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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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I love my H&R's. MUCH more comfortable than my custom-made springs for my 95 Diamante (none were in production at the time, so I had them specially made.)
Old Sep 17, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mydecember1985
I love my H&R's. MUCH more comfortable than my custom-made springs for my 95 Diamante (none were in production at the time, so I had them specially made.)
custom-made = cut oem springs or ACTUAL custommade springs?
Old Sep 17, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DrKlop
Josh, as far as I know Blues are just way too stiff for GLE springs. I couldn't get exact numbers for 5th gens, but comparing Illuminas and Blues for 4th gens, Blues should be about as stiff as Illuminas set to 4.

Here's the info I was able to find out:
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...5&postcount=94 (lower part of the post)
That is still an assumption. That graph is for the blues for a VW I not the blues available for our cars, which could deff be valved differently. Where did you get your info about the blues for the 4th gens working well with spring rates in the 200s-220s
Old Sep 17, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SLVRMAXX
but how can you possibly say H-techs can give a more "stock" like ride? Its just not true...
compared to eibachs, yes they are softer. Does that clear that up?
Old Sep 17, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
WAIT WAIT WAIT....your problem is not your springs....it is your struts!!

Eibach spring rate cannot be "handled" by the stock struts - they simply do not have the rebound ability to deal with the higher spring rate. Thats what makes the car feel a bit bouncy and floaty...

I recentlyaskd my wife "how is the ride" and she said "it's fine" ....I'd say her Mazda 3 stock is equally as firm of a ride.

If you're looking for cushy, get some Tokico Blues and GLE spring......

i cannont stress enough how important it is to pair higher-rate springs with a strut that can handle this rate (i.e. not OEM struts)
Not sure if u were directing that to me, I don't have stock struts anymore. Especially not with Eibachs I was explaining to spark plugs that when I had maxspeeds with stock struts, the ride ws comfy/stocklike, but very floaty and bouncy due to the struts. To clear that up
Old Sep 17, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sciff5
That is still an assumption. That graph is for the blues for a VW I not the blues available for our cars, which could deff be valved differently. Where did you get your info about the blues for the 4th gens working well with spring rates in the 200s-220s
Got this info from tokico tech (on the phone), here's more or less the way conversation was going:

Me: What are the stiffest springs that Illuminas for 2000 Nissan Maxima can handle?

Tokico rep (after putting me on hold) : 230 lbs/in front and 315 lbs/in rear.

Me: What are the softest springs that I can run with illuminas?

Tokico rep: first setting is designed to match stock springs.

Me: What kind of springs are Blues for my car designed for?

Tokico rep: um... well, they are pretty much OEM replacement, they are about 10 - 15% stiffer than stock...

Me: Is there a way to find out exact numbers?

Tokico rep (after putting me on hold for about 10 minutes) : 205 lbs/in front and 293 lbs/in rear.

Me: Ok thanks!

Tokico rep: oh wait, it's for 99 Maxima!

Me: Could you tell me these numbers for my year?

Tokico rep (after putting me on hold) : sorry but I can not find this info (about Blues) for 2000 Maxima

Edit: info about Illiminas should be correct because different rep. told me the same exact numbers.
Old Sep 17, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spark plugs.
custom-made = cut oem springs or ACTUAL custommade springs?

REAL CUSTOM springs. Friend worked at an off-name manufacturing facility that produces JDM springs in Clearwater while going to USF. Punched in some numbers in their machine and bout 6 days later after testing and treatment, I had em on my car. cost lil over 450. it was only bout 1" even drop, but it still looked good(was HORRID before).

QUITE floaty with stock struts, so I got some cheap Monroe Sensa-Tracs and it was fine.

Old Sep 17, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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it really sounds like with GLE springs and firmer damping (like blues or high settings on Illuminas) are really the answer you're searching for. It's nice to have everyone giving you all this input, because when i read it helps me decide what i want to do with my setup.
Old Sep 17, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mydecember1985
REAL CUSTOM springs. Friend worked at an off-name manufacturing facility that produces JDM springs in Clearwater


they make JDM springs in Florida?
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DrKlop
Josh, as far as I know Blues are just way too stiff for GLE springs. I couldn't get exact numbers for 5th gens, but comparing Illuminas and Blues for 4th gens, Blues should be about as stiff as Illuminas set to 4.

Here's the info I was able to find out:
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...5&postcount=94 (lower part of the post)
I had blues and Gle springs on my car and they are not to stiff for gle springs. The ride was just way to soft for me. The previous owner of my 6 speed swapped out the rear SE springs to GLE springs and the ride was just to cushy to be sporty. Put the SE springs back in the rear and the car is awesome now...
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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He called them JDM. Speaking of which, what the h#ll does JDM stand for? He (tim) told me he'd check it out cus he was training a new guy how to reprogram the machinery to produce the application they wanted, so he borrowed my car for 2 days, did the measuring and such, apparently it was VERY similar to the 3000GT, then 6 days later, I ran down to have him put them in in his garage. Only did the rear springs first (just in case), rode for almost 2 weeks like that before deciding it was safe to do all 4.
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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JDM stands for japaneese domestic market

Plz dont use the acronym if you dont know what it means.
Old Sep 19, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by irish44j


they make JDM springs in Florida?
10 letters.
Old Sep 19, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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I'll just add my experience. I had Eibach with blues for a few years. For my taste they were a little harsh, but I liked the ride and the look. I finally decided to go with H&R's with Iluminas and I'm glad I did. The car still looks good (I think the Eibachs looked slightly better) and handles very well (I don't autocross). For me, the ride is much better. Both sets of springs are firmer than stock but the H&R's are more comfortable for me. BTW I have the Iluminas set on 2 front and rear. I may experiment with this in the future although the rears are tough to get at. That's just my experience ...
Old Sep 19, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k1seae
I'll just add my experience. I had Eibach with blues for a few years. For my taste they were a little harsh, but I liked the ride and the look. I finally decided to go with H&R's with Iluminas and I'm glad I did. The car still looks good (I think the Eibachs looked slightly better) and handles very well (I don't autocross). For me, the ride is much better. Both sets of springs are firmer than stock but the H&R's are more comfortable for me. BTW I have the Iluminas set on 2 front and rear. I may experiment with this in the future although the rears are tough to get at. That's just my experience ...
thanks. i was looking for firsthand experience with them.
Old Sep 19, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k1seae
I'll just add my experience. I had Eibach with blues for a few years. For my taste they were a little harsh, but I liked the ride and the look. I finally decided to go with H&R's with Iluminas and I'm glad I did. The car still looks good (I think the Eibachs looked slightly better) and handles very well (I don't autocross). For me, the ride is much better. Both sets of springs are firmer than stock but the H&R's are more comfortable for me. BTW I have the Iluminas set on 2 front and rear. I may experiment with this in the future although the rears are tough to get at. That's just my experience ...

Based on DrKlops feelings about the blues they are about equivelent to illuminas at 4. So the fact that you went from non adjustable to adjustable struts could be the bigger factor in why your current setup feeling more comfortable now than it was before with the Eibachs. Did you ever try the Eibachs with the Illuminas?
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