1.5 ton Jack is that pushing it?
04-12-2006, 10:24 AM
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Its a few hundred pounds over in TOTAL weight. Since you'll only be jacking up the front/rear or left/right, you'll be fine.
Given roughly 60/40 weight distribution and 3300 lbs vehicle weight, the distribution will be 1980 F/1320 R
Given roughly 60/40 weight distribution and 3300 lbs vehicle weight, the distribution will be 1980 F/1320 R
04-12-2006, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Battle Max
Sears has a really good deal on a 1.5 racing jack and i know that our car is a few hundred pounds over the 3k mark. Is it pushing it or will i be okay?
Thanks!
Thanks!
04-12-2006, 10:33 AM
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yes it is fine to lift it up with a 1.5 ton jack, but do not leave it up just on the jack, put it on stands, because the jack could start leaking the hydraulic fluid and almost crush you (speaking from experience)
04-12-2006, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Larrio
Its a few hundred pounds over in TOTAL weight. Since you'll only be jacking up the front/rear or left/right, you'll be fine.
Given roughly 60/40 weight distribution and 3300 lbs vehicle weight, the distribution will be 1980 F/1320 R
Given roughly 60/40 weight distribution and 3300 lbs vehicle weight, the distribution will be 1980 F/1320 R
Do not read any other post than this. This is all you need to know.
04-12-2006, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Battle Max
Sears has a really good deal on a 1.5 racing jack and i know that our car is a few hundred pounds over the 3k mark. Is it pushing it or will i be okay?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Total weight = 4400 pounds
Front weight = 2800 pounds
Back weight = 1600 pounds
A jack should atleast be twice in tonage than what the weight of the vehicle.
I would go nothing below 3 Ton (6000 pounds, for some reason the jacks calculate 1T = 2000 pounds, but actually 1T = 2200 pounds).
FYI, I have a Torin 3T jack -- feels safe!!!
04-12-2006, 12:30 PM
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I have the craftsman 1.5 ton "race" jack and It works just fine, unless you want to jack it up at the centroid then you will be fine.
and 4400Lbs must be a missprint.
James
and 4400Lbs must be a missprint.
Car weight is as follows
Total weight = 4400 pounds
Total weight = 4400 pounds
James
04-12-2006, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Love_00_Max
Total weight = 4400 pounds
Front weight = 2800 pounds
Back weight = 1600 pounds
A jack should atleast be twice in tonage than what the weight of the vehicle.
I would go nothing below 3 Ton (6000 pounds, for some reason the jacks calculate 1T = 2000 pounds, but actually 1T = 2200 pounds).
FYI, I have a Torin 3T jack -- feels safe!!!
Front weight = 2800 pounds
Back weight = 1600 pounds
A jack should atleast be twice in tonage than what the weight of the vehicle.
I would go nothing below 3 Ton (6000 pounds, for some reason the jacks calculate 1T = 2000 pounds, but actually 1T = 2200 pounds).
FYI, I have a Torin 3T jack -- feels safe!!!
PS: im pretty sure 1T really does equal 2000 lbs, at least thats what a physics textbook will tell you.
In response to the question, you should be fine, the first post sums it up. you will never actually jack up the whole 3300 at one time, always distributed partially to the back or front wheels that are still on the ground.
PS: if the front were 1200 lbs heavier that the back you might flip over on speed bumps.
4400 lbs FTL
04-12-2006, 01:04 PM
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1T is a US measurement, not a metric measurement, so it has no relation to Kilogram besides having some conversion factor.
Trust me, your car is not 4400 lbs, it might say 3400 lbs and thats the GVWR. the only way its 4400 is if its fully loaded with people and has lead in the trunk, do you jack your car up while you and your family/friends are in the car?
Trust me, your car is not 4400 lbs, it might say 3400 lbs and thats the GVWR. the only way its 4400 is if its fully loaded with people and has lead in the trunk, do you jack your car up while you and your family/friends are in the car?
04-12-2006, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
1T is a US measurement, not a metric measurement, so it has no relation to Kilogram besides having some conversion factor.
Trust me, your car is not 4400 lbs, it might say 3400 lbs and thats the GVWR. the only way its 4400 is if its fully loaded with people and has lead in the trunk, do you jack your car up while you and your family/friends are in the car?
Trust me, your car is not 4400 lbs, it might say 3400 lbs and thats the GVWR. the only way its 4400 is if its fully loaded with people and has lead in the trunk, do you jack your car up while you and your family/friends are in the car?
OK, I ran down to the parking lot and this is what I see
Total GVWR : 4333
Front GVWR : 2333 (give or take some pounds)
Rear GVWR : 2000
04-12-2006, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by google conversion
1 short ton = 2 000 pounds
1 metric ton = 2 204.62262 pounds
1 metric ton = 2 204.62262 pounds
As stated before, it should be fine to jack it up, but put it on jack stands and don't leave the weight on the jack.
04-12-2006, 01:24 PM
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GVWR = Gross Vehicle Weight Rating
It's how much weight your vehicle is designed to carry. The GVWR includes the net weight of the vehicle, plus the weight of passengers, fuel, cargo and any accessories added to the vehicle after purchase. The GVWR is a safety standard used to prevent overloading.
It's how much weight your vehicle is designed to carry. The GVWR includes the net weight of the vehicle, plus the weight of passengers, fuel, cargo and any accessories added to the vehicle after purchase. The GVWR is a safety standard used to prevent overloading.
04-12-2006, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
That is the maximum wieght the car can handle IIRC.
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GVWR - Acronym for Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. This information is provided by the vehicle manufacturer and is located on a tag generally found on the driver side door jamb. It tells you how much total weight, including occupants, fuel, bed load, etc., the vehicle is rated to carry.
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04-12-2006, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bigEL
What are you carrying in your car?!
Back to the original post. Like everyone has said go with the 1.5 ton. That will be more than enough to handle lifting the car
04-12-2006, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Battle Max
Sears has a really good deal on a 1.5 racing jack and i know that our car is a few hundred pounds over the 3k mark. Is it pushing it or will i be okay?
Thanks!
Thanks!
04-12-2006, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CCS2k1Max
What's a really good deal? I may pick one up myself for my much less than two ton max.
04-12-2006, 02:33 PM
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Just a note about the aluminum racing jack.... it doesn't lift as high as a conventional jack since it starts off at a lower height. Something you may want to consider down the line if you need more access underneath
04-12-2006, 02:50 PM
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5.5gen maxes are 3200 and change
I35s are 3300 and change
I got a 2 or 3 ton jack from walmart for like 21$. Even if the thing breaks I dont care. Although the metal shaft on that you hold onto to pump the jack (man this is sounding phallic) is pretty weak and when I am lifting heavier vehicles like my dads escalade it starts to bend a little. Ohh well if that breaks I will just replace it with a solid steel bar. But even for being 21 bucks it extends high enough to pick the front wheels of my dads escalade up off the ground.
I35s are 3300 and change
I got a 2 or 3 ton jack from walmart for like 21$. Even if the thing breaks I dont care. Although the metal shaft on that you hold onto to pump the jack (man this is sounding phallic) is pretty weak and when I am lifting heavier vehicles like my dads escalade it starts to bend a little. Ohh well if that breaks I will just replace it with a solid steel bar. But even for being 21 bucks it extends high enough to pick the front wheels of my dads escalade up off the ground.
04-12-2006, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Larrio
Just a note about the aluminum racing jack.... it doesn't lift as high as a conventional jack since it starts off at a lower height. Something you may want to consider down the line if you need more access underneath
04-12-2006, 03:42 PM
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This is a great set -- 3 T Craftsman floor jack, stands and creeper set for $129. I have seen this on sale for $99 too..
FYI, jacks comes on and off on sale, just have to keep looking. I have had good success with their online catalog compared to the ones in sears has in their stores.
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...id=00950188000
FYI, jacks comes on and off on sale, just have to keep looking. I have had good success with their online catalog compared to the ones in sears has in their stores.
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...id=00950188000
04-12-2006, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
thats true, my car's not even lowered and i have to go in from the wheel well or the jack hits on my side skirts.
04-12-2006, 09:37 PM
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First of all...
Those of you who are arguing about the measure of a ton are actually both right. A "long ton" in the UK/Imperial system was 2240 pounds (1016.05 kg). The UK and most other countries that used the Imperial system of measurement now use the metric tonne (1000 kg or 2204.62 pounds) as the only form of "ton" for legal trade. There's less than a 2% difference between the old Imperial ton and the metric tonne, so the transition was easy for nations that used the Imperial system.
The "short ton" used in America is exactly 2000 pounds (907.18 kg). This definition of a ton was also applied to the "Harbour ton" in South Africa. Both the "short ton" and the "long ton" mentioned above are composed of twenty "hundredweights." The difference between them is that the short ton is based on twenty true hundredweights of 100 pounds each, while the crazy British based the long ton on twenty hundredweights that each weighed 112 pounds. The metric tonne, of course, is not related to pounds or hundredweights. It is simply equal to 1000 kg, which just happens to be very close to the same weight as a long ton.
Second...
If you want a jack with a good lift range but your car is too low to accomodate a big jack, there is an easy solution. I have a 3 ton Torin SUV jack with a lift range of up to 20 inches. Obviously, this is a big jack that wasn't meant to lift a family sedan, especially not a lowered one.
I solve the problem by driving up on my ramps then using my jack. If you already have ramps (and you should if you do your own oil changes), then this is a fast and easy solution to allow you to use a jack with a good lift range. If you don't have ramps yet... get some. They're cheap, and they can be faster and safer to use for jobs that don't require your wheels to be off the ground (like oil changes).
Those of you who are arguing about the measure of a ton are actually both right. A "long ton" in the UK/Imperial system was 2240 pounds (1016.05 kg). The UK and most other countries that used the Imperial system of measurement now use the metric tonne (1000 kg or 2204.62 pounds) as the only form of "ton" for legal trade. There's less than a 2% difference between the old Imperial ton and the metric tonne, so the transition was easy for nations that used the Imperial system.
The "short ton" used in America is exactly 2000 pounds (907.18 kg). This definition of a ton was also applied to the "Harbour ton" in South Africa. Both the "short ton" and the "long ton" mentioned above are composed of twenty "hundredweights." The difference between them is that the short ton is based on twenty true hundredweights of 100 pounds each, while the crazy British based the long ton on twenty hundredweights that each weighed 112 pounds. The metric tonne, of course, is not related to pounds or hundredweights. It is simply equal to 1000 kg, which just happens to be very close to the same weight as a long ton.
Second...
If you want a jack with a good lift range but your car is too low to accomodate a big jack, there is an easy solution. I have a 3 ton Torin SUV jack with a lift range of up to 20 inches. Obviously, this is a big jack that wasn't meant to lift a family sedan, especially not a lowered one.
I solve the problem by driving up on my ramps then using my jack. If you already have ramps (and you should if you do your own oil changes), then this is a fast and easy solution to allow you to use a jack with a good lift range. If you don't have ramps yet... get some. They're cheap, and they can be faster and safer to use for jobs that don't require your wheels to be off the ground (like oil changes).
04-13-2006, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
true but most people here are soo low that a regular jack wont fit. if i try to jack my car up with a regular jack that has the saddle at a normal height, i need to lift the side of the car first and then the jack will fit under the front of the car.
Its more feasible to drive it onto ramps and use a conventional jack for more extensive work when I need more room
04-13-2006, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Battle Max
Sears has a really good deal on a 1.5 racing jack and i know that our car is a few hundred pounds over the 3k mark. Is it pushing it or will i be okay?
Thanks!
Thanks!
