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Old 02-24-2005 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
I TOTALLY appreciate you posting that list. And as I'm NOT up to the expediture of FI, I'm looking at a Cattman B-pipe with a straight pipe thereafter.

Puppet, I have a 4AT so forget the flywheel/clutch upgrade.

In theory, you could still upgrade the flywheel.

juice, thanks for posting this info for the masses. It's always good to know this stuff and have it handy as a reference...
Old 02-24-2005 | 11:53 AM
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I have been getting many emails and PM's asking me about what mods I have and where I have gotten them. So I have decided to put together a list of mods that someone should purchase if they want their car to perform similar to mine. This thread may be especially helpful in the future for newbies.

Intake
K&N Cone Filter ($45) and generic MAf Adapter Plate (~$10)
Link to Filter
The Maf Adapter can be found on ebay for under $10

Headers
I have the Hotshot Headers ($600)
Link to Hotshot Headers
The Cattman Headers will perform the just as well ($850)
Link to Cattman Headers

Custom Maxima Straight Pipe
Link to Straight Pipe ($100)

Catback Exhaust
I have a custom 2.5 inch Exhaust back to a Dynomax Superturbo Muffler to keep things quiet. Exhaust cost me $200 at a local Meineke and muffler was about $50. Any 2.5 inch catback system will be fine and they are all going to be similar in performance. Some popular options are Greddy, Frankencar or Cattman. (~500)

All the mods listed above are what I consider the essential mods. So as you can see for (~$1300 not including installation charges) one can add some decent power to their vehicle. With these mods I have listed above any 5.5 gen will be making similar power to mine. I am not guaranteeing that if anyone does as I have stated above they will run below 13 sec in the 1/4 mile. It takes practice and a good launch as well. And of course track conditions and environment will always be a factor.

Here is a list of other mods that I also have but are not needed to get the car into the high 13's.

Maximum Tuning VB Mod - ($400)
www.maximumtuning.net

TS Ecu - Has been dyno proven to show no gain on my vehicle with an automatic transmission. ($450)
www.technosquareinc.com

APEXI SAFC 2
This can be purchased from various vendors and ranges anywhere from $250-$400.

I would like to thank and give credit to Blubyu2k2 and SR20DEN as well. I think that together through trial and error and CA$H we were able to come up with a combination of mods that adds decent power to our cars.

If anyone has any input to add please do. And Mods feel free to make this a stickie.

Enjoy


I have all that crap and then some and my car doesn't even run.
Old 02-24-2005 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by look2me40
I have all that crap and then some and my car doesn't even run.

You still have the cams installed?
Old 02-24-2005 | 01:47 PM
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I like this thread you guys have going. It will probably take a bit more to get my 6th gen in the 13s because of the extra weight but I would like to do it. I find it Ironic that I ran a 14.3 stock with a freak 60 ft and since with mods I havent come close. Can blown front shocks drastically increase wheelspin because my car doesnt have traction like it use to. Figured since you guys have been around longer, some of you have probably gone through the blown front shock fase.
Old 02-24-2005 | 06:52 PM
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I am getting my car dyno-tuned this Monday. I am anxious to see what numbers I pull with the S-AFCII hooked up now. I will be hoping for mid 13's this Spring.
Old 02-24-2005 | 08:24 PM
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Just for the record, Bdigo(sp?) Has run 14.1-2 w/ no y-pipe or headers. But I agree, I think those are essential for running in the 13's.

With that as my only mod along with a coat hangar I put down 220hp. But then again, Neal proved that it's not all about hp, but it obviously plays a role.

There is only one more person putting down more power than Juice (auto) and he claims 235whp/235tq, I can't think of his name off hand though.

Blubyu put 223-228 if i remember correctly, correct me if I'm wrong, and ran similar times to juice N/A.


Glude, I know somewhere Stevtec had dynos of stock 04+ and they put down much better hp as per the rating from Nissan than our 5.5 gs did, and also keep in mind, AFAIK, (been a while since I've been online) The quickest 6g so far is an auto with a 14.1 w intake only.
Old 02-24-2005 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Just for the record, Bdigo(sp?) Has run 14.1-2 w/ no y-pipe or headers. But I agree, I think those are essential for running in the 13's.

With that as my only mod along with a coat hangar I put down 220hp. But then again, Neal proved that it's not all about hp, but it obviously plays a role.

There is only one more person putting down more power than Juice (auto) and he claims 235whp/235tq, I can't think of his name off hand though.

Blubyu put 223-228 if i remember correctly, correct me if I'm wrong, and ran similar times to juice N/A.


Glude, I know somewhere Stevtec had dynos of stock 04+ and they put down much better hp as per the rating from Nissan than our 5.5 gs did, and also keep in mind, AFAIK, (been a while since I've been online) The quickest 6g so far is an auto with a 14.1 w intake only.

SR20den's 5th Gen VQ35 is putting down 260+ FWHP, so I'd say he's putting out the most N/A hp at this time...
Old 02-24-2005 | 09:32 PM
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One thing Quicksilver, read the post thoroughly, If you look closely, I stated in paranethesis, the letters A U T O which is an equivalent spelling of the word auto, that equates to the english word auto, and also is a common slang terminology known to us the Maxima community as a term relating to a type of transmission, which SR20, does not have equipped in his Awsome machine.
Old 02-25-2005 | 04:56 AM
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The best I ever ran on street tires was before I had headers. I ran a 13.72@99.9 GAB/Y/B/UDP and gutted. The best I did on street tires after headers was 13.81@101 but it was at a crappier track. You will not run 13's on street tires without all the exhaust mods its just not happening in an Auto on street tires. You might have close to the same peak numbers but the area under the curve isnt strong enough to pull you down the track that fast. You guys get too hung up on peak numbers, the best I made ever was 236whp without the filter in my stock airbox but I ran the same times at the track with and without the filter so that little bit of peak difference didn't help at all. BTW a long time ago I ran a 13.9@97 with an intake/UDP only on slicks, that night I was running 14.3's on street tires. Jime is the fastest N/A Auto with me in a close 2nd 13.5 vs 13.6 FYI...


Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Just for the record, Bdigo(sp?) Has run 14.1-2 w/ no y-pipe or headers. But I agree, I think those are essential for running in the 13's.

With that as my only mod along with a coat hangar I put down 220hp. But then again, Neal proved that it's not all about hp, but it obviously plays a role.

There is only one more person putting down more power than Juice (auto) and he claims 235whp/235tq, I can't think of his name off hand though.

Blubyu put 223-228 if i remember correctly, correct me if I'm wrong, and ran similar times to juice N/A.


Glude, I know somewhere Stevtec had dynos of stock 04+ and they put down much better hp as per the rating from Nissan than our 5.5 gs did, and also keep in mind, AFAIK, (been a while since I've been online) The quickest 6g so far is an auto with a 14.1 w intake only.
Old 02-25-2005 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Just for the record, Bdigo(sp?) Has run 14.1-2 w/ no y-pipe or headers. But I agree, I think those are essential for running in the 13's.

With that as my only mod along with a coat hangar I put down 220hp. But then again, Neal proved that it's not all about hp, but it obviously plays a role.

There is only one more person putting down more power than Juice (auto) and he claims 235whp/235tq, I can't think of his name off hand though.

Blubyu put 223-228 if i remember correctly, correct me if I'm wrong, and ran similar times to juice N/A.


Glude, I know somewhere Stevtec had dynos of stock 04+ and they put down much better hp as per the rating from Nissan than our 5.5 gs did, and also keep in mind, AFAIK, (been a while since I've been online) The quickest 6g so far is an auto with a 14.1 w intake only.

I think you're talking about me (auto). I still haven't tracked my car yet. I'm hoping to go down with juice in March for a few runs. I'll probably have to let him drive my car to get some good times out of it though as I don't have any track experience.
Old 02-25-2005 | 07:30 AM
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I ran a 14.116@100.46 (2.190 60') with the coathangar GAB, OBX catback, MS UDP, and TS ECU, which when corrected for DA is in the high 13s@101.xx. Of course I dont consider it to count until its on my timeslip, but the track I normally go to is known for being crappy. With a slightly better 60' I would probably be in the 13s without headers/y-pipe.
Old 02-25-2005 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bgates1654
I ran a 14.116@100.46 (2.190 60') with the coathangar GAB, OBX catback, MS UDP, and TS ECU, which when corrected for DA is in the high 13s@101.xx. Of course I dont consider it to count until its on my timeslip, but the track I normally go to is known for being crappy. With a slightly better 60' I would probably be in the 13s without headers/y-pipe.
are you Auto or 6 speed?
Old 02-25-2005 | 08:05 AM
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I am guessing 6 speed with those kind of traps with thos mods.
Old 02-25-2005 | 08:10 AM
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Yeah 6spd.
Old 02-25-2005 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
One thing Quicksilver, read the post thoroughly, If you look closely, I stated in paranethesis, the letters A U T O which is an equivalent spelling of the word auto, that equates to the english word auto, and also is a common slang terminology known to us the Maxima community as a term relating to a type of transmission, which SR20, does not have equipped in his Awsome machine.

No need to be a total a$$hole, dude. But...if you want to get technical, I can get technical as well. What you should have stated was "Juice currently has the most powerful automatic 5.5th Gen"...or something along those lines, and then built in a reference in your sentence (or following sentence) linking Juice's and blubyu2k2's cars (saying they were both automatics). As you have it listed, Juice's car is the only automatic, technically speaking, of course. But please, carry on with you important ***** waving comparisons...

I don't know if Jime has a dyno of his car off the sauce, but he runs pretty good N/A times as well. IIRC, he has a best of 13.5 @ 102, with a sub 2 second 60' time. He does good work and runs great times with minimal setups...
Old 02-25-2005 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bgates1654
I ran a 14.116@100.46 (2.190 60') with the coathangar GAB, OBX catback, MS UDP, and TS ECU, which when corrected for DA is in the high 13s@101.xx. Of course I dont consider it to count until its on my timeslip, but the track I normally go to is known for being crappy. With a slightly better 60' I would probably be in the 13s without headers/y-pipe.
OK, excuse my 5th gen ignorance, but what is a coat hanger GAB. Or any GAB for that matter...

Excellent thread by the way,
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Old 02-25-2005 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Gears & Crosses
OK, excuse my 5th gen ignorance, but what is a coat hanger GAB. Or any GAB for that matter...

Excellent thread by the way,
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GAB - Part of the stock intake box is removed in order to allow more airflow into the stock air intake setup. The part that is removed is the part that holds the filter element. Sorry I dont have a link to a pic.

Coat hanger GAB - Since the part of the airbox that holds the filter element in is removed a coat hanger is used to hold the filter element in. Again...Sorry I dont have a link to a pic.
Old 02-25-2005 | 12:43 PM
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im gonna join you guys at the track, but maybe not this weekend, my workload is crushing me...

I definatly don't expect some amazing times my first time around, but i would like to do it right off the bat and go with drag radials and small rims.


Anyone have direct suggetions for me at under $600?
Old 02-25-2005 | 02:54 PM
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Nice info Juice

I had recently installed a universal K&N filter and then had problems with my sensors. Any suggestions on the problem?

I was also thinking of an Injen Cold Air; what should I add to help pass emissions?
Old 02-25-2005 | 11:26 PM
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In your experience do you believ that the $100 straight pipe really puts out 8-11 hp?
That seems like a good option. I have a friend that would then put a new pipe up to my 50 series flowmaster muffler. The mufflet alone claims 3-5 hp more. What are your thoughts on this?
Old 02-26-2005 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by njbferrari
I had recently installed a universal K&N filter and then had problems with my sensors. Any suggestions on the problem?

I was also thinking of an Injen Cold Air; what should I add to help pass emissions?
Couple replies in your other thread too...

Basically:

1. What exactly are the "problems" that you keep mentioning?

2. Nothing, the CAI won't affect emissions, as far as I know...
Old 02-26-2005 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by pdt447
In your experience do you believ that the $100 straight pipe really puts out 8-11 hp?
I doubt it'll be that much.... and it also depends on your other exhaust components... do ya have an aftermarket y-pipe, b-pipe, etc....

Originally Posted by pdt447
That seems like a good option. I have a friend that would then put a new pipe up to my 50 series flowmaster muffler. The mufflet alone claims 3-5 hp more. What are your thoughts on this?
A cat-back might give ya that, if even, but I don't think any muffler will give ya 3-5 whp, maybe a cat-back will though. But someone might have a different opinion on this....
Old 02-26-2005 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by njbferrari
Nice info Juice

I had recently installed a universal K&N filter and then had problems with my sensors. Any suggestions on the problem?

I was also thinking of an Injen Cold Air; what should I add to help pass emissions?
Not to be a d1ck, but once again, your mechanic is full of it regarding emmisions and a CAI and the filter was over-oiled. It may have been done by yourself, or it may have been done at K&N (heard of both). I've been running with a K&N for 40k before I put on the Injen and ran for an additional 30k. No problems with either!
Old 02-26-2005 | 07:57 AM
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::subscribing:: good info to know
Old 02-26-2005 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pdt447
In your experience do you believ that the $100 straight pipe really puts out 8-11 hp?
No it will not but when coupled with the headers and full exhaust its a nice simple mod.

njbferrari Nice info Juice

I had recently installed a universal K&N filter and then had problems with my sensors. Any suggestions on the problem?

I was also thinking of an Injen Cold Air; what should I add to help pass emissions?
Problems with what sensor?

Injen CAi will not effect emissions at all, nor will any other intake. And if you want my personal opinion follow my orginal post when purchasing an intake. The Injen is a waste of money...and you can use that money towards some other mods.
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