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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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I need a picture of a 02+ headlight showing the position of the HID bulb

I just got 02+ HID, i need a picture of the position of the HID bulb showing the housing also and the reflectors. I want to fit them inside my 97 headlights so i need to know how the reflection works in that housing, so i can figure out how to optimize the light output in my headlight housings.

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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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what does that mean, not familiar with 5th gen. forum, im from the 4th gen.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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Where did you get the 02 HIDs from?
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MAXecutive
I just got 02+ HID, i need a picture of the position of the HID bulb showing the housing also and the reflectors. I want to fit them inside my 97 headlights so i need to know how the reflection works in that housing, so i can figure out how to optimize the light output in my headlight housings.

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You mean that you have the bulbs and ballasts from a 02+? If you have the HID you should have the whole light assembly and not need a picture.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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Did you get them from ebay??
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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You have a 97 Max. What are you doing w/ 02 HIDs?
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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he just has the bulb, its on his cardomain site...btw your car is very nice. you have one of the few altezza setups i kinda like
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MAXecutive
I just got 02+ HID, i need a picture of the position of the HID bulb showing the housing also and the reflectors. I want to fit them inside my 97 headlights so i need to know how the reflection works in that housing, so i can figure out how to optimize the light output in my headlight housings.

Thanks
To be honest your not gonna get much output in light, more glare than anything. The reflector inside there isn't made for HID. It'd be better to buy projectors and retrofit them into your housings. This of course is just a recommendation.
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 06:16 AM
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To be honest your not gonna get much output in light, more glare than anything. The reflector inside there isn't made for HID. It'd be better to buy projectors and retrofit them into your housings. This of course is just a recommendation.
actually he'll get plenty of light to the ground, but the glare comes into play for ONCOMING drivers....

but then again as long as you aren't that person, who really cares anyway


what I think the others are referring to is the fact that he bought them stolen from ebay or another source-possibly stealing them himself
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 08:08 AM
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but the glare comes into play for ONCOMING drivers....

but then again as long as you aren't that person, who really cares anyway
Maybe the
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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Maybe the
Them and that person that f's up their car because they couldnt see for a bit.
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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he just has the bulb, its on his cardomain site...btw your car is very nice. you have one of the few altezza setups i kinda like

thanks i bought the HID setup, with the matsus-hita ballast, the philips d2r bulb and the igniter from this guy i know at a dealer for 200.
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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thanks i bought the HID setup, with the matsus-hita ballast, the philips d2r bulb and the igniter from this guy i know at a dealer for 200.
eh dude..no offense and if you are speaking the truth then fine but I find it fishy that you are from the bx and u just "happened" to buy the HID kit from the dealer off of a 2k2-2k3 maxima for $200

i smell theft here...
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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actually he'll get plenty of light to the ground, but the glare comes into play for ONCOMING drivers....

but then again as long as you aren't that person, who really cares anyway


what I think the others are referring to is the fact that he bought them stolen from ebay or another source-possibly stealing them himself

I just installed them, it was easy , all i needed was an extra peice of rubber o ring to make the fitment tight and prevent movement of the bulb, the light output is straight ahead, i only saw them in the day, and it seems like it glares at bit too high, but the light is so wonderful. If u look at a 97 headlight i positioned the ground part of the bulb horizontally on the outside of the car, away from the big, main reflectors. I have to drive with them tonight and see if i get flashed but the light output is so much better than stock, either way, its already installed, therefore im keeping them right where they are.
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SEdge
he just has the bulb, its on his cardomain site...btw your car is very nice. you have one of the few altezza setups i kinda like

not too familiar with all these terms, what does btw mean?

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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PAPA SMURF
eh dude..no offense and if you are speaking the truth then fine but I find it fishy that you are from the bx and u just "happened" to buy the HID kit from the dealer off of a 2k2-2k3 maxima for $200

i smell theft here...

the guy who works at the big potamkin dealer in manhattan got them for me. He had like 4 pairs for sale @ 200 a pair. It straight from the dealer, not someones ride.
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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the guy who works at the big potamkin dealer in manhattan got them for me. He had like 4 pairs for sale @ 200 a pair. It straight from the dealer, not someones ride.

once again I call for the simple fact that POTAMKIN has like the WORST BBB record in history relating to NY dealerships....

so why would a ripoff stealership practically "give away" HID for $200 a pair..


big con artists and just further illustrated my point of theft....I doubt you are getting any help here buddy
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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Them and that person that f's up their car because they couldnt see for a bit.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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Just because he works at a dealer, doesn't mean he's a crook.
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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200 a pop and he works at a dealer, sounds he's ripping his employer off.
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Originally Posted by PAPA SMURF
once again I call for the simple fact that POTAMKIN has like the WORST BBB record in history relating to NY dealerships....

so why would a ripoff stealership practically "give away" HID for $200 a pair..


big con artists and just further illustrated my point of theft....I doubt you are getting any help here buddy
The dealer probably "stole" his own lights and the insurance gave them new ones. I've seen some thefts at dealerships, and they could have easily been stolen by the dealer, then reported as theft.
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 02:21 PM
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Considering the burners EACH are about $100-$150, I highly doubt the "dealer" is selling these legit.

Let me guess, you didn't get a receipt? If you did, can you PLEASE give me the part numbers off it along with the phone number, so I can call him up and order a set myself?
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MAXecutive
I just installed them, it was easy , all i needed was an extra peice of rubber o ring to make the fitment tight and prevent movement of the bulb, the light output is straight ahead, i only saw them in the day, and it seems like it glares at bit too high, but the light is so wonderful. If u look at a 97 headlight i positioned the ground part of the bulb horizontally on the outside of the car, away from the big, main reflectors. I have to drive with them tonight and see if i get flashed but the light output is so much better than stock, either way, its already installed, therefore im keeping them right where they are.


Actually that ceramic rod that goes down the side of the capsule should be at the 6 o'clock postion when mounted. That it to absorb light so that it is not reflected upm into everyones eyes. But then again that is how it is supposed to sit in a HID reflector housing.
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PAPA SMURF
actually he'll get plenty of light to the ground, but the glare comes into play for ONCOMING drivers....

but then again as long as you aren't that person, who really cares anyway


what I think the others are referring to is the fact that he bought them stolen from ebay or another source-possibly stealing them himself

i think ppl like this ruin it for everyone else, hid's arent fun when aimed incorrectly,
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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Actually that ceramic rod that goes down the side of the capsule should be at the 6 o'clock postion when mounted. That it to absorb light so that it is not reflected upm into everyones eyes. But then again that is how it is supposed to sit in a HID reflector housing.

well thats the info i was looking for, in my 97 headlights, i positoned the rod at 3 o'clock for the driver side, and 9 o'clock for the passenger side, look on my webpage if you are unsure of the shape of my headlights. the light output is very good on the ground, and the beam goes straight out, when i pull up behind another car at a light, there whole trunk going down to the ground is pure white, I think in your HID housing, u get a more blue tint, i dont have much blue, it shows pure white, but still is bright as hell.
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Considering the burners EACH are about $100-$150, I highly doubt the "dealer" is selling these legit.

Let me guess, you didn't get a receipt? If you did, can you PLEASE give me the part numbers off it along with the phone number, so I can call him up and order a set myself?

of course it is not legit, he probably stole the lights off the shlef, then sells it for 200 and profits everything!
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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Those were not stolen off the shelf. They don't just sell the ballasts and bulbs without the housing, those were stolen off a car, Congratulations for supporting the black market of an item that has made some people go as far as selling their car in order not to have their headlights stolen.
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MAXecutive
well thats the info i was looking for, in my 97 headlights, i positoned the rod at 3 o'clock for the driver side, and 9 o'clock for the passenger side, look on my webpage if you are unsure of the shape of my headlights. the light output is very good on the ground, and the beam goes straight out, when i pull up behind another car at a light, there whole trunk going down to the ground is pure white, I think in your HID housing, u get a more blue tint, i dont have much blue, it shows pure white, but still is bright as hell.

Dude I only see fog lights on your web page . My headlights are the standard 4300K and are very white. My fogs are HID as well but they are 6500K which is going to be a little blue because they are a higher Kelvin. The color has nothing to do with the ceramic rod or the housing. Any time you put a D2R caplsule into a non HID reflector your going to have glare, especially if the ceramic rod is not at the 6 O'clock position. If you look at my headlights you'll notice that the light coming out is not a full circle. It's more like a half moon. That is because of the ceramic rod, no light hits the bottom of the reflector to be reflected up. Standard HID work on a verticle principle where as standard light work more horizontal. Most of these retro kits made have placed that ceramic rod in a place where it wrorks better in your housing. If you take a caplsule out of a 02 or 03, I don't think the alignment will be right. Try pulling you car up to a white door. If the whole door is lit up you have a bunch of stray beams because the light is not properly focused on the road. Here is my car, notice at the top where my headlights stop. See the definitive black line. Above that is pure black meaning no stray beams or glare. HIDs have a very sharp cutoff.

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[QUOTE=skalberti]Dude I only see fog lights on your web page . My headlights are the standard 4300K and are very white. My fogs are HID as well but they are 6500K which is going to be a little blue because they are a higher Kelvin. The color has nothing to do with the ceramic rod or the housing. Any time you put a D2R caplsule into a non HID reflector your going to have glare, especially if the ceramic rod is not at the 6 O'clock position. If you look at my headlights you'll notice that the light coming out is not a full circle. It's more like a half moon. That is because of the ceramic rod, no light hits the bottom of the reflector to be reflected up. Standard HID work on a verticle principle where as standard light work more horizontal. Most of these retro kits made have placed that ceramic rod in a place where it wrorks better in your housing. If you take a caplsule out of a 02 or 03, I don't think the alignment will be right. Try pulling you car up to a white door. If the whole door is lit up you have a bunch of stray beams because the light is not properly focused on the road. Here is my car, notice at the top where my headlights stop. See the definitive black line. Above that is pure black meaning no stray beams or glare. HIDs have a very sharp cutoff.

Old Jan 28, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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Dude I only see fog lights on your web page . My headlights are the standard 4300K and are very white. My fogs are HID as well but they are 6500K which is going to be a little blue because they are a higher Kelvin. The color has nothing to do with the ceramic rod or the housing. Any time you put a D2R caplsule into a non HID reflector your going to have glare, especially if the ceramic rod is not at the 6 O'clock position. If you look at my headlights you'll notice that the light coming out is not a full circle. It's more like a half moon. That is because of the ceramic rod, no light hits the bottom of the reflector to be reflected up. Standard HID work on a verticle principle where as standard light work more horizontal. Most of these retro kits made have placed that ceramic rod in a place where it wrorks better in your housing. If you take a caplsule out of a 02 or 03, I don't think the alignment will be right. Try pulling you car up to a white door. If the whole door is lit up you have a bunch of stray beams because the light is not properly focused on the road. Here is my car, notice at the top where my headlights stop. See the definitive black line. Above that is pure black meaning no stray beams or glare. HIDs have a very sharp cutoff.

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thanks ur a great help, those 5800K are just bulbs from ebay but they look great, there not HID, so waht i should do is find out how a 9004 conversion kit places their rod so i can follow and do the same.

Thanks alot
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