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Old 08-24-2004, 08:44 PM
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Where to start w/ exhaust mods?

Hi,
Ok I tried the search and I know what I like( I think )
But where do I start ? I just ordered a Berk/Apexi intake and was wondering where to start w/ the exhaust mods.
Y pipe, High Flow Cat, or Cat back.
I have a 2k Auto w' 60 k miles and am not sure how long I should expect to get out of my stock stuff.
I drive both higway and local. I want more sound than stock but not obnoxious at idol.

Any help or suggestions would be great thanks. Mike
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Get the y-pipe first. You will see the greatest performance gain out of all the exhaust components that can be modded. The high flow cat doesn't really give you much HP, maybe 1 or 2. The cat back is really more for sound than HP, you might get 3 or 4 HP out of the cat back at most.

Personally I'd save the money and only get the y-pipe, spend the rest of the money on other mods like suspension.
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Old 08-24-2004, 09:10 PM
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Thanks,
The Y pipe will make the Catback louder than the clips on most sites right?
So if I think that the Evo 2 is as loud as I'd want to go. It would be over the top w/ a Y pipe.
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Old 08-25-2004, 06:27 AM
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I was thinking of doing the same, but all i'm really interested in is a nicer sounding exaust. I was thinking of doing catman catback. Will this be too loud? Will I get a loud droning sound at highway cruising speed like I did with my mustang running offroad exaust to flow master mufflers? Man that was painful...

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Old 08-25-2004, 06:30 AM
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I got droning w/just a straight thru muffler installed. Once I got a catback, the whole RPM range got louder but the actual droning got better... too loud for my tastes though. Keep your stock muffler and do the y-pipe for a 2000 Max, you'll see the most gains there from what everyone says. Different story with the 2k2/3, but that doesnt apply to ya.
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I have the Cattman Y-pipe and B-pipe w/resonator and kept the stock muffler. Has a nice growl but not loud. With FC intake, I can definitely hear it when I stomp on it. Seems to have more mid range power, but only gained .1 sec at the track. I still love it.
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Old 08-25-2004, 08:51 AM
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Get the y-pipe first to check the sound. If you like it, stay as is, if you want more sound (louder) then get the cat-back. Beware with the cat-back you will get a droning sound. I don't care what anybody says, you will get the droning sound when cruising especially at highway speeds.
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It also depends on how much extra power you actually want. Headers are available also that can give you a nice little kick too.
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I have a 2k2, so what's the best option? Everyone's mentioned the Y-pipe for the 2k, but what about the 2k2?
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stupid Q. where does the b'pipe go???whats the best Y pipe??
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Best Ypipe is Cattman, 2nd best is StIllen. A b-pipe is the section after the Cat, and before the rear section exhaust. If you get a catback exhaust you dont have to worry about the B pipe!
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Originally Posted by Cevin
I have a 2k2, so what's the best option? Everyone's mentioned the Y-pipe for the 2k, but what about the 2k2?
Definitely the headers. They actually include a y-pipe.
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you should go to the MCC meet this sunday, if your local to Los Angeles... you'll be able to see & hear a bunch of different exhaust setups...
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Old 08-25-2004, 12:57 PM
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Start with a Y-Pipe. Best hp/$$$
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Arn't the headers strickly for racing? My max is an everyday driver.

I'm so glad I found this place.. thanks for the help all!
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Originally Posted by Cevin
Arn't the headers strickly for racing? My max is an everyday driver.

I'm so glad I found this place.. thanks for the help all!
No.

Headers are a PERFORMANCE part. As are aftermarket Y-Pipes. The headers will give you more horsepower than a Y-pipe would, but not a huge difference unless you're super/turbo charged.

Think of it this way, the Y-pipe gives you approx 10 horsepower more than stock and the headers give you approx 15 more than stock.

There's only a 5 hp difference between the Y-pipe and headers... which probably isn't enough to feel on the butt-dyno.

It's really up to you whether or not you want to pay approx $300-$400 more for the extra 5 hp...

However, for us hardcore folks, 5 hp is 5 hp more.
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Ok.. gotcha. I was just reading on CE that the catman headers are meant more for racing, so it drew a concern for me. I'm just an every day driver that likes to take it to the civics now and then .

Thanks for the info/knowledge. I've got the Y pipe on my list of things to get.
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Originally Posted by Cevin
Ok.. gotcha. I was just reading on CE that the catman headers are meant more for racing, so it drew a concern for me. I'm just an every day driver that likes to take it to the civics now and then .

Thanks for the info/knowledge. I've got the Y pipe on my list of things to get.
Me too... hence my org name...
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Me too... hence my org name...
lol - Yeah, I noticed that .
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Originally Posted by Cevin

I've got the Y pipe on my list of things to get.
Good choice.
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From what I remember, the Y-pipe on 02-03's gives very minimal gains. The difference in hp gains with the headers are much greater with the 5.5 gens, compared with previous years. Right?
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A few more questions

Thanks for everyones help.

I am hearing a droning exhaust sound from the front of the car while cruising around @ low idles. like between 1200 and 1700. It's at the worst around 1500
It doesn't matter what gear or if it's in neutral However it's much more noticable in 2nd @ 1500. As soon as I give it enough gas to break 2k it's gone.
It sounds like the exhaust is not even making it to the pipe.

Any thoughts or suggestions?


How can I check to se if the cat is functioning ? I am so paranoid now that I think I smell rotten eggs @ times when sitting in local traffic.



Thanks again , Mike
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Originally Posted by Triple8Sol
From what I remember, the Y-pipe on 02-03's gives very minimal gains. The difference in hp gains with the headers are much greater with the 5.5 gens, compared with previous years. Right?
I heard the samething also.
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Originally Posted by ICULookN
I heard the samething also.

Are you reffering to me? Or the guy you auto quoted?
If me did yours go away or can you still hear it. I am so obsessed w/ this noise that it's all I hear now.
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Old 08-26-2004, 06:25 PM
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Where to get Cattman Y pipe.

Ok .
So where is the best place to get the "Y" pipe

And everything else under there is pretty rusty as well. So what pipe combo works best ?
A little more growl but I drive about 50 miles highway round trip everyday.


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If I put a bigger resonator on my greddy will I lose any HP?
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Sorry to ask a stupid question, but what is a resonator?
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