan's version of "VTEC" (a Honda system). It is a totally redesigned version of their own homegrown NVCS system which was out before Honda's VTEC system was. Nissan just didn't make a big stink about it like Honda did back in the 90's because they didn't think anybody would care. Honda did not invent variable valve timing. But don't tell the Honda guys that. The NVCS/CVTC systems are both setup to help more with low-end and mid-range since that's where 99% of your driving is. Honda's VTEC system is generally only setup to help at the very top-end, 1% of your driving. Totally different systems both in goals and in implementation.
Okay, I'm done. Carry on.
CVTC is not Nissan's version of "VTEC" (a Honda system). It is a totally redesigned version of their own homegrown NVCS system which was out before Honda's VTEC system was. Nissan just didn't make a big stink about it like Honda did back in the 90's because they didn't think anybody would care. Honda did not invent variable valve timing. But don't tell the Honda guys that. The NVCS/CVTC systems are both setup to help more with low-end and mid-range since that's where 99% of your driving is. Honda's VTEC system is generally only setup to help at the very top-end, 1% of your driving. Totally different systems both in goals and in implementation.
Okay, I'm done.
Carry on. 
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11-07-2003, 10:06 PM
#11
Originally Posted by SteVTEC
Sorry, I don't mean to go OT here but....
CVTC is not Nissan's version of "VTEC" (a Honda system). It is a totally redesigned version of their own homegrown NVCS system which was out before Honda's VTEC system was. Nissan just didn't make a big stink about it like Honda did back in the 90's because they didn't think anybody would care. Honda did not invent variable valve timing. But don't tell the Honda guys that. The NVCS/CVTC systems are both setup to help more with low-end and mid-range since that's where 99% of your driving is. Honda's VTEC system is generally only setup to help at the very top-end, 1% of your driving. Totally different systems both in goals and in implementation.
Okay, I'm done. Carry on.
CVTC is not Nissan's version of "VTEC" (a Honda system). It is a totally redesigned version of their own homegrown NVCS system which was out before Honda's VTEC system was. Nissan just didn't make a big stink about it like Honda did back in the 90's because they didn't think anybody would care. Honda did not invent variable valve timing. But don't tell the Honda guys that. The NVCS/CVTC systems are both setup to help more with low-end and mid-range since that's where 99% of your driving is. Honda's VTEC system is generally only setup to help at the very top-end, 1% of your driving. Totally different systems both in goals and in implementation.
Okay, I'm done.
Carry on. 
11-08-2003, 11:41 AM
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I would be all over some sort of supercharger/turbo application. I would have gotten FI for my old 4th gen, but I didn't want the mods to be worth more than the car. Now that I have the 02, Im ready and willing.
11-08-2003, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
Sorry, I don't mean to go OT here but....
CVTC is not Nissan's version of "VTEC" (a Honda system). It is a totally redesigned version of their own homegrown NVCS system which was out before Honda's VTEC system was. Nissan just didn't make a big stink about it like Honda did back in the 90's because they didn't think anybody would care. Honda did not invent variable valve timing. But don't tell the Honda guys that. The NVCS/CVTC systems are both setup to help more with low-end and mid-range since that's where 99% of your driving is. Honda's VTEC system is generally only setup to help at the very top-end, 1% of your driving. Totally different systems both in goals and in implementation.
Okay, I'm done. Carry on.
CVTC is not Nissan's version of "VTEC" (a Honda system). It is a totally redesigned version of their own homegrown NVCS system which was out before Honda's VTEC system was. Nissan just didn't make a big stink about it like Honda did back in the 90's because they didn't think anybody would care. Honda did not invent variable valve timing. But don't tell the Honda guys that. The NVCS/CVTC systems are both setup to help more with low-end and mid-range since that's where 99% of your driving is. Honda's VTEC system is generally only setup to help at the very top-end, 1% of your driving. Totally different systems both in goals and in implementation.
Okay, I'm done.
Carry on. If nissan had this cvtc thing down pat before honda, exactly when did they because v-tec goes back to the mid to late eighties (i think 87 to be exact, in a civic believe it or not). Oh, and one more thing. Honda was investing in an university in the states for some research and it was a professor there (don't remember the university) that developed variable valve timing, but since it was Honda's money, it was their IDEA i suppose.
11-08-2003, 11:54 AM
#18
Originally Posted by BioMaxDDS
i remember several months ago, a company named "aqua something" was making one for us??
any updates?
any updates?
http://www.dreamworkes.com/about.ivnu
http://www.alpine-developments.us/
11-08-2003, 12:24 PM
#19
Originally Posted by 02MaximaSE
i have $5,000 set aside for S/C or turbo but im not sure thats enough for a custom job?
11-08-2003, 12:35 PM
#20
Originally Posted by 02MaximaSE
i have $5,000 set aside for S/C or turbo but im not sure thats enough for a custom job?
For me, the built 500 WHP tranny alone is going to cost $3K.
I've already purchase 8.5:1 pistons from SGP and rods from Pauter Machine (that's another $2200 right there). On top of that is the TS ECU for $500 + whatever I need for a custom program...
Then there is the exhaust and piping, which I figure to spend $1500~ish on (that's with a hookup I know/have)
Mind you, that's before machine work...before I've even decided on which turbo to run...
$5K is only half way...if even that.
11-08-2003, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sunnybwoy
If nissan had this cvtc thing down pat before honda, exactly when did they because v-tec goes back to the mid to late eighties (i think 87 to be exact, in a civic believe it or not).
Link1: http://asia.vtec.net/spfeature/vtecimpl/vtec1.html
Link2: http://www.leecao.com/honda/vtec/dohcvtec.html
Nissan's NVCS system dates back to 1986 and was used first in the VG30DE and I believe the RB20DE (Skyline) engines and by 1990 it was in many of their vehicles including the VH45DE (Q45) and a 1.6L 4-cyl but I'm not sure of the engine code or car. Honda was just starting to deploy VTEC while Nissan's NVCS was already widely deployed.
Link3: http://www.autoweb.com.au/start_90/s...wsarticle.html
Nissan produced Japan's first variable valve timing system in 1986 and, since then, Nissan Valve Timing Control System (NVCS) has been used in many production vehicle applications.
Originally Posted by sunnybwoy
Oh, and one more thing. Honda was investing in an university in the states for some research and it was a professor there (don't remember the university) that developed variable valve timing, but since it was Honda's money, it was their IDEA i suppose.
But anyhow, Nissan beat Honda by 3 years. 1986 vs 1989.
11-08-2003, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Steve = NERD!
And a damn SMART one at that!
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