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Old 01-23-2006 | 07:33 PM
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Quoted because your pic isn't appearing on my screen...
Old 01-23-2006 | 07:36 PM
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Old 01-23-2006 | 08:46 PM
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will they clear the 02 gle 7 spokes?
Old 01-23-2006 | 08:55 PM
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for anyone that is concerned about ABS operation, ABS works on the relative speed of each wheel to one another. So you can even put on a smaller outside diameter wheel in the front/ back and it will compensate. That is why when you put a donut spare on any vehicle w/ ABS that wheel doesn't lock up or do funky **** when you brake regularly.
Old 01-24-2006 | 05:07 AM
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mmm I think I will get me some 6th gen rotors.
Old 01-24-2006 | 05:45 AM
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mmm I think I will get me some 6th gen rotors
Might want to get ahold of some calipers as well.
Old 01-24-2006 | 12:25 PM
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mmm I wanna get my hands on those z32 Calipers with the 2 piece rotors.

Those z32s fit behind the 17's on an '03 SE I hope
Old 01-24-2006 | 12:43 PM
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300zx calipers wont clear the oem 17s on a 5.5 gen. maybe only in yor dreams. like people have said the only thign that clears oem 5.5 gen 17s are the 6th gen calipers and rotors.
Old 01-24-2006 | 01:05 PM
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It was already asked....but no response. HAS anyone done the 6gen brake conversion with 7-spoke GLE 17" wheels?? Will they clear the bigger 6gen calipers?

Thanks!
Old 01-24-2006 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dansmax2003
It was already asked....but no response. HAS anyone done the 6gen brake conversion with 7-spoke GLE 17" wheels?? Will they clear the bigger 6gen calipers?

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Measure from the face of the rotor to the inside edge of the spokes of your wheel. Do you have about 2" of clearance? If so, they should fit.

I had 2", maybe a hair more. Someone on here with 02-03 SE wheels told me they had 1 and 7/8" clearance.

:::::THIS MEASUREMENT IS FOR PEOPLE WITH STOCK 02-03 rotors ONLY:::::

Obviously it would be different if you have different sized rotors.
Old 01-24-2006 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
11.68 vs 12.6
thank you, I stand corrected...I knew it was just right at an inch difference.


Question of my own though. What is it about 2 piece rotors that allows them to be so much lighter? Where do they lose weight?
Old 01-24-2006 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by nirvana4all
thank you, I stand corrected...I knew it was just right at an inch difference.


Question of my own though. What is it about 2 piece rotors that allows them to be so much lighter? Where do they lose weight?

The hats or hubs as you may know them are made from Aluminium instead of the same metal that the brakes are made from. This allows them to save a substantial amount of mass.
Old 01-24-2006 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nirvana4all
What is it about 2 piece rotors that allows them to be so much lighter? Where do they lose weight?
Less metal, as well as the metal being used in its place is lighter.

Al vs Fe


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Those z32s fit behind the 17's on an '03 SE I hope
Keep hoping
Old 01-24-2006 | 07:58 PM
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Do you need the 6th gen brake lines or the stock lines ok?
Old 01-24-2006 | 08:12 PM
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Old 01-24-2006 | 09:17 PM
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like NmexMAX said at the top DIRECT BOLT ON.. thanks for postin my pic. haha.. everything bolts up.. no new brake lines or anything.. order the calipers, rotors, and pads. bolt them up. bleed the brakes.. then your done.
Old 01-24-2006 | 10:10 PM
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Wouldn't just putting larger rotors up front screw with the car's ABS and alter brake bias? I know I've read a lot of negatives on installing larger rotors just in the front. :\
it would alter brake bias, and it WOULD mess with your ABS, only because as the brakes put more braking torque to the tires, the are more likely to lock up. putting on different size rotors in no way affects the ABS being more/less likely to engage. if you put a different size tire on one wheel than the others then yes because the abs sensor sees that wheel as spinning at a different speed than the other and will engage the abs if the computer decides that it needs to. the ABS sensor is not affected by the rotor at all.
Old 01-25-2006 | 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ICULookN
Do you need the 6th gen brake lines or the stock lines ok?
Stock lines are fine.
Old 01-26-2006 | 05:49 PM
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this is a great upgrade for the guys that have warped rotors on their 2k2-2k3 maximas. the only downside is the weight of the rotor.
Old 01-26-2006 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
this is a great upgrade for the guys that have warped rotors on their 2k2-2k3 maximas. the only downside is the weight of the rotor.
Perfect cliff notes for the thread.
Old 01-26-2006 | 06:43 PM
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hey nmex, arent your rotors on the wrong side of the car? i always thought that the slots were supposed to go the other way so that the pad forces air off the rotor, not make a pocket of air under the caliper. kinda like directional tread.
Old 01-26-2006 | 06:53 PM
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I went by BMW's and MB design.. I wont post the pic because it may throw off our little thread we have going.. but http://www.autoweb.com/content/share...cle_id_int/922
They do their job just fine, you think too much.
Old 01-26-2006 | 07:04 PM
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didnt see any pics that i could tell for sure, but ill take your word on it
Old 01-26-2006 | 07:09 PM
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so what about the most important part of the brake system...do you stop any quicker or do the brakes "bite" better with the 6th gen setup? Looks are great, but if I am putting money into brakes, I want an improvement in stopping distance since the uss ronald regan can stop quicker than our maxes and it only goes 43mph! i really think nissan dropped the ball in the braking dept on our cars...they forgot the 2nd part of the equation. an object in motion...NEEDS BREMBOS!
Old 01-26-2006 | 07:12 PM
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They stop much better than stock A33B.. Yes.
Old 01-26-2006 | 07:13 PM
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so what about the most important part of the brake system...do you stop any quicker or do the brakes "bite" better with the 6th gen setup? Looks are great, but if I am putting money into brakes, I want an improvement in stopping distance since the uss ronald regan can stop quicker than our maxes and it only goes 43mph! i really think nissan dropped the ball in the braking dept on our cars...they forgot the 2nd part of the equation. an object in motion...NEEDS BREMBOS!
yeah nissan should have put brembos or at least the 300zx tt calieprs o nthe se models of the maxima when it first came out. i dont think people have did comparisons on brakign distance but i bet they all can say the car stops better and pedal feel is better. but sometimes that is not enough to convince people. but dont go saying nissans brakes suck. i mean they are not the best but they are better then hondas. hondas have bad brakes and the stopping distance is horrible. if you dont believe me go look at a car magazine or even google it.
Old 01-26-2006 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by IWNTMORHP!!
so what about the most important part of the brake system...do you stop any quicker or do the brakes "bite" better with the 6th gen setup? Looks are great, but if I am putting money into brakes, I want an improvement in stopping distance since the uss ronald regan can stop quicker than our maxes and it only goes 43mph! i really think nissan dropped the ball in the braking dept on our cars...they forgot the 2nd part of the equation. an object in motion...NEEDS BREMBOS!
see, for some reason, i think the total opposite: i'm still on my original brakes (the pads were changed at 29k and i now have 49k) and my brakes are a HELLUVA lot better than a lot out there...the only time i began to doubt my brakes was when i kept on slamming on them to slow me down from 100+ to 75 when we caravaned to Baton Rouge (wouldn't recommend doing this to anyone!) and they began to get waaaay too hot....now i know i probably won't be doing that again, and that's not what the brakes are made to do...they're made to stop the car in every day driving.....

just the other day, i was on the interstate doing 75 behind an audi A4 and all of a sudden it was completely stopped....the A4 was braking as hard as it could and he still ended up having to swerve into the shoulder to miss the car in front of him, and when i was braking as hard as i could, the distance between me and him kept on growing....idk, i think our brakes are perfectly fine for every day driving....
Old 01-26-2006 | 08:24 PM
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yeh, i always thought our brakes were good until i came on here. ive driven cars with 4piston and two piston calipers that dont weigh much more than our cars and they dont stop as fast...
Old 01-26-2006 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I went by BMW's and MB design..

Actually the new M5s cross drilled rotors go the other direction. But I did notice on an E39 M5 with Dinan rotors, that they go in the direction you have, So I did the same.
Old 01-26-2006 | 09:19 PM
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But I did notice on an E39 M5 with Dinan rotors,
Supposedly it gives better bite etc.. For me they were more of a cosmetic deal, not the entire set-up, just the drilled/slotted part since they were the same price.
Old 01-27-2006 | 07:18 AM
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I thought the E39 M5 did not have cross drilled. Cross drilled brakes on a BMW are a new fangled thing.
Old 01-27-2006 | 10:26 AM
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Did you not read the 2nd half of the sentece? That E39 had Dinan rotors
Old 01-27-2006 | 02:53 PM
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Yea this was a full Dinan S2 M5.... It has the works
Old 01-27-2006 | 05:32 PM
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couldnt that mean that they put the rotors on themselves and did it backwards?
Old 01-27-2006 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Did you not read the 2nd half of the sentece? That E39 had Dinan rotors
Apparently not!

I dont read senteces
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the only negative result i can think of from putting the slotted rotors on 'backwards' would be more wear on the pads...
Old 01-27-2006 | 06:37 PM
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couldnt that mean that they put the rotors on themselves and did it backwards?

Our Dinan tech put them on like that. He says thats the right way. Then we actually went into calling Dinan. They say thats the correct direction Brembo suggests. The brakes are just a even more expensive version of brembo brakes, cuz they say "DINAN by Brembo"
Old 01-28-2006 | 10:08 AM
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What are the best pads to run with this for all around driving and not so much dust. I have priced out bendix and axxis for around 50 and hawks were a little more. Any suggestions?
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I'm using OEM Nissan 6th gen pads. DAVEB told me they're ceramic - at least according to their OEM supplier rep. I'm pretty happy with them.
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Originally Posted by MetaOrbit
I'm using OEM Nissan 6th gen pads. DAVEB told me they're ceramic - at least according to their OEM supplier rep. I'm pretty happy with them.
What was the cost on them from Dave? I already priced out the calipers and stuff from him so this might be a good option
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