Rubbing on one side, but not the other
bringing this back from the dead.
Larrio, thanks for the tip. i went ahead and did this earlier today.
the left side uses a 3/4" and the right side, a 17mm. i may be wrong on the 3/4" as it should be metric, but it fit snug, so i went with it.
these things are held on TIGHT, but i got it loose. had to use a 3 foot breaker bar on the pass. side bolt. it finally got loose though. jacked up the beam until i was at roughly the same measurement then just tightened the bolts up. i don't think i did it 100% perfect as the driver side bolt was still a tad off center, but it was much more centered than it had originally been.
i havent' driven the car yet, but when i put my fingers in between both fenders and the wheels, they seem a lot more similiar than before.
i bumped this up because i KNOW people have the same problem.
Larrio, thanks for the tip. i went ahead and did this earlier today.
the left side uses a 3/4" and the right side, a 17mm. i may be wrong on the 3/4" as it should be metric, but it fit snug, so i went with it.
these things are held on TIGHT, but i got it loose. had to use a 3 foot breaker bar on the pass. side bolt. it finally got loose though. jacked up the beam until i was at roughly the same measurement then just tightened the bolts up. i don't think i did it 100% perfect as the driver side bolt was still a tad off center, but it was much more centered than it had originally been.
i havent' driven the car yet, but when i put my fingers in between both fenders and the wheels, they seem a lot more similiar than before.
i bumped this up because i KNOW people have the same problem.
Update on my specific situation and this "aligning" method. It doesn't actually work, at least not for me. Yesterday I have the struts removed from the rear, and all the bolts in the cross memeber loosened. I was unable to move the rear beam at all. Based on my wheels/tires I have a quarter inch shift to the right.
Yesterday I found that it won't moved, and my bushing actually didn't show any pinching. My thoughts on why it didn't move is because the trailing arms are the ones that actually determine the rear beam alignment.
Oh well...so my rear is off a quarter of an inch, but I have no rubbing. Tire wear is normal as well. So I am not too worried.
Not sure if anyone else had success with this method...but I doubt anyone else would unless their bushing were severely pinched.
Yesterday I found that it won't moved, and my bushing actually didn't show any pinching. My thoughts on why it didn't move is because the trailing arms are the ones that actually determine the rear beam alignment.
Oh well...so my rear is off a quarter of an inch, but I have no rubbing. Tire wear is normal as well. So I am not too worried.
Not sure if anyone else had success with this method...but I doubt anyone else would unless their bushing were severely pinched.
Originally Posted by foodmanry
Update on my specific situation and this "aligning" method. It doesn't actually work, at least not for me. Yesterday I have the struts removed from the rear, and all the bolts in the cross memeber loosened. I was unable to move the rear beam at all. Based on my wheels/tires I have a quarter inch shift to the right.
Yesterday I found that it won't moved, and my bushing actually didn't show any pinching. My thoughts on why it didn't move is because the trailing arms are the ones that actually determine the rear beam alignment.
Oh well...so my rear is off a quarter of an inch, but I have no rubbing. Tire wear is normal as well. So I am not too worried.
Not sure if anyone else had success with this method...but I doubt anyone else would unless their bushing were severely pinched.
Yesterday I found that it won't moved, and my bushing actually didn't show any pinching. My thoughts on why it didn't move is because the trailing arms are the ones that actually determine the rear beam alignment.
Oh well...so my rear is off a quarter of an inch, but I have no rubbing. Tire wear is normal as well. So I am not too worried.
Not sure if anyone else had success with this method...but I doubt anyone else would unless their bushing were severely pinched.
i'm agreeing with foodmanry. my last post said that i'd test it out and see what happened. well, as foodmanry stated, it didnt' do sh*t captain. i'm pretty much used the rubbing when i hit nasty dips or when i got a few chubbies in the back seat. if/when i get new tires, i'll go for 40 series and it should clear the scrape.
Originally Posted by PoLo
wow. good bump.
i'm agreeing with foodmanry. my last post said that i'd test it out and see what happened. well, as foodmanry stated, it didnt' do sh*t captain. i'm pretty much used the rubbing when i hit nasty dips or when i got a few chubbies in the back seat. if/when i get new tires, i'll go for 40 series and it should clear the scrape.
i'm agreeing with foodmanry. my last post said that i'd test it out and see what happened. well, as foodmanry stated, it didnt' do sh*t captain. i'm pretty much used the rubbing when i hit nasty dips or when i got a few chubbies in the back seat. if/when i get new tires, i'll go for 40 series and it should clear the scrape.
The ultimate question is...how does the alignment shift over time? I don't see how changing the shock/spring/coilover combination would do it. The way that the shocks are mounted to the rear you have an even pressure and length on both sides so they nullify one another. The only possible way is if you have coilovers and the height is not the same on them. But you would probably notice this and have to drive like that for a while for the unit to bend.
Ahhh the other possible way is if the rear beam and trailing arms are bent somehow. Come to think of it I was hit in the left rear of my Maxima while on the freeway a while back. I wonder if that shifted it...hmmm.
Originally Posted by foodmanry
Ahhh the other possible way is if the rear beam and trailing arms are bent somehow. Come to think of it I was hit in the left rear of my Maxima while on the freeway a while back. I wonder if that shifted it...hmmm.
Originally Posted by MetaOrbit
If you look in the rear passenger side wheel well you'll kinda see a tab where the bumper and fender meet back in there. It kind of juts out into the wheel well, and with the stock wheels/tires sunk back in the wheel well it never rubs, but when you push things wider it will on large bumps/dips/etc.
You can take an angle grinder and grind away most of that tab (leaving the nut and bolt) and then use rubberized undercoating to recoat it. That should help alleviate the rubbing.
Aside from the fact that on these cars the right side (on the rear) seems to stick out a bit more it also seems that that aforementioned tab protrudes further into the wheel well than on the driver's side.
You can take an angle grinder and grind away most of that tab (leaving the nut and bolt) and then use rubberized undercoating to recoat it. That should help alleviate the rubbing.
Aside from the fact that on these cars the right side (on the rear) seems to stick out a bit more it also seems that that aforementioned tab protrudes further into the wheel well than on the driver's side.
i have 245/35/20 on my 01 max and the only thing i had to do was put a spacer on the front left side to stop the wheel from rubing the brake calaber i also put a spacer on the fromt right to make it even. but if i wandted to put spacer on the backe i would have to lift my rear up about 1in or so.
Or get your fenders rollled, and it would look a lot better. Having front spacers but not rear spacers is going to exaggerate the narrow width of the rear track, which looks bad enough already.
Originally Posted by VQuick
Or get your fenders rollled, and it would look a lot better. Having front spacers but not rear spacers is going to exaggerate the narrow width of the rear track, which looks bad enough already.
To the untrained eye you cant even tell that I have space on it i guess because its only abuot an 1/2 in.
I tried this on my 4th gen, although I could only reach one of the bolts easily enough to loosen it, and saw no motion of the bushing or beam and felt no difference in the suspension.
I have had noticed this problem since I have had my max. I've lowered it and it's even more noticible. Not only the rear axle is tucked in on the driver side but the front as well. By lowering the max, it may seem the driver side is more aggressive and lowered than the passenger side. I believe it's the way it is built. In general, the 5th generations are this way. To correct the problem and for all around sit, you will need to add 5mm spacers for the front and back driver side.
A little complicated but success....
My rear susp. was DEFINTELY uneven, pass, side being lower than the drivers'....I WAS lowered on Illuminas and Progress, so i think that had something to do with the bushings being askew.
The pass. side bushing was a MUTHAFUKKA to get loose!! --nobody mentioned that it's too tight to get the impact in there due to the muffler>!)(*^^&%^$%
I followed the leveling procedure - but I'm not entirely sure how to make both sides even without leaving the wheels on?! (missing instructions?!)
PARTICULARLY since raising the driver's side will effect the passenger side incrementally.
In any case - i think it worked!
Both sides are within 1/8" same drop -- so mission accomplished!
Thanks for the post of FSM procedure Larrio and others who followed-up.
I'm running stock struts, springs, 17" wheels, and OEM rubber 225/50/17 --fyi.
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The pass. side bushing was a MUTHAFUKKA to get loose!! --nobody mentioned that it's too tight to get the impact in there due to the muffler>!)(*^^&%^$%
I followed the leveling procedure - but I'm not entirely sure how to make both sides even without leaving the wheels on?! (missing instructions?!)
PARTICULARLY since raising the driver's side will effect the passenger side incrementally.
In any case - i think it worked!
Both sides are within 1/8" same drop -- so mission accomplished!
Thanks for the post of FSM procedure Larrio and others who followed-up.
I'm running stock struts, springs, 17" wheels, and OEM rubber 225/50/17 --fyi.
gr
Last edited by ghostrider17; May 16, 2008 at 08:33 PM.
Man am I confused!
Some say it can't be adjusted and some have done it? doesn't seem to be a consistent answer...
I too am lowered on Illuminas and Progress but the driver side, front and rear is about 1/4 lower than passenger side? This is backward from what you experienced ghostrider17.
Also since my front driver side is also lower, would adjusting the rear even out the front? I've checked the front strut install and everything seems to be fine.
Some say it can't be adjusted and some have done it? doesn't seem to be a consistent answer...
I too am lowered on Illuminas and Progress but the driver side, front and rear is about 1/4 lower than passenger side? This is backward from what you experienced ghostrider17.
Also since my front driver side is also lower, would adjusting the rear even out the front? I've checked the front strut install and everything seems to be fine.
I think there is some confusion as to the "alignment" problem. I was looking at it from a side to side alignment issue, my drop was even on both side. But it seems people are saying this works if you have an uneven drop on the different sides.
Try it...worst comes to worst it doesn't work for you.
Try it...worst comes to worst it doesn't work for you.
Bumping this thread.....please read full post
so I myself have a situation, on my previous suspension when I had 4 ppl sit in the car it would rub every single second while driving to a point where I could smell burning rubber from my pass rear tire due to excessive rubbing, I was limited to only 3 ppl max which forced me to get a complete new suspension
so now I have monroe quick struts front and back, now if I have 4 people in the car it is pretty smooth but now only rubs with a dip in the road, driver side never rubs,
my brother has the same 96 as mine with completely bad struts, and 5 people in his car it never rubs no matter the road condition, amount of ppl and cargo in his trunk
anyone know of a solid solution ?
btw I have a 96,
so I myself have a situation, on my previous suspension when I had 4 ppl sit in the car it would rub every single second while driving to a point where I could smell burning rubber from my pass rear tire due to excessive rubbing, I was limited to only 3 ppl max which forced me to get a complete new suspension
so now I have monroe quick struts front and back, now if I have 4 people in the car it is pretty smooth but now only rubs with a dip in the road, driver side never rubs,
my brother has the same 96 as mine with completely bad struts, and 5 people in his car it never rubs no matter the road condition, amount of ppl and cargo in his trunk
anyone know of a solid solution ?
btw I have a 96,
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