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Old 11-08-2003, 08:42 AM
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I went to the drags on Sunday and for the first time I lost. I got beat by a
grand prix gtp-auto. i have a 03 se 6 speed with limited slip and a injen cold air. He said he had a cai and exhaust. He beat me by at least 3 cars. Are
these cars that fast or is he hiding something? Cars-trucks I've raced and won-ford harley davidson, acura integra, honda prelude, acura rsx, ford sho, dodge durango, ford mustang gt, monte carlo ss and many others to come.
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I had a GTP in 99 and I can tell u, $ for $, my maxima would murderize it.....I am guessing you aren't too skilled at 6 speed shifting
 
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With little money those cars can get into fbody LS1 range (13.2-13.8 1/4mi). The main mod they need to get is a different pulley for the supercharger and they start blowing maximas away like his did to yours. Most likely he "forgot" to mention his pulley. You need to post your times to give us a good idea of what happened. It could be exactly as QBsFinestVQ said.
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Originally Posted by maxy03
I went to the drags on Sunday and for the first time I lost. I got beat by a
grand prix gtp-auto. i have a 03 se 6 speed with limited slip and a injen cold air. He said he had a cai and exhaust. He beat me by at least 3 cars. Are
these cars that fast or is he hiding something? Cars-trucks I've raced and won-ford harley davidson, acura integra, honda prelude, acura rsx, ford sho, dodge durango, ford mustang gt, monte carlo ss and many others to come.
Well, you didnt mention what year was it. GTPs are supercharged, and with a few mods they can be pretty fast.
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i think he had nos. I have no trouble using a 6 speed. I just think he lied to me-bastard.
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Old 11-08-2003, 08:51 AM
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Well, you didnt mention what year was it. GTPs are supercharged, and with a few mods they can be pretty fast.
His car was a 2000.
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Old 11-08-2003, 08:57 AM
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i think he had nos. I have no trouble using a 6 speed. I just think he lied to me-bastard.
prolly.....a stock GTP shoulda been n/p
 
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Those cars have tons of Torque with the supercharger. Did he smoke you on the 60'? or did he start pulling away after the 1/8th?

My bud (who has a 03 auto maxima) raced one of those new G-comp (? spelling ?) and got his as$ handed.
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Old 11-08-2003, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wantasupra3
Those cars have tons of Torque with the supercharger. Did he smoke you on the 60'? or did he start pulling away after the 1/8th?

My bud (who has a 03 auto maxima) raced one of those new G-comp (? spelling ?) and got his as$ handed.
He just took off the line and handed me the gun. His wheels didn't spin or nothing just took off QUICK. 1st gear we were close then he pulled away.
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Old 11-08-2003, 09:13 AM
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Think what you want to, but that GTP's are just as fast as the average 5th Gen 6 speed. The auto tranny they use allows them to be more consistent time after time, and one mistake with the 6 speed and it's all over...
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Old 11-08-2003, 09:34 AM
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I agree he must of had an underdrive pulley on the supercharger. They make all kinds of stuff for that car and it doesn't take much to play with the stock supercharger. I had a 94 grand prix that was slow ***** with the 3.1L engine in it. When I was looking to buy a new car I was torn between buy a gtp or the max. I choose the max because of the reliablity, quality, and the bling bling.
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Old 11-08-2003, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by maxy03
I went to the drags on Sunday and for the first time I lost. I got beat by a
grand prix gtp-auto. i have a 03 se 6 speed with limited slip and a injen cold air. He said he had a cai and exhaust. He beat me by at least 3 cars. Are
these cars that fast or is he hiding something? Cars-trucks I've raced and won-ford harley davidson, acura integra, honda prelude, acura rsx, ford sho, dodge durango, ford mustang gt, monte carlo ss and many others to come.

What were your times ??
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Old 11-08-2003, 06:17 PM
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I think you are really underestimating that car, its definatly fast. I honestly wouldn't be suprised if all he had was an intake and exhaust like he told you. Otherwise he would have had you by a lot more than 3 car lengths.
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Old 11-08-2003, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by maxy03
i think he had nos. I have no trouble using a 6 speed. I just think he lied to me-bastard.
ummm...bro? You seriously underestimated that car.

They ROUTINELY run 14.6 all stock, and a few factory freaks have even gotten low-14's. That is just as quick as an 02-03 6spd Maxima, and most stock times I've seen have been in the 14.5-14.7 range with only a few getting lower 14's.

He had some mods so he probably was running lower-14's. If he had a pulley + mods he could have ran 13's. If he was SPRAYING he would have left you so bad that you wouldn't have even been able to make out his plate by the end of the run.


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Old 11-08-2003, 08:39 PM
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i beat a 2000 gtp and the boneville 2002 supercharged. With 2002 auto max he was hiding stuff more then likly
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I have a friend with a 2000 and he changes out the pulley on the weekends (in about a hour) and runs low 13's high 12's.
Those cars are really fast with very little effort.
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Old 11-08-2003, 10:01 PM
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a stock gtp does 0-60 6.7 the specs are online also a modified one with a exhaust intake and pullley is doing these times 1/4 14.616 14.906 14.522 14.373 14.202 do they are not gonna get 12s thats for sure keep dreaming you need over 450 hp or so and thats pushing it unless he spent mad money into the engine id dream a geanie

also it doesnt make any sense would potiac make the gtp faster then a firebird um no
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Old 11-09-2003, 06:18 AM
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I just bought a 98 regal gs. I was wondering how it would do against my Max (keeping both cars). When I was test driving them back in 98 I thought they where the $h!t, but I drove a 92 taurus back then!
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Need to fine out what mods he has done. If he got you by over three lengths, he definitely didn't tell you everything. But in racing, everything goes...

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Old 11-09-2003, 09:54 AM
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You guys can keep underestimating the later model GTp's all you want...and you'll probably keep getting

Regardless of what you "think" they run, I've run enough over time to know exactly what they run stock.

Remember, in the comparison test for the new GTP-Comp G, they had the 3.5S Altima 5 speed run a 16.7 1/4 mile time... That pretty much sums up mag and internet racing.

They must have let their grandmothers run the Altima down the track...
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
You guys can keep underestimating the later model GTp's all you want...and you'll probably keep getting

Regardless of what you "think" they run, I've run enough over time to know exactly what they run stock.

Remember, in the comparison test for the new GTP-Comp G, they had the 3.5S Altima 5 speed run a 16.7 1/4 mile time... That pretty much sums up mag and internet racing.

They must have let their grandmothers run the Altima down the track...


In the case of the mags, they did not know about the little trick with the GTP that when you start with the shifter in "2", you get 2 psi more boost in 1st gear. That lets a "low-15" mag car suddenly run mid-14's with no mods whatsoever and still being completely stock. Take what you see in mags like a grain of salt. It may or may not be even remotely close to what the car is truly capable of.

And you don't need peak horsepower to run quick 1/4 miles times. You need TORQUE, and lots of it, and that's exactly what the GTP has.
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whoa! i have a question. he said he beat a h/d f-150. if it was a new one. I don't think he beat it. those things a just lightnings with 4 doors.
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Stock vs stock; auto vs auto GTP or Comp G? Just bring it!!!
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"And you don't need peak horsepower to run quick 1/4 miles times. You need TORQUE, and lots of it, and that's exactly what the GTP has. "

Ummm not quite that simple. Otherwise trucks would rule the 1/4 mile. But I know what you're tryin g to say- a flatter power band is always preferable-like the GTP has.
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You know, I wish we knew the times both cars ran.
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Old 11-09-2003, 03:43 PM
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I almost bout a 2002 GTP, but resale value, shoddy quality and over zealous sales people drove me away. That and the almost 30k out the door price they wanted for it...
 
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yeah...i dont think you beat a ford harley davidson...they are very fast.
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