Tokicos are on... and my observations.
05-20-2001, 10:15 PM
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First off, BIG SHOUT OUT to Wustylez for helping me with the install. Second, we took some pics of his car. It looks DAMN nice. I want the stillen body kit now.
Anyway on to the tokicos. They are very blue and pretty. That's irrelevant I know but an observation. I am thinking of naming them after the smurfs.
They were easier to compress by hand than the stock struts and they rebounded quicker too. Is that the way they are supposed to be?
Ride with eibachs was definately less harsh than with the stock struts and I made my tires squealy on a turn (whee!).
Overall I'm prety satisfied.
Anyway on to the tokicos. They are very blue and pretty. That's irrelevant I know but an observation. I am thinking of naming them after the smurfs.
They were easier to compress by hand than the stock struts and they rebounded quicker too. Is that the way they are supposed to be?
Ride with eibachs was definately less harsh than with the stock struts and I made my tires squealy on a turn (whee!).
Overall I'm prety satisfied.
05-21-2001, 07:36 AM
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I think a stiffer suspension is NOT supposed to rebound faster. When I adjust the Koni's to a stiffer setting, you are restricting the flow of the oil, and that's why it takes longer to rebound (I think)
05-21-2001, 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by NickStam
I think a stiffer suspension is NOT supposed to rebound faster. When I adjust the Koni's to a stiffer setting, you are restricting the flow of the oil, and that's why it takes longer to rebound (I think)
I think a stiffer suspension is NOT supposed to rebound faster. When I adjust the Koni's to a stiffer setting, you are restricting the flow of the oil, and that's why it takes longer to rebound (I think)
05-21-2001, 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by NickStam
I think a stiffer suspension is NOT supposed to rebound faster. When I adjust the Koni's to a stiffer setting, you are restricting the flow of the oil, and that's why it takes longer to rebound (I think)
I think a stiffer suspension is NOT supposed to rebound faster. When I adjust the Koni's to a stiffer setting, you are restricting the flow of the oil, and that's why it takes longer to rebound (I think)
ye thats exactly how i imagined it...
05-21-2001, 09:37 AM
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My suspicion is that non-adjustable aftermarket struts are matched to the specs of GXE/GLE sturts. I know this is true (having checked the specs in the FSM and getting the specs from KYB) for 3rd gen KYB struts. This would mean that he only real SE replacements/high performance struts for Maximas is Koni.
05-21-2001, 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by brubenstein
My suspicion is that non-adjustable aftermarket struts are matched to the specs of GXE/GLE sturts. I know this is true (having checked the specs in the FSM and getting the specs from KYB) for 3rd gen KYB struts. This would mean that he only real SE replacements/high performance struts for Maximas is Koni.
My suspicion is that non-adjustable aftermarket struts are matched to the specs of GXE/GLE sturts. I know this is true (having checked the specs in the FSM and getting the specs from KYB) for 3rd gen KYB struts. This would mean that he only real SE replacements/high performance struts for Maximas is Koni.
so are u saying that i would be better off riding around on my stock SE struts with eibachs than getting tokikos? now i dunno what to do... should i just put the eibachs with SE struts? will this give me a better suspension setup than with the tokikos? hmmmm... i dunno what to do now... how long do the stock struts last with the eibachs on? cause then i could just drive around like this and when they die by then there might be more 5th gen struts to choose from or i will just get konis? Shall i stay away from tokikos??? im so confused
05-21-2001, 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by punkdork
First off, BIG SHOUT OUT to Wustylez for helping me with the install. Second, we took some pics of his car. It looks DAMN nice. I want the stillen body kit now.
Anyway on to the tokicos. They are very blue and pretty. That's irrelevant I know but an observation. I am thinking of naming them after the smurfs.
They were easier to compress by hand than the stock struts and they rebounded quicker too. Is that the way they are supposed to be?
Ride with eibachs was definately less harsh than with the stock struts and I made my tires squealy on a turn (whee!).
Overall I'm prety satisfied.
First off, BIG SHOUT OUT to Wustylez for helping me with the install. Second, we took some pics of his car. It looks DAMN nice. I want the stillen body kit now.
Anyway on to the tokicos. They are very blue and pretty. That's irrelevant I know but an observation. I am thinking of naming them after the smurfs.
They were easier to compress by hand than the stock struts and they rebounded quicker too. Is that the way they are supposed to be?
Ride with eibachs was definately less harsh than with the stock struts and I made my tires squealy on a turn (whee!).
Overall I'm prety satisfied.
Thanks punkdork for the invite on the install man.....
05-21-2001, 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by psing23
i hope someone gives me some advice...
i hope someone gives me some advice...
05-21-2001, 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
I don't know, but I wouldn't run eibachs on the stock struts very long or even at all. Just get the tokicos or konis and save the hassle of having to open up your suspension twice.
I don't know, but I wouldn't run eibachs on the stock struts very long or even at all. Just get the tokicos or konis and save the hassle of having to open up your suspension twice.
well but if the tokikos are worse than the stock struts then whats the point? and if they gonna die quick too then why not just use my stock struts and then when they die i will buy konis or something that will be good for a SE maxima...
05-21-2001, 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by psing23
well but if the tokikos are worse than the stock struts then whats the point? and if they gonna die quick too then why not just use my stock struts and then when they die i will buy konis or something that will be good for a SE maxima...
well but if the tokikos are worse than the stock struts then whats the point? and if they gonna die quick too then why not just use my stock struts and then when they die i will buy konis or something that will be good for a SE maxima...
I thought the tokico blues were better than the stock SE struts (which also happen to be tokicos I think).
05-21-2001, 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
I thought the tokico blues were better than the stock SE struts (which also happen to be tokicos I think).
I thought the tokico blues were better than the stock SE struts (which also happen to be tokicos I think).
i dunno a few posts back someone mentioned that the tokikos blues are a good replacement for the stock struts from GLE/GXE but not for SE thats why im asking... if they are better than the SE struts then i will change them
05-21-2001, 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
No way to tell unless you try them, right? I have had Eibachs/stock, Eibachs/Tokicos, and GC/Konis. The Toks on Eibachs will definitely help increase your ride quality.
No way to tell unless you try them, right? I have had Eibachs/stock, Eibachs/Tokicos, and GC/Konis. The Toks on Eibachs will definitely help increase your ride quality.
ride quality meaning that it will feel less sporty and less extreme? but will u also lose on performance? basically which is the better setup for performance? but i think i will put the tokikos on cause i dunno how many people riding in the car will like it harsh except me... hehe especially im wondering what the girls think u kno...
05-21-2001, 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by psing23
ride quality meaning that it will feel less sporty and less extreme? but will u also lose on performance? basically which is the better setup for performance? but i think i will put the tokikos on cause i dunno how many people riding in the car will like it harsh except me... hehe especially im wondering what the girls think u kno...
ride quality meaning that it will feel less sporty and less extreme? but will u also lose on performance? basically which is the better setup for performance? but i think i will put the tokikos on cause i dunno how many people riding in the car will like it harsh except me... hehe especially im wondering what the girls think u kno...
I'd take Toks with Eibachs over stockers anyday.
05-21-2001, 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
You'll feel less bumps and road imperfections while driving. No performance is loss.
I'd take Toks with Eibachs over stockers anyday.
You'll feel less bumps and road imperfections while driving. No performance is loss.
I'd take Toks with Eibachs over stockers anyday.
ok cool... so now i gotta wait for YJ to get back to me... hehe
05-21-2001, 12:38 PM
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Re: DAMMM
Originally posted by CIRCO
Thanks punkdork for the invite on the install man.....
Thanks punkdork for the invite on the install man.....
I'm sorry. You wanna be in on all the future banging on my car? I'd love to have you around.. maybe someone else can get dirty with me. Again man I'm really sorry, I'll shoot you an email next time. I should be doing a Y pipe pretty soon.
05-21-2001, 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by psing23
lol i think if i keep compressing them by hand my arms will get tired too and i wont be able to press it down as hard...
lol i think if i keep compressing them by hand my arms will get tired too and i wont be able to press it down as hard...
05-21-2001, 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
I know as the Koni's get compressed more and more, it'll become harder and harder (to push down). Or was that my imagination?
I know as the Koni's get compressed more and more, it'll become harder and harder (to push down). Or was that my imagination?
lol i think if i keep compressing them by hand my arms will get tired too and i wont be able to press it down as hard...
05-21-2001, 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by punkdork
I'll tell you this much.. the front eibachs make a nice makeshift seat while you're working on the car!
I'll tell you this much.. the front eibachs make a nice makeshift seat while you're working on the car!
Originally posted by psing23
lol i think if i keep compressing them by hand my arms will get tired too and i wont be able to press it down as hard...
lol i think if i keep compressing them by hand my arms will get tired too and i wont be able to press it down as hard...
05-21-2001, 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by PrinzII
Is it true that the Tokicos soften drastically over time? For some reason, that is the common issue on the 3rd Gens.
Is it true that the Tokicos soften drastically over time? For some reason, that is the common issue on the 3rd Gens.
05-22-2001, 06:03 PM
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Shock Dynamics
Having been a road racer for quite a while I can tell you the secret to a good maxima shock will be in the REBOUND damping. SE struts are a little better than GXE's in this respect, but they are both not enough. I you have ever crested an uphill off-camber turn in a max at speed, you will see what I mean. There is NO rebound damping, especially at the rear.(that's why the RSB feels so good, it adds a little control) This has always been the key to a good race shock. So the deal is, who's gonna make a good, external double adjustable srut? I'm waiting for the KYB AGX's.
05-22-2001, 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy
by the way, i was lookin at eibach springs the other day and it says 95+.. does that mean us 5th gens use 4th gen eibachs and konis????
by the way, i was lookin at eibach springs the other day and it says 95+.. does that mean us 5th gens use 4th gen eibachs and konis????
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