Phantom Grip LSD
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Phantom Grip LSD
I have seen around that there are lds's for our cars, but this one from Phantom Grip seems kinda cool. cheap, and dosent have any bad reviews that I can find (all reviews I have found were A+). I was going to get wheel\tires but if this works good it would save me alot of money. its $300 for the lsd, but information on lsd parts for maximas is difficult to find. Any body got this or know anything else about this product?
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Originally Posted by nyautostyle
lds? lsd? are we talking drugs or parts for our cars. not sure what your talking about
Hind - im curious about aftermarket LSDs as well. I think i remember reading bad things about phantom grip though. I think Quaife makes one that is better. Anyone here have an aftermarket diff?...speak up
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I bought one and it didnt fit my Maxima, tried to put one into a .org-ers Maxima too and it didn't fit. Said if it don't fit you need to grind down the spider gears to make it fit. I wasn't too sure bout grinding down any spider gears- as it will make them weaker and it can blow the diff apart. So I just rebuild my tranny without a PG LSD.
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Originally Posted by 2kGLE
....you must be high.
Hind - im curious about aftermarket LSDs as well. I think i remember reading bad things about phantom grip though. I think Quaife makes one that is better. Anyone here have an aftermarket diff?...speak up
Hind - im curious about aftermarket LSDs as well. I think i remember reading bad things about phantom grip though. I think Quaife makes one that is better. Anyone here have an aftermarket diff?...speak up
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Im also in the market to get a lsd, and this ones sounds alright the price isnt all to bad either, plus we maxima owners have HORRIBLE traction issues and wheel spin during take off making our 1/4 times in the high 14's STOCK. but if im not wrong with LSD we will have stronger and faster launches brining us into mid 14;s easily . STOCK .
#11
Of course there going to say it fits just fine. They are designed to fit a wide array of diffs. and fitment for the maxima is not good.
Lets put it this way, I bought one and I still have and open diff.
Lets put it this way, I bought one and I still have and open diff.
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in theory it pretty much 2 blocks in the diff to pushing against 2 spyder gears. that pressure will "lock" the wheels together.
all the reviews are good on it because it's just so simple that it will work. downside to this is the constant pressure of the 2 gears may cause the gears to wear faster or cause them to break. also over time the wear between the gears and blocks will increase and the tension on the 2 blocks will be reduced...that in turn will reduce the abillity to lock the wheels together in a hard launch.
if you have the option of having a real LSD then i would pass on the phantom grip...if you're out of choices then the PG might be something you can try.
all the reviews are good on it because it's just so simple that it will work. downside to this is the constant pressure of the 2 gears may cause the gears to wear faster or cause them to break. also over time the wear between the gears and blocks will increase and the tension on the 2 blocks will be reduced...that in turn will reduce the abillity to lock the wheels together in a hard launch.
if you have the option of having a real LSD then i would pass on the phantom grip...if you're out of choices then the PG might be something you can try.
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Thanks Ness. It is very simple. Call DaveB (888-254-6060) and ask if there are any available. The pantom grip is NOT WORTH IT. I guarantee it will mess up you tranny. Do not put a part in your transmission that is not meant to be there. Nissan made the tranny a certain way for a reason -don't f with that you are just asking for problems.
I don't want to see anybody mess up their tranny when a VERY affordable option exists.
Any reputable company who makes a LSD for an OEM tranny cannot afford to sell their part for $299. The R&D alone costs a fortune. That is why the Quaife costs a ton (I think $1100)
I don't want to see anybody mess up their tranny when a VERY affordable option exists.
Any reputable company who makes a LSD for an OEM tranny cannot afford to sell their part for $299. The R&D alone costs a fortune. That is why the Quaife costs a ton (I think $1100)
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I am not sure what is available for the autos. The LSD may be universal as far as auto/manual but I am not sure. IF you pm SR20 he could tell you. I am not sure what his entire screen name is. Can somebody post it?
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Originally Posted by mdloops
I am not sure what is available for the autos. The LSD may be universal as far as auto/manual but I am not sure. IF you pm SR20 he could tell you. I am not sure what his entire screen name is. Can somebody post it?
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Originally Posted by mdloops
Any reputable company who makes a LSD for an OEM tranny cannot afford to sell their part for $299. The R&D alone costs a fortune. That is why the Quaife costs a ton (I think $1100)
I was just looking on Cattmans site and the Quaife ATB diff is $1400. Thats a lot of freakin money but if I was gonna spend $500 for a oem diff I would rather thow down the extra cash and have a quaife diff with a lifetime warranty that includes racing use. Then again you could probably just swap for a six-speed w/hlsd for $1400. Just my .02
Hey Dave,
How much is the oem differential for a vlsd 5-speed?
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Originally Posted by mdloops
I am not sure what is available for the autos. The LSD may be universal as far as auto/manual but I am not sure. IF you pm SR20 he could tell you. I am not sure what his entire screen name is. Can somebody post it?
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Or go to a yard and get 1 if I knew now i would have got a 2001 locking I got mine for $650 and it cost $500 to put in. (take it back take it back
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#23
Phantom grip is not worth it. I would not put a PG on my lawnmower.
Quaife is no longer in production since Cattman cannot get enough people to buy it fast enough to make a profit (I am not blaming them but it sucks) and it is made in UK. The Dollar to pound ratio and all of that is making the price too high. There was an attempt at a group deal. There just wasn't enough interest seemingly. I would be very interested in a quality aftermarket LSD. The only other option is the 01 AE or i30 or Canadian maxima. All of those you have to replace the tranny but the 5th gen 5spds are supposedly a little stronger.
Quaife is no longer in production since Cattman cannot get enough people to buy it fast enough to make a profit (I am not blaming them but it sucks) and it is made in UK. The Dollar to pound ratio and all of that is making the price too high. There was an attempt at a group deal. There just wasn't enough interest seemingly. I would be very interested in a quality aftermarket LSD. The only other option is the 01 AE or i30 or Canadian maxima. All of those you have to replace the tranny but the 5th gen 5spds are supposedly a little stronger.
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Originally Posted by h2kSPiG
Quaife is no longer in production since Cattman cannot get enough people to buy it fast enough to make a profit (I am not blaming them but it sucks) and it is made in UK. The Dollar to pound ratio and all of that is making the price too high. There was an attempt at a group deal. There just wasn't enough interest seemingly. I would be very interested in a quality aftermarket LSD. The only other option is the 01 AE or i30 or Canadian maxima. All of those you have to replace the tranny but the 5th gen 5spds are supposedly a little stronger.
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Originally Posted by mdloops
Why go aftermarket when there is an OEM solution? The OEM one will hold up just fine as long as your car isn't a race car. Since this is a Maxima forum nobody applies
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hmmm. I forgot there are 5.0 gen guys on this thread too, sorry. I guess for us 5.5 genners since no FI is available there is no problem with stock. For you 3.0L guys it may be a different story. Also with the 5.5 gen guys we don;t need to change axels. I don't have much advise, sorry dude.
So do you have an auto? If so traditionally FI will basically destroy a lot more than a differential in an automatic.
So do you have an auto? If so traditionally FI will basically destroy a lot more than a differential in an automatic.
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For the 5spds, I don't have any good input. Don't the 6spds already come with LSDs? If not, the 6spd used in the 5.5 Maxima is the same (don't flame me... I've checked) as the 6spd used in the B15 SE-R Spec-V, and they come stock with a HLSD (not VLSD like the older B15 SE). There are PLENTY of wrecked Spec-Vs around.
Interestingly, the 6spd manual used in the Max and the Spec-V actually isn't a Nissan design. It was made by another Japanese company, and the same transmission is used in the 6spd Hyundai Tiburon V6.
Interestingly, the 6spd manual used in the Max and the Spec-V actually isn't a Nissan design. It was made by another Japanese company, and the same transmission is used in the 6spd Hyundai Tiburon V6.
#30
Originally Posted by mdloops
hmmm. I forgot there are 5.0 gen guys on this thread too, sorry. I guess for us 5.5 genners since no FI is available there is no problem with stock. For you 3.0L guys it may be a different story. Also with the 5.5 gen guys we don;t need to change axels. I don't have much advise, sorry dude.
So do you have an auto? If so traditionally FI will basically destroy a lot more than a differential in an automatic.
So do you have an auto? If so traditionally FI will basically destroy a lot more than a differential in an automatic.
I have a manual btw. Believe me I know auto max trannies suck, I blew mine without the help of an SC or turbo. The tranny im using is a VLSD 5spd out of a AE.
#31
Originally Posted by spiromax
For the 5spds, I don't have any good input. Don't the 6spds already come with LSDs? If not, the 6spd used in the 5.5 Maxima is the same (don't flame me... I've checked) as the 6spd used in the B15 SE-R Spec-V, and they come stock with a HLSD (not VLSD like the older B15 SE). There are PLENTY of wrecked Spec-Vs around.
Interestingly, the 6spd manual used in the Max and the Spec-V actually isn't a Nissan design. It was made by another Japanese company, and the same transmission is used in the 6spd Hyundai Tiburon V6.
Interestingly, the 6spd manual used in the Max and the Spec-V actually isn't a Nissan design. It was made by another Japanese company, and the same transmission is used in the 6spd Hyundai Tiburon V6.
#32
Originally Posted by 2kGLE
HLSD is an option on the 6spd maximas. The SE-R shares the same tranny as the 5.5 gens (minus the hlsd anyway)???
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