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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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Known 2K2 Issues

OK guys, I did a search and found a few threads, but nothing really useful. On friday I'm going to look at a 2k2, 6 spd, with 31.5K miles and I want to know if theres anything specific with that year I should take a look for. I know all the general stuff, but I've never had a 6spd, or a 3.5, so I just want to make sure I'm covering all my bases when I check the car out.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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I see you are in the Northeast. Keep in mind that HID theft is prevalent in this area and quickly spreading to other areas. I just want you to be aware of this as I was not when I purchased my car.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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Do a search since you donated ... read the TSB's in the stickys for the most helpful information ...
with TXT-1 as well.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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Thanks for the heads up. Were the HID's standard on the '02? From the pics I saw, it didnt look like there were HIDs on it, but they werent great pics.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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HID's standard in ALL A33B's.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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Yep H.I.D's are standard on all 02's and 03's even on the GXE model.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JaredMaxSE
OK guys, I did a search and found a few threads, but nothing really useful. On friday I'm going to look at a 2k2, 6 spd, with 31.5K miles and I want to know if theres anything specific with that year I should take a look for. I know all the general stuff, but I've never had a 6spd, or a 3.5, so I just want to make sure I'm covering all my bases when I check the car out.
MAFs are a big problem on the 2K2's, especially the ones with early build dates. Take a look at the MAF and see if it is the AM600 part number. If it is, you are in luck....if not, prepare to replace it soon.

I would also try and find out if all the ECM "updates" have been done which help solve "hesitation" problems and O2 sensor DTC problems.

Other common problems........Bose stereo left side speakers don't work when playing CDs, hood rattles (i.e. looks like it's about to fly off) at highway speeds, excessive wind noise from the back windows at highway speeds. There's also a couple of recalls you should confirm have been done if they apply to your VIN #.

These are all problems I have seen on my 2K2 so I speak from experience. Annoyances, but nothing major. I still like my car.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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Bose stereo left side speakers don't work when playing CDs, hood rattles (i.e. looks like it's about to fly off) at highway speeds, excessive wind noise from the back windows at highway speeds.
Same issues as my 2003..
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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The only issues I've had is that my Bose still sucks even after getting 2 head units replaced under warranty and wind noise (which can be easily fixed but I haven't bothered). No hood rattle or MAF issues yet.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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Did you fix the sunroof wind noise or the rear window deal?
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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Did you fix the sunroof wind noise or the rear window deal?
Not sure if you're talking to me or not but I fixed the rear window wind noise as per the TSB myself and it worked pretty good. I have never had a issue with sunroof wind noise being excessive.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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sone early build 02s have a camshaft actuator rattle on startup, replace failed part with updated actuator, mine doesnt have the problem.

theres the MAF issue...

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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BewstAdd1ct
sone early build 02s have a camshaft actuator rattle on startup, replace failed part with updated actuator, mine doesnt have the problem.
Can you elaborate on this Bewst? Is this the "cold start rattle" TSB that I've read about?

I just discovered this rattle recently and I am only 3K from being done my powertrain warranty so I need to get it fixed soon assuming it is covered under that warranty. I would just like to make sure I know what I'm talking about before I go to Nissan so I don't get the typical runaround.
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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Same issues as my 2003..
i have this same issue on my 03. how do you fix this? what needs to be replaced? thanks
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BigFly_2K2SE
MAFs are a big problem on the 2K2's, especially the ones with early build dates. Take a look at the MAF and see if it is the AM600 part number. If it is, you are in luck....if not, prepare to replace it soon.

I would also try and find out if all the ECM "updates" have been done which help solve "hesitation" problems and O2 sensor DTC problems.

Other common problems........Bose stereo left side speakers don't work when playing CDs, hood rattles (i.e. looks like it's about to fly off) at highway speeds, excessive wind noise from the back windows at highway speeds. There's also a couple of recalls you should confirm have been done if they apply to your VIN #.

These are all problems I have seen on my 2K2 so I speak from experience. Annoyances, but nothing major. I still like my car.
Yo i jus bought an 03 and sometimes it starts actin up with that hood rattle thing but...sometimes it does it when im jus stopped at a light also. It goes away when i put it in neutral but when it does happen it feels like the engine wants to jump out of there....idk wtf that is...suggestions????
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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The hood rattle he is talking about is only at high speeds from the wind resistance. The simplest solution to this is adjusting the rubber thingies on the right and left side of the hood for 5.5th Gens. This has not completely solved the problem, but it does reduce it. As far as hood rattle when you are in park, that sounds like a really rough idle.
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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[QUOTE=TXT-1]The hood rattle he is talking about is only at high speeds from the wind resistance. The simplest solution to this is adjusting the rubber thingies on the right and left side of the hood for 5.5th Gens. This has not completely solved the problem, but it does reduce it. As far as hood rattle when you are in park, that sounds like a really rough idle.[/

I wish that were the case but the problem it usually happens while im driving or stopped...it jus comes out of nowhere sometimes and i have no idea what it could be...from reading other threads only thing i can think of is bad coils...ne ideaz....???
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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[QUOTE=ShIft_uR FacE]
Originally Posted by TXT-1
The hood rattle he is talking about is only at high speeds from the wind resistance. The simplest solution to this is adjusting the rubber thingies on the right and left side of the hood for 5.5th Gens. This has not completely solved the problem, but it does reduce it. As far as hood rattle when you are in park, that sounds like a really rough idle.[/

I wish that were the case but the problem it usually happens while im driving or stopped...it jus comes out of nowhere sometimes and i have no idea what it could be...from reading other threads only thing i can think of is bad coils...ne ideaz....???
Timing chain maybe? http://maxima.theowensfamily.com/tsb/NTB03-060.pdf
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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i am very close to buying a used 2k2 with 60k miles but this thread is sort of scaring me..
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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PINGS!!!!! Other than that...I have a 2k3 and issues I had were, 4 blown MAF's, 2 bad TB's, a bad ECU...and did I mention that it pings?
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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PINGS!!!!! Other than that...I have a 2k3 and issues I had were, 4 blown MAF's, 2 bad TB's, a bad ECU...and did I mention that it pings?
Your car sucks .. n
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wope
i am very close to buying a used 2k2 with 60k miles but this thread is sort of scaring me..
Keep in mind this is a very small sample and not a true representation of all 2K2/2K3 Maxima owners. Granted some of the issues like hood flutter and the BOSE radio bug are more common than others, but I think overall, these cars are a great value for the performance and reliability that you get. Just make sure you do your homework before buying the car. Run a carfax, get it checked out by a trusted mechanic etc etc.

Like I mentioned earlier, the only major thing I would think about is the issue of HID theft. If you live in an area where this is a problem, think twice.
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by wope
i am very close to buying a used 2k2 with 60k miles but this thread is sort of scaring me..
Don't let these things scare you away.... these are not always common occurrences. You should ask for all the maintenence records of the car you're looking at though.
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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Granted, I've only had mine for 3 months, but I was able to goto the service Nissan dealership and have every maintance printed out.

So far with 54k miles my car has had the brakes replaced and new o2 sensors. Other than the regular oil and service intervals it has been pretty close to flawless!

As with any car, look for the absolute cleanest and pristine example you can find!
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BigFly_2K2SE
Can you elaborate on this Bewst? Is this the "cold start rattle" TSB that I've read about?

I just discovered this rattle recently and I am only 3K from being done my powertrain warranty so I need to get it fixed soon assuming it is covered under that warranty. I would just like to make sure I know what I'm talking about before I go to Nissan so I don't get the typical runaround.

Classification:
EC03-016

Reference
NTB03-060

Date:
June 18, 2003

2002 MAXIMA AND ALTIMA WITH VQ35 ENGINE; RATTLE NOISE WHEN STARTED COLD.

APPLIED VEHICLE(S):
2002 Altima (L31) with VQ35DE engine.
2002 Maxima (A33)

APPLIED VIN(S):
2002 Altima built before 1N4BL11D(*)3C 210299
2002 Maxima built before JN1DA31A(*)3T 438232 or
JN1DA31A(*)3T 524380

APPLIED DATE(S):
2002 Altima built before January 17, 2003
2002 Maxima built before November 20, 2002

APPLIED ENGINE:
VQ35DE

IF YOU CONFIRM:

The engine in an applied vehicle makes a rattle noise for about 1 second when started cold,

DETERMINE IF:

The noise is coming from the left or right side VTC (Valve Timing Control) sprocket.

ACTION:

Replace the VTC sprocket that is making noise.







PARTS INFORMATION







CLAIMS INFORMATION

IMPORTANT: The purpose of 'ACTION' is to give you a quick idea of the work you will be performing. You MUST closely follow the entire Service Procedure as it contains information that is essential to successfully completing this repair.

SERVICE PROCEDURE







1. Determine if the noise is coming from a VTC sprocket, and which one (left bank or right bank).

a. Do not start or run the engine for at least 4 hours (cold-soak).

^ Overnight "cold-soak" is preferred.


b. Have one person start the engine while a second person is near the front of the engine to listen for the noise.

^ Listen around the VTC sprocket areas.


NOTE: The incident noise will last for only about 1 second.

2. Replace the VTC sprocket that is making noise.

^ Refer to the appropriate Service Manual (ESM), section EM, for VTC sprocket replacement procedures.

^ A very small amount of noise from the new VTC sprocket during a cold start is considered normal and acceptable.
hope this helps.



and yea, shogun... your car is a lemon...






j/k


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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Yeah, what is this pinging you keep talking about?
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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mine doesnt ping or leak/burn oil
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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i serious wished my car was under the lemon law so I can get another car. Other than the pings...my car is finally running fine. Oil catch can on the way.
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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Thanks. That is the TSB I was thinking about.

Originally Posted by BewstAdd1ct
hope this helps.



and yea, shogun... your car is a lemon...






j/k


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