Temp. Sensor in stock air scoop
09-07-2001, 03:02 PM
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Has anyone removed the stock air scoop? I want to get rid of it cuz it looks weird, and I was wondering if I just take out the temp sensor and stick it somewhere near the battery, will I get any CE lights or anything? And for those of you who have removed it, where did you mount the Boost senor then? Thanks!
09-07-2001, 05:12 PM
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Do you mean the one bolted on to the front? That is the MAP (boost) sensor I think.... The one further down sticking in to the tubing is the temp sensor. You can mount the MAP sensor anywhere near there, and it should be ok....
09-07-2001, 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
Do you mean the one bolted on to the front? That is the MAP (boost) sensor I think.... The one further down sticking in to the tubing is the temp sensor. You can mount the MAP sensor anywhere near there, and it should be ok....
Do you mean the one bolted on to the front? That is the MAP (boost) sensor I think.... The one further down sticking in to the tubing is the temp sensor. You can mount the MAP sensor anywhere near there, and it should be ok....
09-08-2001, 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE
And removing the temp sensor and just letting it hang somewhere is alright?
And removing the temp sensor and just letting it hang somewhere is alright?
09-08-2001, 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
the temp sensor should be mounted somewhere in the intake path.... I don't know what would happen if it wasn't though...
the temp sensor should be mounted somewhere in the intake path.... I don't know what would happen if it wasn't though...
09-08-2001, 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE
Whre would the intake path be if the air scoop is removed?
Whre would the intake path be if the air scoop is removed?
09-08-2001, 01:20 PM
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Woah Woah Woah........There is NO MAP sensor on a maxima. There is a MAF sensor which is totally different. The temp sensor is your AIT sensor (Air Intake Temp). If you mount that sensor somewhere where there is good airflow then you trick the computer into thinking that there is cooler air outside. I removed mine and mounted it on the cross-brace near the grill. The cooler the car thinks the air is the more fuel it sends.
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09-08-2001, 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by Foglght
Woah Woah Woah........There is NO MAP sensor on a maxima. There is a MAF sensor which is totally different. The temp sensor is your AIT sensor (Air Intake Temp). If you mount that sensor somewhere where there is good airflow then you trick the computer into thinking that there is cooler air outside. I removed mine and mounted it on the cross-brace near the grill. The cooler the car thinks the air is the more fuel it sends.
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Woah Woah Woah........There is NO MAP sensor on a maxima. There is a MAF sensor which is totally different. The temp sensor is your AIT sensor (Air Intake Temp). If you mount that sensor somewhere where there is good airflow then you trick the computer into thinking that there is cooler air outside. I removed mine and mounted it on the cross-brace near the grill. The cooler the car thinks the air is the more fuel it sends.
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09-09-2001, 08:25 AM
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Aight school is in.
A Mass Air Flow sensor is an updated version from a MAP sensor. MAP sensors get their reading from Speed Density. The mass air flow meter (which is very sensitive) has 2 or more filiments inside the tube. These filaments are heated with about 2.0V on most cars(some are different). When you get more air it cools the filament telling the computer to add more fuel. That is why in turn you get a horsepower increase when you add an induction system on your car.
MAP Sensor = older car......not as accurate
MAF Sensor = Newer car........don't drop that sensor on the floor.
If you car is getting up there in miles and you have a MAF you can remove it and buy some carb and choke cleaner. Look into the MAF and hose down the filaments inside. After time those filaments get caked with junk and make your car idle rough and loose performance.
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A Mass Air Flow sensor is an updated version from a MAP sensor. MAP sensors get their reading from Speed Density. The mass air flow meter (which is very sensitive) has 2 or more filiments inside the tube. These filaments are heated with about 2.0V on most cars(some are different). When you get more air it cools the filament telling the computer to add more fuel. That is why in turn you get a horsepower increase when you add an induction system on your car.
MAP Sensor = older car......not as accurate
MAF Sensor = Newer car........don't drop that sensor on the floor.
If you car is getting up there in miles and you have a MAF you can remove it and buy some carb and choke cleaner. Look into the MAF and hose down the filaments inside. After time those filaments get caked with junk and make your car idle rough and loose performance.
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09-09-2001, 08:41 AM
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The MAF sensor sits in the intake tube just past the wire mesh grill before the TB. However, there is a 'BOOST' sensor that sits on the intake scoop. I think that is the MAP sensor. I will look into it, but I am pretty sure that it is a MAP sensor in addition to the MAF sensor.
09-09-2001, 05:27 PM
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I've never heard anyone call that a "boost" sensor. Yes, that sensor does exist but not directly in the intake path. It runs off of a vaccuum line and the sensor i believe is attached to the intake box via two screws. The vaccuum line runs up to the ugly box that is just before the TB. The air intake temp sensor is probably the one you are talking about. It sits in the intake path and measures.......hold your breath, air temp!
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09-09-2001, 09:47 PM
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Why the hell did Nissan even put that stupid MAF sensor on the Max. Honda's run just fine without them. It ****es me off because Maxima's can have much cooler looking intake tubes if it wasn't for that darn sensor. Can you shed any light on this?
Why the hell did Nissan even put that stupid MAF sensor on the Max. Honda's run just fine without them. It ****es me off because Maxima's can have much cooler looking intake tubes if it wasn't for that darn sensor. Can you shed any light on this?
09-09-2001, 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by cobymoby
Foglight
Why the hell did Nissan even put that stupid MAF sensor on the Max. Honda's run just fine without them. It ****es me off because Maxima's can have much cooler looking intake tubes if it wasn't for that darn sensor. Can you shed any light on this?
Foglight
Why the hell did Nissan even put that stupid MAF sensor on the Max. Honda's run just fine without them. It ****es me off because Maxima's can have much cooler looking intake tubes if it wasn't for that darn sensor. Can you shed any light on this?
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I just zippy tied mine down to something
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09-10-2001, 02:13 PM
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They put those sensors on because they are more accurate than the MAP sensors they replace. I haven't been under the hood of many hondas so i couldn't tell you wether they have a MAF or not. About 90% of newer cars have MAF sensors on them.
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09-10-2001, 04:24 PM
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DO NOT - DO NOT PUT CARB CLEAN IN YOUR MAF SENSOR - SORRY BUT IF YOU DONT WANT A TRIP TO THE DEALER - FOR THEM TO TELL YOU THAT THEY WONT WARRANTY IT BECAUSE THE CARB CLEANER IS SO STRONG IT MELTS THE FILM ON THE FILAMENT. HOWEVER YOU CAN CLEAN METAL OR ALUMINUM MAF SENSORS. NO TAKE THIS FROM SOMEONE WHO OWNES A REPAIR SHOP AND EXPERIENCE TO BACK IT UP - DONT WANT TO BAD MOUTH ANYONE OR MAKE ANY ONE LOOK BAD - BUT BY DOING THIS I COULD SAVE YOU ALOT MORE TIME AND MONEY OH AND SORRY BOUT THE CAPS - RUDY
09-10-2001, 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by C2MAX
DO NOT - DO NOT PUT CARB CLEAN IN YOUR MAF SENSOR - SORRY BUT IF YOU DONT WANT A TRIP TO THE DEALER - FOR THEM TO TELL YOU THAT THEY WONT WARRANTY IT BECAUSE THE CARB CLEANER IS SO STRONG IT MELTS THE FILM ON THE FILAMENT. HOWEVER YOU CAN CLEAN METAL OR ALUMINUM MAF SENSORS. NO TAKE THIS FROM SOMEONE WHO OWNES A REPAIR SHOP AND EXPERIENCE TO BACK IT UP - DONT WANT TO BAD MOUTH ANYONE OR MAKE ANY ONE LOOK BAD - BUT BY DOING THIS I COULD SAVE YOU ALOT MORE TIME AND MONEY OH AND SORRY BOUT THE CAPS - RUDY
DO NOT - DO NOT PUT CARB CLEAN IN YOUR MAF SENSOR - SORRY BUT IF YOU DONT WANT A TRIP TO THE DEALER - FOR THEM TO TELL YOU THAT THEY WONT WARRANTY IT BECAUSE THE CARB CLEANER IS SO STRONG IT MELTS THE FILM ON THE FILAMENT. HOWEVER YOU CAN CLEAN METAL OR ALUMINUM MAF SENSORS. NO TAKE THIS FROM SOMEONE WHO OWNES A REPAIR SHOP AND EXPERIENCE TO BACK IT UP - DONT WANT TO BAD MOUTH ANYONE OR MAKE ANY ONE LOOK BAD - BUT BY DOING THIS I COULD SAVE YOU ALOT MORE TIME AND MONEY OH AND SORRY BOUT THE CAPS - RUDY
09-10-2001, 09:35 PM
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Is there an ideal mounting location for optimum horsepower? My car feels much faster on cool mornings. I know if the engine runs rich all the time you are going to see a decrease in MPG, but i was wondering if it is possible to make it run rich.
09-11-2001, 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by Foglght
then why would ford motor company approve the cleaning of their MAF's with carb clean? And yes I am talking about the plastic ones used on many of their vehicles. I work at a dealership and thats what we use to clean them. and unless you get out the magnifying glass, how would anybody at a dealership be able to tell wether or not you melted off the supposed film on the filament. its hard enough to tell if they're dirty with the reg. eye.
then why would ford motor company approve the cleaning of their MAF's with carb clean? And yes I am talking about the plastic ones used on many of their vehicles. I work at a dealership and thats what we use to clean them. and unless you get out the magnifying glass, how would anybody at a dealership be able to tell wether or not you melted off the supposed film on the filament. its hard enough to tell if they're dirty with the reg. eye.
09-11-2001, 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by almason
Modern cars require INDUCTION CLEANER to perform the cleaning function carb cleaner used to. It looks, is packaged (spray can), marketed, and even smells (at least to me) like carb cleaner, but this cleaner contains a solvent that is safe for the plastic & electronic components in the newer induction systems. Its on the shelf of your Dealer AND your local auto parts -- NEVER use carb cleaner in a 5th Gen Max!
Modern cars require INDUCTION CLEANER to perform the cleaning function carb cleaner used to. It looks, is packaged (spray can), marketed, and even smells (at least to me) like carb cleaner, but this cleaner contains a solvent that is safe for the plastic & electronic components in the newer induction systems. Its on the shelf of your Dealer AND your local auto parts -- NEVER use carb cleaner in a 5th Gen Max!
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09-12-2001, 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by Foglght
then why would ford motor company approve the cleaning of their MAF's with carb clean? And yes I am talking about the plastic ones used on many of their vehicles. I work at a dealership and thats what we use to clean them. and unless you get out the magnifying glass, how would anybody at a dealership be able to tell wether or not you melted off the supposed film on the filament. its hard enough to tell if they're dirty with the reg. eye.
then why would ford motor company approve the cleaning of their MAF's with carb clean? And yes I am talking about the plastic ones used on many of their vehicles. I work at a dealership and thats what we use to clean them. and unless you get out the magnifying glass, how would anybody at a dealership be able to tell wether or not you melted off the supposed film on the filament. its hard enough to tell if they're dirty with the reg. eye.
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