So, I've been reading up a lot on the various intakes that are available for the Max and I think I'm going to get one soon.

I know I don't want a CAI. If I was going to get a CAI I would go with a true one and I don't want to bother with drilling holes.

I like the looks of the frankencar, but don't want to have to wait four months (I'd like to get it in a week).

Just curious, I've heard of things called pop chargers. What are they? Something was mentioned about them not losing as much low end torque?

Also, something that just bolts on to the end of the MAF housing would be very nice to have.

So, give me your thoughts and links (if you don't mind).

 

Besides the FC, Cattman.com makes an intake, Firmfabrications.com makes one which integrates the MAF sensor into it, Custommaxima.com sells Weapon R intakes etc. Most of these are similar w/the exception of the FF one b/c it integrates the MAFS.

 

a pop charger is essentially a frankencar minus the midpipe. you can check them out @ jimwolftechnologies.com and pick one up at courtesyparts.com. this will take out your stock air box and add an adapter to the maf tube. there is debate whether just a pop charger will lose low end because some swear by the midpipe and some prefer the stock resonator.

 

Ok, are there any Dyno's of 2k or 2k1 Max's with this stuff, that would be something else I'd be interested in.

 

for 00/01 only get a cold air intake...Injen or the Place Racing

if you have the 02/03 , you can get the firmfabrication or franknecar, because you wouldnt really loose as much low end torque as with the 00/01

 

Where are these dyno's that show a CAI loses the low end torque? Ive heard the talk wheres the proof?

 

GAB...basically outputs the same gains for almost no cost...but just looks ghetto thats all...

 

In installing a true CAI drilling the hole was no big deal. Something to consider being in Hotlanta and all.

 

I agree, with the right bit the hole isn't a big deal. Getting mine to fit and align with the tb was a different story though

 

Which is why it's the BEST one! And the FF also eliminates the little screen in the stock MAF tube...

Having tried the rest... this is the best. Absolutely NO power loss in extremely hot weather, unlike the Berk midpipe. Just buy the Firm Fabrications midpipe & a nice K&N 3" filter, cause the stock metal one is TRASH... much like the Weapon-R crappy foam filter.

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I looked at the FF but it appears that it's only for 2k2+ Max's. I'm currently thinking of biting the bullet and going with the place racing CAI. My only question is are there any issues with water intake? Also, I've notice on the stock intake that in the section right after the MAF housing there are three rubber tube connections.

One is large, the other is medium and the third is small. What are these connections and where do I hook up the medium and small connectors if I do go with the CAI? From the pictures I've seen there is no connector for these two connections.

 

I have the Stillen pop charger.. Looks and Sounds good to me!!

 

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WAI don't like sitting in hot weather traffic jams. And don't bother with frankenwaste. You might get your intake in 4 to 5 months.

With the weather as cold as it is lately, the Max is a beast to drive with the Injen. It pulls with so much power.

 

Actually STUDMAN has a thread where he actually Dynoes pretty much every intake... and the Injen did not fair well. Too bad he didn't have an FF intake on hand.

Matto357: doesn't the Place Racing require you to cut a hole in the side panel?

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it does require this but all it takes is the right bit and some touch up paint. i like mine and have never had problem with water. if you suck up water with it then you were going throu water that is about 1.5-2 feet and that my friend is far far far to deep for any sedan. at that point worry about your brakes and your exhaust as well as you engine.

 

Wait?? i was planning on getting my Injec CAI after the winter, will i nrrd to drill holes? how complex is it?

 

you will not need to drill with an injen. you only need the hole for place racing and the cattman CAI. general consensus is with a CAI, its longer piping so it not as good up top and a popcharger is obviously shorter but is exposed to underhood temps. so low end, its not as strong as CAI but the CAI cannot take as much advantage of the air moving once the car is.

 

I have the PR CAI, it sits in the wheel well surrounded by all the plastic, water wont get in there unless you are driving in floods up to the middle of your door... I have done the WAI with the JWT pop charger and it "felt" like it lost a lil power compared to the CAI which is why I went back to it.

 

Remember, the longer the intake, the more friction & turbulence you'll get... The Injen & Place CAIs are tooooo long for my liking.

If I could cut 3" off mine, and extend the MAF wires, I would do it! Almost like running a Filter directly off the Intake manifold. The shorter, the better. Like I said, with the design of the FF, heat is NOT an issue...

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I c So do thinkl that i should get it?, is it a good intake?

 

Go with injen, atlanta is always warm, (except for now, jesus its cold), and its a real nice sounding intake...as far as torque, you barely feel it, but then again either intake you get, your not gonna get a significant change at all unless you get a y-pipe, exhaust, etc....

 

Yeah, I think I may bite that bullet, just curious, if I ever have to take it back to the dealership for warrenty work, what they will say about the hole, cause I'll put the stock back in.

That's the biggest reason I'm not doing a GAB, cause I don't want to ruin any of the stock components, and I can't seem to get the other GAB's that just use coat hangers to hold tight for me.

 

Welp, I will be moving up to NY for two years for school, so warm Atlanta weather won't be that much of an issue for me in the future.

As far as the change I should expect, without the exhaust mods, I'm lookin to get 5 to 10 whp. Is that realistic?

 

Which Injen do you have? The CAI? Any issues with water on that one? Seems to sit a bit low from what I can see in Pics.

 

Probably more like 5hp with the Injen. Send a PM to STUDMAN for his Dyno comparison Thread, and you may change your mind about the Injen.

Here's a link to the Dyno scans, but it's hard to tell what is what. Ask him for the actual Thread he started.

http://maxima.theowensfamily.com/dyno.html

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I swear, the more i read about intakes the more i get confused on which one to actually buy. (I know this is org) but nobody agrees on one particular intake,

I mean its nice having a variety and all but it just seems like every intake has its disadvangtages.

 

i completely agre!!!

 

You are correct, that is confusing. WTF mate?

 

What about if an intake was Carb certified

Come on, wouldn't you want that