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Old 09-08-2004, 08:21 PM
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Lighting resource - should be a sticky imo..

this site has some nice information about several lighting "mods" that people often do/ask about (including rewiring flashing side markers, rewiring/upgrading lighting harnesses, bulb colors, etc)...I think it would be a good thing to sticky if the mods agree.....

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/tech.html

check it out.....

btw, this company also sells a TON of different automotive bulbs including some that are hard to find like Narva Golds....
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note that some of the following articles on the site are very pertinent for many here on the org...:

The blue bulb controversy
They look cool but are they usefull? You might want to read this before you buy some.

Myths debunked
Here's an article on PIAA SuperWhite, Raybrig HyperWhite and Fet-Catz HyperBulb bulbs.

Bulb Descriptions and Ratings
Here is a listing of all known fog, head and driving bulb types, with specs and ratings.

HID lamps
Are HID ("Xenon") lamps better, and why "upgrading" to them may not be the best idea.

Why and how to upgrade your lighting circuit

Here is a description of how to set up the sidemarker wiring

Information about bulbs
Articles about specific types of bulbs.
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Old 09-08-2004, 08:29 PM
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one last post....this article is extremely interesting considering all the talk about light bulb colors, getting "whiter light", etc....many orgers will probably be surprised by what it says...

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...uperwhite.html
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indeed..surprising... so if we really want to improve the light seeing ability, HID is the way to go...glad i havn't wasted my money on PIAA H3 for my fog..hehehe thx irish
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I don't find this all that surprising. Anyone who used 1/4th of their brain and has tried out a set of bluish-tinted bulbs would know that they make it HARDER to see, not easier. Smaller-wavelength light (e.g. blue, indigo, etc.) is harder on the eyes than larger-wavelength light (red, yellow, etc.)
I'll take my Sylvania XtraVision yellowish-white bulbs over any blue-tinted bulb any day of the week.

Experiment: Sometime in the evening, turn out all the lights except your monitor...
Minimize all windows, and set the desktop background to a solid color. Try setting it to red (maximum intensity red, e.g. all red and no green/blue component), then shut off the monitor for 5 minutes and turn it back on. Note how much eyestrain you get.
Now set it to blue (max. intensity, i.e. no red or green, only blue component), and try the experiment again. In every instance, I find blue to be MUCH harder on the eyes than red. That same effect was corroborated by trying a set of bluish-tinted headlamp bulbs I bought from an org member almost a year ago. I could barely see.
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coz i havn't tried them yet....

Originally Posted by spirilis
I don't find this all that surprising. Anyone who used 1/4th of their brain and has tried out a set of bluish-tinted bulbs would know that they make it HARDER to see, not easier. Smaller-wavelength light (e.g. blue, indigo, etc.) is harder on the eyes than larger-wavelength light (red, yellow, etc.)
I'll take my Sylvania XtraVision yellowish-white bulbs over any blue-tinted bulb any day of the week.

Experiment: Sometime in the evening, turn out all the lights except your monitor...
Minimize all windows, and set the desktop background to a solid color. Try setting it to red (maximum intensity red, e.g. all red and no green/blue component), then shut off the monitor for 5 minutes and turn it back on. Note how much eyestrain you get.
Now set it to blue (max. intensity, i.e. no red or green, only blue component), and try the experiment again. In every instance, I find blue to be MUCH harder on the eyes than red. That same effect was corroborated by trying a set of bluish-tinted headlamp bulbs I bought from an org member almost a year ago. I could barely see.
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Originally Posted by Bl_asd
coz i havn't tried them yet....
Fair enough... just take this as advice--don't bother with bluish-tinted headlamps
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Good find Irish. Here's one I found.

http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/hl-filament-bulbs.htm

Apparently Phillips Vision Plus are the best alternative to HIDs, too bad I don't know where to get any.
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^^ Buy them from Autolamps-online. Don't look for them to be blue...but they will put more light on the road. I've been reading up on that site for a while now. I first was turned on to it by the guys on HIDforum.com. For those that care even a little about lighting I suggest you join that forum. Its a great resource. As for the info on that site...I wish more people fully understood what they were doing when they bought these cheapo bulbs. Even I am guilty of wanting that super colorful look...but there are better/safer ways of getting it other than cheap halogens.
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Huh, not bad... interesting that the Philips bulbs are listed as +50%, while XtraVision is +20%, and the USDM SilverStar is +20% as well (I used those; they do have a blue-tinted glass envelope, and while they looked whiter, I didn't notice much difference when one of them burned out prematurely and I switched back to XtraVision, which I've been running for 6 months or more).
SilverStar had a lot of hype behind it, but it sounds like the USDM version was castrated. The USDM version also ran at a higher wattage than stock, according to the package... probably why it burned out on me so quickly.

I might have to try these Philips bulbs sometime...
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I guess I know where to get some Vision Plus! Now I just have to wait for these Silverstars to burn out.
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I had an email discussion w/ Mr. Stern about a year ago and I can say he was very helpful. I haven't bought anything yet as I am still waiting for my bulbs to go too...
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I was on there to order Narva gold bulbs for my fogs and was just looking around and found that stuff.....
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who is "us"? and how much does "us" sell it for?
DS lighting sells the 55W Narva golds for $12 each....you can do better than that, i'll buy from you....
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Why would I sell a lower quality bulb?

We only sell good quality HIDs

We also sell that "55W Halogen" that Narva does - ours is $25, but you get 1 free replacement if they burn out. So, in a sense, yes, we can match that
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Originally Posted by umnitza
Why would I sell a lower quality bulb?

We only sell good quality HIDs

We also sell that "55W Halogen" that Narva does - ours is $25, but you get 1 free replacement if they burn out. So, in a sense, yes, we can match that
um, what the hell are you talking about? Who said lower quallity? And who was asking about HIDs?

Do you sell the 55W narva gold or not?
I don't want the Narva halogen, I want the H3 Gold for my fog lights.....
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umnitza,

Where on your site do you sell Narva Golds?
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We dont' sell Narva golds, we were referring to the fact that all lights are generall the same unless you go to HID.

SOrry if we weren't clear.
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ah ok.....I'm looking for deep yellow bulbs....I actually want to use them for fog where yellow is best.....
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I don't even have regular HIDs for my headlights.....HID fogs would be counterproductive.....
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