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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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02 max died a fiery death






My maxima died a fiery death today. I went to park at a customer site and come back 45 min later to see my car being extinguished. The high pressure power steering hose had been leaking lately and I ordered a new one from dave b last thursday. I think the hose burst when I parked and dumped all over the exhaust.

The fire was so hot that everything in the engine compartment was melted as well as part of the dash and the windshield. Even my prized passport 8500 x2 blue was melted.

I have full coverage and I got a smoking deal (no pun intended) when I bought the car, so I'll actually make a little money on the payoff. Plus my tranny was on its way out, so I can't complain too much.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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that sucks man. at first i though someone lit it on fire. what are you getting next.
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Only one word....ouch
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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It looks like the phenolic spacers survived when everything else melted. I'm gonna have to salvage those.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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C'mon you did it on purpose!!!!! J/K

I am glad you weren't in it when it caught fire!!!!

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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Weimar Ben
It looks like the phenolic spacers survived when everything else melted. I'm gonna have to salvage those.
LOL I was thinking of getting those but now I defintely am...sorry for your loss man. How many miles were on the car? Will you get another 5.5?
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Jesus Christ... let me get your door panels...?
The door panels may smell like smoke.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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dang those headlights still look good though.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Weimar Ben
It looks like the phenolic spacers survived when everything else melted. I'm gonna have to salvage those.
That is crazy! I am sorry. It doesn't sound you are too bummed out.

I would love to see some shots of the spacers if you are able to get them off the motor. Just snap the heads off all the bolts if they won't come out.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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LOL I was thinking of getting those but now I defintely am...sorry for your loss man. How many miles were on the car? Will you get another 5.5?
The car had 91k miles on it. I'm not sure what I'm getting now. I'm thinking of getting a new camry 4cyl as a daily driver. Since I got my honda cbr600rr, all cars feel slow.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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forgive me, as this may be a newbie question... but how could a power steering leak onto the exhaust cause a fire?

granted the exhaust is hot, but when fluids leak onto it, that usually makes steam, not a fire, no?
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wyche89
forgive me, as this may be a newbie question... but how could a power steering leak onto the exhaust cause a fire?

granted the exhaust is hot, but when fluids leak onto it, that usually makes steam, not a fire, no?
Power steering fluid is an oil, and oil does burn. Especially when it drops onto cattman headers after some spirited driving.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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Sucks man.

I do agree with the post above tho. I have has ATF leak on the exhaust and it has smoked but never enough to cause a fire.

Maxima's use ATF as power steering fluid BTW
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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PSF most certainly can catch fire.

Sucks man, good luck on the next car... Wanna mail me those headlights?
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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PSF most certainly can catch fire.

Sucks man, good luck on the next car... Wanna mail me those headlights?
I'm gonna have to work that out with the insurance company. I'll see what I can do.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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holy crap... so the exhaust can actually get hot enough to ignite oil that leaks onto it? i had no idea that was possible... does this happen often?
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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holy crap... so the exhaust can actually get hot enough to ignite oil that leaks onto it? i had no idea that was possible... does this happen often?
Well, that's my hypothesis. The fire department wasn't all that interested in looking at it. They simply said the fire started in the engine compartment.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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holy crap... so the exhaust can actually get hot enough to ignite oil that leaks onto it? i had no idea that was possible... does this happen often?

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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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Without me searching a zillion threads, is this power steering hose issue mainly a 5.5 issue? If it is, why is there not a recall on it?
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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**** I need to fix my power steering leak!
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Dibs on Headlights they don't look to bad with a little buffing
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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Yikes! So sorry for your loss.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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a little of that wax thats sold on late night tv and that fire damage will buff right out....lol...

sorry man,,,,raw deal
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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WOW!!! That is nuts man. I am glad you are safe and you can recover from it. I know the feeling of leaks. My 3rd gen leaked Tranny fluid and oil. the under side of my car was a slick. All over my warpspeedperformance exhaust and headers. That car has since been put down, but I know the feelings!!!
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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In thinking about this some more, I think it'd be pretty difficult for oil to actually catch fire rather than just smoke. And if it did actually catch fire, would it burn so hot that it would make the glass melt? As can be seen in the pics, this was one crazy hot fire.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Wow, that sucks man. Good luck with all the insurance details. Let us know what replaces it.
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Oh snap son, iam glad your ok, that sucks bad that, that had to happen, Here i am sitting here all depressed because i need a new motor because of a bad crank , and this happend to you, i feel your pain man.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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dibs on the engine cover! YES!
Good thing the insurance is gonna cover that. What you planning on getting next?
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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yo..that brings baq scary memories. riding in the baq of my buddy's regal coupe on the interstate when his car seizes and starts smoking something fierce thru the a/c vents.... the car burned up and we're not sure what happened cuz it was on fire for 2 hours!!! and there was nothing left of the car but a retarded looking burnt frame.... scary scary ****...but we had plenty of time to coast, pull over and get out and everything out of the trunk cuz the fire spread so slow...but once it got going it was intense... good thinig you wherent in the car when it started.
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dibs on the engine cover! YES!
Good thing the insurance is gonna cover that. What you planning on getting next?

O_O its a melted pile of goo
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Weimar Ben
In thinking about this some more, I think it'd be pretty difficult for oil to actually catch fire rather than just smoke. And if it did actually catch fire, would it burn so hot that it would make the glass melt? As can be seen in the pics, this was one crazy hot fire.
i've never heard of any type of oil catching fire from dripping onto an exhaust pipe... if that were possible, then i would think that the manufacturer would have done something differently in their design to prevent that from happening.. fluid leaks are too common in cars, and it wouldn't make sense for such a severe hazard to not be considered in almost 100 years of automotive technology... i'm thinking something else caused the fire
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Damn Man! At Least Your Alright......hell You Can Get Another Car
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Well, that's my hypothesis. The fire department wasn't all that interested in looking at it. They simply said the fire started in the engine compartment.

what an excellent observation they gave
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what an excellent observation they gave
i thought it started on the roof

EDIT: better joke... ahem...

i thought it started on the spoiler



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