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Old 12-15-2004 | 06:04 AM
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how to install 02 sensors simulator?

i bought a 02 sensors simulator to slove the P0430 incident.I don't know how to install it, anyone know about the oxygen sensor wires? it has 2 white,1 grey and 1 black.Which one is signal,12+ and ground??
Old 12-15-2004 | 06:09 AM
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There was a thread recently by BlackbirdVQ that was a how-to.... try looking through the recent pages to see if you can find it... I think it might have the information you're looking for....
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one white is power, one white is heater, grey is ground and black is signal. you will have to test with a voltmeter to see which is power.
Old 12-15-2004 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sloppymax
one white is power, one white is heater, grey is ground and black is signal. you will have to test with a voltmeter to see which is power.
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This should work on all Cali spec 00-01 Maximas with the 4 02 sensors infront of the front valve cover, might also apply to the 02-03 Maximas.
www.o2simulator.com - when removing precats or main cat, the check engine light will come on with codes P0420 and P0430. This little 30 dollar box helps you keep your car check engine light free. Rear 02 sensors monitor if the cats work, they do not affect the long or short trim fuel- basically doesn't affect drivability or air to fuel ratio. ECU just looks for working cats, and this fools it into thinkin the cats are in place.

*White Wire on the Simulator goes with the white wire on the Oxygen sensor harness- this wire is the signal wire that the Simulator modifies- leave the wire from the 02 disconnected- let the simulator fool the ECU.
*Black wire goes with Black Wire- this is the Ground
*Pink wire on the simlulator goes with the Red and yellow wire on the vehicles harness.
*Red and Blue wire is unused by the simulator, nor is the Pink and Black on the other oxygen sensor- these are for the oxygen sensor heaters. Disconnecting these will throw a check engine light for Heater circuit maulfunction.

When I install these O2 simulators I connect them directly to the harness on the car, but BEFORE the oxygen sensor harness connectors. The wire colors change to 2 whites and one black and one gray after the connector- and they go right into the oxygen sensor like that. They are thinner gauge too which makes for a hard install. I have been asked mannny times by folks on the forum, which wires to tap into, so today while putting on my Blizzaks for the winter I just quickly wrote down the colors and wires so I can post it here. You will have 2 white wires on the DUAL version of the simulator- which I recomend you guys get when doing headers, since 2 cats will be eliminated and it will trip a check engine light for eighter one. Just cut the one white wire on the other oxygen sensor singal wire, and splice in the 2nd white O2 simulator wire to that oxygen sensor's wire harness. The Simulator takes power that runs into the oxygen sensor- which is called refference voltage. It modifies it into voltage that is read by the ECU as GOOD WORKING CAT, and thats how it all works. If still confused, look at your cars wires, tell me what you got and I will try to help ya out.
how come black told the white is signal? i am so confused
Old 12-15-2004 | 07:18 AM
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Maybe try IMing or PMing Blackbird? He's usually good with responses to my PMs....
Old 12-15-2004 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sloppymax
one white is power, one white is heater, grey is ground and black is signal. you will have to test with a voltmeter to see which is power.
this is not right.

according to BlackBIRDVQ and O2 simulator wiring diagram; White is signal, red/black is +12 and black is ground. if you ordered the unit with two white wires, which you should have, the second white wire is for the second O2 sensor's signal wire. you DO NOT disconnect the heater wires.

also, BlackBIRDVQ recommends connecting BEFORE the oxygen sensor harness connectors where the colors of the car's wiring is different from that AFTER the O2 harness connector. maybe this is where your confusion lies.

i would still PM BlackBIRDVQ because he knows the most about the specifics. maybe he can walk you through.
Old 12-15-2004 | 07:45 AM
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also, check the simulator site. they list wiring diagrams for your specific car and lots of typical Q&A.
Old 12-15-2004 | 08:40 AM
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I pm black already..!!! he said he is going to take some pictures for the details.. IF the white wire is the signal from the oxygen sensor harness...how can i find out which one is signal and which one is heater since it has 2 white wires??? that's why i am confusing.
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Originally Posted by killer924007
I pm black already..!!! he said he is going to take some pictures for the details..
Cool.... told ya he was good with responding to questions... even my dumb ones... hahaha...
Old 12-15-2004 | 09:16 AM
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I'm at home now, got the day off I will go outside and snap a picture of the wires, I don't bother making the install too clean cause I was experimenting with stuff there. I will make a clean install one day.....when I get around to it. I'm lazzy with working on my own car- took me 3 months to finally do my clutch, and it only takes like a hour to do that.
Old 12-15-2004 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PTNR
this is not right.

according to BlackBIRDVQ and O2 simulator wiring diagram; White is signal, red/black is +12 and black is ground. if you ordered the unit with two white wires, which you should have, the second white wire is for the second O2 sensor's signal wire. you DO NOT disconnect the heater wires.

also, BlackBIRDVQ recommends connecting BEFORE the oxygen sensor harness connectors where the colors of the car's wiring is different from that AFTER the O2 harness connector. maybe this is where your confusion lies.

i would still PM BlackBIRDVQ because he knows the most about the specifics. maybe he can walk you through.
what i quoted was the wiring breakdown for the oem o2 sensor. they send a breakdown of the simulator so why would someone ask for that? i have no confussion to speak of. i had the simulator installed and working correctly for a while.
Old 12-15-2004 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I'm at home now, got the day off I will go outside and snap a picture of the wires, I don't bother making the install too clean cause I was experimenting with stuff there. I will make a clean install one day.....when I get around to it. I'm lazzy with working on my own car- took me 3 months to finally do my clutch, and it only takes like a hour to do that.
So you have the day off, what are you going to do today? wheel bearings
Old 12-15-2004 | 09:34 AM
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Brandonn, I can't do any car work today........ its cold outside :P I gotta pick up my woman at 3:30PM, still gotta get around to finishing my kitchen tiles- and stoppn by my old work and picking up a PHAT few K dollar check from them. I'ma go take a picture of the wires now.
Old 12-15-2004 | 10:02 AM
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My ghetto wireing, notice the colored wires. Wires go into the harness before the 02 sensor connector. The wires there are thicker than the wires on the sensor itself- they are eassier to tap into than the slim wires.
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Originally Posted by sloppymax
what i quoted was the wiring breakdown for the oem o2 sensor. they send a breakdown of the simulator so why would someone ask for that? i have no confussion to speak of. i had the simulator installed and working correctly for a while.
i meant killer924007's confusion, not that you were confused.

i misread your post thinking it was the simulator's wires that you were describing. the only thing i was trying to convey is that the wire colors before the harness are different from those after the harness. depends where you decide to splice. you have to test the wires to find the correct wire where there are two white wires.

btw, where did you splice yours?
Old 12-15-2004 | 10:07 AM
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I spliced mine BEFORE the connectors, and I gave you guys some color codes as to what wires need to be spliced into using my technique. I'm going to solder my connections etc whenever I get around to it, and make it look very OEM. For now this does me good with no check engine lights for not having any cats. You can see white wire is cut and one is Curved back into the connector, and on the other connector the wire is just sticking out- this is the sigal wire that needs to be left cut, cause the Simulator sends signals to the ECU through that wire, and you can't have the 02 sensor sending signals along with the simulator to the ECU.
Old 12-15-2004 | 10:12 AM
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is it just me or does the picture not work? i have only the place marker.
Old 12-15-2004 | 10:21 AM
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www.cardomain.com/id/blackbirdvq its I belive on page 8 or 9 all the way on the bottom. Its a picture of the 02 simulator wires hooked up, ghetto style.
Old 12-15-2004 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sloppymax
one white is power, one white is heater, grey is ground and black is signal. you will have to test with a voltmeter to see which is power.

maybe i will go for the sensor follow slppymax...cus if i do somethings wrong or accident...that only cause the sensor wires....
u know how much for a voltmeter?
Old 12-15-2004 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PTNR
i meant killer924007's confusion, not that you were confused.

i misread your post thinking it was the simulator's wires that you were describing. the only thing i was trying to convey is that the wire colors before the harness are different from those after the harness. depends where you decide to splice. you have to test the wires to find the correct wire where there are two white wires.

btw, where did you splice yours?
gotcha. i did mine before the connectors mainly because i figured using the butt connectors after the connectors might interfere with the ecu reading.
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if your putting the o2 sim on the rear cat o2 read this thread......

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=472025
Old 05-11-2006 | 07:37 AM
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Check out the thread in "all motor"
-Completely Removing Secondary Oxygen Sensors – Guru’s step in..
Old 05-11-2006 | 09:58 AM
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is it possible to fully cut off the O2 sensors and just connect the simulator???
Old 05-11-2006 | 07:02 PM
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I tried to wire mine up and got a dang 0037 code, what did I do wrong ? Cant fig. it out and Ive looked everywhere. Thanx.
Old 05-13-2006 | 08:03 AM
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Would buying the o2 stimulators help with code p0430 and getting rid of the CEL for awhile?

I just need to pass inspection! Thanks.
Old 09-03-2006 | 02:33 PM
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Got rid of the P0430 on my "01
Old 09-03-2006 | 05:03 PM
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I used Puppetmaster's "How-to" to do my o2 simulator today. It seems to me that his is less confusing than BlackbirdVQ's. I am not hating, maybe it is just me...
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